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ObamaCare Passed in Stimulus Bill


A wealth of info here by Devvy Kidd with links to the sources. It's time to scream and  march in the streets. This is it!!! Notice France. The French are not afraid of their govt and they are constantly protesting!! We have to keep up the preasure on these criminals in office. Once a freedom is lost it's not likely to get it back short of bloody revolution. What happens is the govt backs off when the ppl scream, but then they start up again. So we can't rest!!

Call your congress critters and do what you can to spread the word. Take the advice of Devvy Kidd here:

THIS SHOULD BE THE BIGGEST STORY ON MAIN STREAM NEWS but no, they have been nuetralized!!



Entry #110


justxploringComment by justxploring - August 19, 2009, 11:44 pm
When trying to pass a health reform bill to provide those of us with long term or pre-existing illnesses with affordable coverage becomes a loss of freedom, then I'll march with you. Until that time, the revolution should be against companies that make huge profits while families can't protect their loved ones. Shame on anyone who is falling for the propaganda about death panels, covering illegals and paying for abortions. The only reason there hasn't been reform sooner is that Congress is owned by the lobbyists.

Why would I even support a Public Option (note the word "option") since I survive by selling health insurance? It's because I've had to tell people who want to pay "you've been declined" and then offer them a crappy policy that will force them to claim bankruptcy should they be stricken with cancer or another life threatening illness. If simple insurance rules would change this, then why hasn't it been done and why have premiums increased each year while benefits get worse? I already know what your answer is, so why should I bother?

Ronald Reagan said Medicare would destroy this country. He fought against our social security program. Do you support these government run programs? Do you know how many billions the Medicare Advantage and Medicare Drug programs approved in 2003 have cost taxpayers? Where was the outrage then? When all the people collecting Social Security and Medicare which is paid for by my taxes give it up, I might be more willing to talk.

Fact: The United States is the only industrialized nation that does not guarantee access to health care as a right of citizenship. Fact: The United States spends at least 40% more per capita on health care than any country with universal health care. Fact: Approx 65% of all bankruptcies filed at due to medical bills and 75% of people who file HAD insurance when they got sick. Our country ranks at the very bottom in infant mortality and life expectancy. It is mind boggling that people are talking about "bloody revolutions" and comparing a democratically elected president to a mad dictator who ordered the genocide of millions when he is trying to pass a bill that he campaigned on. The truth is that you're still angry that Obama won the election and every single thing he does will always be criticized. Sen DeMint spoke volumes when he stated "If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him."   

One thing we do agree on is that we need to be strong and not rest.
TigerAngelComment by TigerAngel - August 20, 2009, 1:18 am
@justx Thanx for the typing. Sounds like you did not bother to read the article. Let me ask you one question: Do you think there is any evil whatsoever in the world?
konaneComment by konane - August 20, 2009, 8:59 am
From TigerAngel's blog entry http://www.lotterypost.com/blogentry/32416/viewcomments

Line and page referenced below, try reading.

Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit books of ALL EMPLOYERS WHO SELF-INSURE!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE which decides what treatments & benefits you get.
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Govt WILL RESTRICT ENROLLMENT of Special Needs people.
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC Benefits for you.
PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC WILL BE PROVIDED TO ALL NON-US CITIZENS, illegal or otherwise.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill- ALL NON-RESIDENT ALIENS will be exempt from individual taxes. (Resident Americans will pay)
Pg 58 HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals
finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued.
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your bank accounts for electronic funds transfer, no choice.
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating an HC EXCHANGE to bring private HC plans under Govt control.
PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private HC plans in the Exchange.
PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs. for of Benefit Levels for Plans.
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.
pg 124 Lines 24-25 HC No company can sue Government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Government Monopoly.
pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill -DOCTORS/ AMA - The Govt will tell you what your salary will be TAX.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 All Employers MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer with payroll 400k & above, who does not provide public option, pays 8% tax on all payroll.
pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll btw 251k & 400k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to the Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 195 HC Bill -officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances & personal records.
PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax".
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill- Govt WILL REDUCE PHYSICIAN SERVICES for Medicaid Seniors, and low income people.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same
PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consultations. (seniors)
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!
PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.
PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "adv. care planning consult" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.
PG 429 Lines 10-12 "adv. care consultation" may include an ORDER FOR END OF LIFE plans. AN "ORDER" from the GOVERNMENT on when your life ends.
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life. "


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