Interesting Rick. For some reason the link doesen't work for me.

I don't think SUVs and jets were around back then. Yet 1645's weather was turbulent.

Hmmmm....makes you wonder whether we have any influence on these things.

Not only does this planet go thru cycles, but the whole universe has them.

Every 11,500 or so years, a mini ice age occurs, and we are closing in on the end of that 11,500 year cycle. What a coinkidinc.

Surely man in his folly ways raped the land and spouted smoke into the air, but compared to what the earth has gone thru and survived, many eons ago, leads me to believe this so called dillemma supposedly caused by man might just be a mis conception. It's blown way out of proportion.

In Earth's eye, we are just some annoying pest feeding off it's energy. Don't worry though, it'll do some house cleaning soon. It'll rid itself of the parasites, kick ass and take names....lol

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Yes have read that warming as we've seen it in recent years always proceeds an ice age. The planet heated and cooled long before humans inhabited it and will continue to go through those cycles long after we're extinct.

Sorry about the link Pac. It works if you copy/paste it into your browser.

cOPY AND PASTE WORKED rICK...THANX. i'LL HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT.....

Hmmm follow the money trail and see how puzzle pieces fit with the World Bank in the picture .... our sluggish economy (due to) not signing the Kyoto Protocol which would effectively tax us to pay for carbon credits the World Bank and its consortium get fat from.


" "INTERVIEW-World Bank carbon fund to pay for protecting forests
     Lesley Wroughton, 2007-10-12 (Friday), Reuters
     WASHINGTON, Oct 12 (Reuters) - A new fund being developed by the " World Bank would pay developing countries hundreds of millions of dollars for protecting and replanting tropical forests, which store huge amounts of carbon that causes climate change.

The Forest Carbon Partnership Facility (FCPF), announced by the World Bank on Thursday, will be part of U.N. climate change negotiations in Bali in December to shape a global agreement for when the Kyoto Protocol expires in 2012.

"A lot will depend on what the global agreement will be, but we think potentially this could yield a lot of money," Joelle Chassard, manager of the World Bank's carbon finance unit, told Reuters in an interview.

Chassard said the new facility would provide financial incentives to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from deforestation.

The facility has already attracted interest from more than a dozen developing countries including Indonesia, Brazil and several in Africa's Congo River basin. The bank expects to first test the mechanism in three to five countries.

Deforestation contributes 20 percent of total greenhouse gas emissions, more than all the world's cars, trucks, trains and airplanes combined. Environmental groups say that protecting tropical forests from cutting and burning is the most direct and fastest way to mitigate some of the impact of climate change.

By creating economic value for tropical forests, the facility can help developing countries such as Liberia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Guyana, Suriname and others generate new revenue for poverty alleviation while maintaining the natural benefits such as fresh water, food and medicines that the forests provide local populations.

Chassard described the new facility as a research and development tool to determine practical responses to the problem of deforestation. She said the facility would test mechanisms that could encourage governments to reduce deforestation.

Part of the testing involves providing participating countries with the means to prove they are reducing rates of deforestation.

"It will involve a lot of work on the ground with countries to establish both a physical and institutional infrastructure to demonstrate that they actually avoid deforestation," she said. "Countries will have to demonstrate that physically they have reduced the rate of deforestation."

Such a task will not be easy, Chassard acknowledged. It will require countries to determine the present state of their forests in order to measure future deforestation rates, she said. In addition, they have to establish the carbon content in forests where not all trees are equal storehouses, she added.

"Countries will need to have the means to ensure they are managing the rate of deforestation throughout the country. You don't want to preserve forests in one part of the country when another region is being cut significantly," she added.

The fund initially will have $300 million to finance emission reductions and help prepare countries with the necessary tools to monitor the forests.

The global carbon market grew to an estimated $30 billion last year, three times than in 2005.

Carbon funds were created under the Kyoto Protocol as a way to reduce carbon emissions by encouraging governments and the private sector to offset their climate footprint by purchasing carbon credits.

Separately, the World Bank also announced the Carbon Partnership Facility, which will purchase carbon credits from a pool of emission reduction programs instead of the current system of one project at a time.

The facility is expected to be used in power sector development, energy efficiency, gas flaring, transport, and urban development.

"The CPF is significant because instead of purchasing greenhouse gas emission reductions from one project at a time, say reducing methane emissions from a landfill, we will be able to work on 10 projects simultaneously across a country or a region," said Katherine Sierra, World Bank vice president for sustainable development.

"We will also be able to purchase greenhouse gas emissions far beyond 2012, which will help to remove some of the uncertainty currently surrounding the post-Kyoto Protocol era," she added. "

© Reuters 2006 "

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Konane, it is the money trail that bothers me most and is the agenda that obscures the truth on the matter. Our planet is going through major changes at this time and it has nothing to do with man. The arctic was once a tropical climate as proven by plant fossils from the region. As the earth's "wobble" corrects itself the arctic will become tropical again and new ice caps will form elsewhere. There are forces greater than man at work here.

The bottom line is we cannot let the UN or any other world body tax US citizens for any reason whatsoever, no matter how noble sounding the cause. We are members of the world, not its subjects to be governed and taxed. Once we give them the right to tax us then they own us and one world government becomes a reality. Global warming is their "foot in the door".

One world government is already a reality and the buck stops literally with the World Bank. Global warming is a scare tactic of half-truth used for the purpose of controlling the herd.

Admit it. You were all happier *before* you took the red pill. :-)