Tell the "greens" to take a hike, cut red tape and bureaucracy and begin drilling in ANWAR and the eastern Gulf around Florida where I understand there are considerable oil reserves.

It's time to get practical and quit allowing whiners and snivelers to block progress. Whiners and snivelers were not the of this nation but they've been allowed to run things for far too long when in fact they don't have enough rational street level common sense to cross the street .... only posture, pout and scream for their mama to come fix their ouchie.

correction ..... Whiners and snivelers were not the BUILDERS of this nation but they've .....

I agree with most of what you say, Konane.

But meanwhile, declare a war on hair dryers and air conditioners, similar to the War on Drugs. Mandatory penalties for possession and possession with intent to sell.

Take those prisoners out of the prisons and put them to work building houses and shelters, planting crops ... some are good at crops.

Bring the troops home from the war over non-existent weapons of mass destruction and put the resources devoted to that war, every cent, to photovoltaic technology and wind generator technology.

Demand that the power companies implement that technology in the same way DOT demanded automobile manufacturers implement fuel saving technology in automobiles, while DEMANDING that Americans reduce power consumption some percentage every year until we are energy independent.

Allocate real dollars to research on cold fusion technology.

Yeah, and also drill oil wells where it can be done.

But above all, look to the future and cease this yammering about what this president and this government ought to have done to save New Orleans.

Jack

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Get the Interstate Commerce Commission out of the business of setting interstate shipping rates so the railroads can afford to begin competing with truck transport and afford to upgrade their infrastructure. Get those trucks off the highways so we don't have to devote a buzzillion tons or so of heavy crude annually to maintaining our US highways to repair the damage caused by cross-country trucking.

Jack

And quit whining and scapegoating the greens. They don't use any more electricity than you do. They didn't create this problem. We did, including them.

Jack

While we're at it, dismantle the Ralph Naderisms on vehicles weighing less than 1000 pounds to allow the licensing of light vehicles such as the Kawasaki Mule for commuters. Vehicles with great gas mileage, low cost, capable of carrying a driver and three passengers to and from work at 50 miles an hour on city streets to reduce fuel consumption, relieve traffic congestion, and create an opening for an entirely new generation of American automobiles.

Jack

If every hair-dryer, air conditioner and big screen television set burned out from a power surge tonight, while concurrently every ton of cross-country shipping when by rail instead of truck the country would be energy independent tomorrow morning.

If photovoltaic and wind energy found widespread use even at the currentl level of technology and commuter passenger cars of the sort I've described were allowed and encouraged we'd be in a position to be an exporter of fuel, rather than an importer a year from now.

Jack

Reason for saying to tell the greens to take a hike. A quick read will show green alliances with Marxist organizatioins, funding by foundations which have funded organizations known to be terrorist sponsors.

Can provide a dump truck more information on the subject.

Greens are no longer what they began as so have lost their war by joining with the other side.

Plant trees.   

......."Funding the Green/Red Coalition


In the 1930s, the suppression of Germany's Communist Party created a unique new hybrid, the "beefsteak Nazi": brown on the outside, Red on the inside. The beefsteak Nazi was a Marxist who believed his economic theories were close enough to those of the National Socialist Party that he could safely jump ship. The modern equivalent is the Red environmentalist. Having been rebuffed by 70 years of history, Marxist ideologues have not given up the dream; in addition to their influence on college campuses, they have found new vitality as the Green Left has accepted central tenets of their platform. Today, the Green/Red coalition yokes sincere (if misled) environmentalists and those seeking socialism for its own sake - not to mention the increasing number of people, like David Brower, who straddle both movements. Conservation, a positive reaction to the excesses of Gilded Age capitalism whose chief proponent was a Republican president, has since become the convenient cover for advancing a creeping socialist economic model. Teresa Heinz Kerry's support for the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) offers an excellent example.



The Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund has accepted the most extreme anti-capitalist position in its quest to create an environmental Shangri-la. It has also recruited and trained its members to engage in partisan politics. The Howard Heinz Endowment's explicit instructions, its "legally binding contract," dedicated $37,000 to "legal and technical support to grassroots organizations on environmental issues" and another $45,00 to the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund's "grassroots litigation support plan for 2002." Again we see Heinz money being filtered through one organization to aid unnamed "grassroots organizations." CELDF wrote a large, downloadable file instructing people how to run a political campaign as a member of the Green Party. According to the environmentalists' website, "CELDF has drafted these manuals to assist grassroots environmental and community groups."[15]



Sharing David Brower's "solidarity environmentalism," the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund website links to the book Talking About a Revolution, a collection of 14 interviews with radical leftists like Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich, bell hooks [sic.], Howard Zinn, Winona LaDuke, Michael Albert, Peter Kwong, Manning Marable, and Urvashi Vaid.[16]



CELDF's professed goal is "to eliminate corporate rights";[17] its co-founder even wrote a legal brief petitioning the nation's courts to strip corporations of their constitutional legal protections.[18] CELDF supports a "Democracy School" run by the Boston-based "Center for Democracy and the Constitution."[19] Defense Fund co-founder Thomas Linzey will teach at the school. The Center for Democracy and the Constitution's motto is "working to end corporate rights that destroy the Earth, our future and the hope of democracy." Its "Corporate Constitutional Rights Primer" states:



Today the agents perpetuating these violations of our inalienable rights are no longer monarchs, they are large corporations. [sic.] These legal fictions, in principle granted existence only to benefit the public good, have taken over our public institutions, our environment, our government, even our daily thoughts and worldview.



Corporations control "our daily thoughts"? There's nothing like reasoned debate with the left. Among other things, this document assures us, modern corporations "avoid taxation and regulation."[20] Tell Bill Gates he's exempt from federal taxes, regulations and lawsuits. In 1996, the Code of Federal Regulation ran 124,156 pages spanning 50 volumes.[21] On the contrary, the only tax-exempt entities seeking to shape our "worldview" are organizations like the Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund and Teresa Heinz Kerry's Heinz Endowments.



CELDF is not the only such organization receiving tax-exempt foundation cash. The Vira I. Heinz Endowment assisted the Pennsylvania Environmental Council with $299,000 and furnished an additional $47,000 to the Ohio Environmental Council, this last designated to tamper with "Ohio's utility deregulation policy" in an effort to persuade Ohio to regulate its policy for the good of Pennsylvania. In 2002, this endowment allocated $100,000 to the group 10,000 Friends of Pennsylvania to support "advocacy" for anti-business "Smart Growth" environmentalist policies. At the behest of Heinz Environmental Award winner Florence Robinson, Teresa Heinz Kerry provided $10,000 to the Louisiana Environmental Action Network. LEAN's "platform," adopted in 1995, calls on the state government to "Implement an executive order to address Environmental Racism in the state of Louisiana."[22]



It is clear that Teresa Heinz Kerry's philanthropic interest is promoting (radical) Green politics. Taking into consideration the size, scope and intent of these environmentalist grants, it is clear that political agitation was the foreseeable, desired effect of Teresa Heinz Kerry's grantmaking. Whether she considered the advantage this would confer upon her husband before making the grants, or whether she's simply an ideologically driven patron of bad policy based on bad science one can only guess. Motivation means little in politics; effects are what count, and her blank check to the radical greens is directed against the economic system on which this nation is based, the only economic system compatible with human freedom. It is telling that the fall of the Berlin Wall in the late 1980s tore the veil off the carefully constructed Soviet myth, revealing that the most economically regulated societies on earth were also the most ecologically degraded. No good can come of reviving their failures. No infusion of tax-exempt, capitalist cash will sweeten their noxious dreams.".......

http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/readarticle.asp?ID=15144

Thanks konane:

I wasn't saying greens are good. I don't much care for them, myself, though I'm an environmental sort of hombre. I've known a lot of greens and generally don't like them.

I'm merely saying they aren't to blame, except maybe for help shut down all the nuclear power plants in this country, which is a piece of why we're in this fix.

Jack

The greens are not about the environment anymore. Their altruistic movement has been commandeered by Marxist minded people is to bring to a grinding halt the US economy so that third world dictatorships and other Marxist governments of other nations can compete with capitalism. Can't be done in the real world so they have to create smoke and mirrors enabled by the Marxist main stream media to shove their lame ideas in every orifice we have. Between the greens and equally Marxist labor unions no wonder American industry packed up and went to more work friendly countries.

We have clear-cutting around this area for development with replanting of smaller trees. We also have a totally lame Atlanta tree ordinance where one of their unqualified "arborists" has to come out to deliver last rites on a dead and dangerous tree, then have to go through an expen$$$$ive permitting and approval proce$$$$ to be able to prevent it from falling on your neighbor's child and being wiped out from liability claims and litigation resulting from it. It's also more expen$$$$ive if you cut without all the red tape and get fined. It's been on tv a couple of times here but the City Council sees $$$$$$ and won't change unless the state passes a law making them.

I'm an environmentalist who tries to adhere to basics of the original movement ... common sense stuff like don't pollute, plant trees, avoid over use of insecticides, herbicides, commercial fertilizers, use mulch to conserve water. Eat tofu whenever possible. ;D

I just got back from Mexico. I'll continue this later. Noticed a sign, Adopt a Highway.... Luna County Green Party has a section of road between Palomas and Deming. I suppose they're doing some things, anyway.
Thanks for the comment. J