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Latest Videos of Free Gaza Flotilla

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This site has CNN videos and interview videos:

http://witnessgaza.com/

this site has constant updates of what is happening now. Says the last 2 ships sailed for Gaza have been sabatoged at sea.

http://www.freegaza.org/index.php

 

There were 16 U.S. citizens on the flotilla ships:

US Citizen Shot 4 times in the head on ship, a teenager: article here:

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0603/citizen-killed-flotilla-reportedly-shot-times-head/

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1.
ToddComment by Todd - June 3, 2010, 6:24 pm
Man oh man I can't stand propoganda like that.

First of all, the blockade was NOT illegal. It is 100% legal, according to international law -- which dates back to 1907, and was most recently updated in 1994.

Secondly, the "flotilla" was NOT intended to bring relief supplies. Even the George Soros funded Media Matters made the statement today that it was (and still is) 100% dedicated to breaking the blockade, with the delivery of relief supplies being incedental to the cause of breaking the blockade. Saying that it was about relief supplies is just plain ignorant.

The FACT is that the Israelis properly handled the situation, and LEGALLY stopped the vessels. When the vessels ignored their warnings and were therefore boarded, the people on the vessels ATTACKED the Israelis.

No, they were not defending themselves, because that implies that they were attacked. They were NOT attacked, and they did the attacking.

Those are the facts, and the media and all the Socialist/progressives around the country are hopping right on board with the oh-so-predictable "Israel is the bad guy" thing.

Note that I am NOT defending Israel. My only intention here is to try to add the relevant FACTS to counter-act the collection of extremely biased and factually-incorrect videos that are posted on those anti-Israel web sites.

I am not saying that Israel had the proper reaction to anything. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't, but anyone jumping to the immediate conclusion that they are "wrong" or "evil" is just showing their personal bias, because the details around the shootings are not yet known in detail. The only things for sure are some broad facts like I have mentioned.

I must say also that as an American who lives in a free society, I do tend to give Israel the benefit of the doubt, because they are a tiny little country surrounding by their enemies -- and more importantly, they are the only Democracy in the Middle East. In fact, the countries surrouding them have some of the most oppressive governments in the world, and certainly treat their woman worse than anywhere else.

I do not give the benefit of the doubt to a country that says it is OK for a man to murder a woman as long as it is an "honor killing". Or a country the bans all practice of religions except Islam. Or a country that executes women by stoning them to death for being seen alone in public with a non-relative male.

No, I think I'll give the benefit of the doubt to the people who live on one tiny parcel of land that sits in the middle of that horror show, who have a viabrant democracy, and who allow their woman all the rights and privledges that males get.

Are they perfect? Of course not, neither are we. (Look who WE put in charge.) But they're the best we've got over there. I'm not sure joining the worldwide dog-pile onto Israel is such a good idea.
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TigerAngelComment by TigerAngel - June 3, 2010, 7:48 pm
First of all, how many videos did you watch or articles did you read before discounting it as all propoganda? First hand accounts from passengers is what it is. Since they were jailed and or deported or in a hospital somewhere or lying dead, the Israeli propaganda machine had a 48 hour head start on the eyewitnesses testimonies. Heck, Hillary announced Israel should investigate itself. The UN has stated that Gaza is only getting 25% of the supplies it needs. The World Health Organization puts out reports continually showing the declining health of the people of Gaza. The Free Gaza Movement is composed of people from all over the world trying to get humanitarian aid to the Palestinians because goverments have failed to act. It's an absurd argument that they can't have paper, pencils, medicines, medical equipment, enough food, building materials because it might be used for weapons. Gaza is an open air prison camp of one and one half million people. Let me emphisize-----> Palestinians are people. Their treatment is worse than the aparthide in South Africa was. The Israelis have not disputed the fact the ships were in international waters. It's against international law to attack a civilian ship in peace time in international waters plain and simple. Israel has commited another crime. But they are so good at making themselves the victim a lot of brain washed ppl around the world can't see it or don't want to see it. Fortunately, a lot of people around the world now do see it. The blockade of a country to keep humanitarian aid out is condemned by the UN. Running the blockade has been likened to Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat on the bus to a white man.

Bringing up the Muslim countries surrounding Israel and their culture portrayed as inferior sounds like the same position Isael has as justification for genocide and the ongoing giant land grab (see a map called "Greater Israel") the US is mixed up in. It's hard to imagine you really hold that view. Did you know that Muslims and Jews have lived peacefully along side eachother like they do right now in Iran, for thousands of years?

How many more millions of people have to die before Israel "feels safe" and is satisfied with it's monstrous conquests?
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ToddComment by Todd - June 3, 2010, 8:42 pm
First of all, you're wrong about the video. The first video released was from the people on the ships. The first Israeli video was not released for several more hours. Who started the propaganda war?

I don't call justifying murder of women "culture".

And in case you haven't seen a map, there is nothing "giant" about Israel. Also, being someone who actually learns about historical events before passing judgement, I know that israel only "grabbed" land from countries that were using it to attack them. They gave most of it back.

The Palestinians are originally from Lebanon, so technically that is who they should be trying to reclaim their land from, but the Israelis are more convenient for them, because they are hated by everyone in the region
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TigerAngelComment by TigerAngel - June 3, 2010, 8:59 pm
Here is the OFFICIAL list of ‘contraband’ not allowed into Gaza.
- sage
- cardamom
- cumin
- coriander
- ginger
- jam
- halva
- vinegar
- nutmeg
- chocolate
- fruit preserves
- seeds and nuts
- biscuits and sweets
- potato chips
- gas for soft drinks
- dried fruit
- fresh meat
- plaster
- tar
- wood for construction
- cement
- iron
- glucose
- industrial salt
- plastic/glass/metal containers
- industrial margarine
- tarpaulin sheets for huts
- fabric (for clothing)
- flavor and smell enhancers
- fishing rods
- various fishing nets
- buoys
- ropes for fishing
- nylon nets for greenhouses
- hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries
- spare parts for tractors
- dairies for cowsheds
- irrigation pipe systems
- ropes to tie greenhouses
- planters for saplings
- heaters for chicken farms
- musical instruments
- size A4 paper
- writing implements
- notebooks
- newspapers
- toys
- razors
- sewing machines and spare parts
- heaters
- horses
- donkeys
- goats
- cattle
- chicks

5.
time*treatComment by time*treat - June 3, 2010, 9:23 pm
Hmm, seems "paintball" guns can fire actual bullets. :-/
TigerAngel, do you have a link to that list of banned items?
6.
TigerAngelComment by TigerAngel - June 3, 2010, 11:33 pm
time*treat, I got it off someones comments at the end of an article, now I forget which article. But I bet a search in the box would turn it up.
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TigerAngelComment by TigerAngel - June 3, 2010, 11:54 pm
Found this link time*treat. Looks like same list but titled a partial list. That makes sense since it leaves out books and music and medical stuff. http://thekickinghorse.wordpress.com/2010/06/02/partial-list-of-banned-items-to-gaza-strip/
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time*treatComment by time*treat - June 4, 2010, 1:59 pm
Thanks, TA.
9.
Comment by GASMETERGUY - June 4, 2010, 8:55 pm
Every nation on the face of this earth has a right to defend itself. To think otherwise is inconsistent with international law and common sense. We may not agree with what tactics a nation may employ for that defense but to condemn any nation for upholding their integrity is nothing short of pure prejudice.
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Comment by GASMETERGUY - June 4, 2010, 9:03 pm


Krauthammer: Those troublesome Jews

by Charles Krauthammer
Friday, June 4, 2010

The world is outraged at Israel's blockade of Gaza. Turkey denounces its illegality, inhumanity, barbarity, etc. The usual U.N. suspects, Third World and European, join in. The Obama administration dithers.

But as Leslie Gelb, former president of the Council on Foreign Relations, writes, the blockade is not just perfectly rational, it is perfectly legal. Gaza under Hamas is a self-declared enemy of Israel — a declaration backed up by more than 4,000 rockets fired at Israeli civilian territory. Yet having pledged itself to unceasing belligerency, Hamas claims victimhood when Israel imposes a blockade to prevent Hamas from arming itself with still more rockets.

In World War II, with full international legality, the United States blockaded Germany and Japan. And during the October 1962 missile crisis, we blockaded ("quarantined") Cuba. Arms-bearing Russian ships headed to Cuba turned back because the Soviets knew that the U.S. Navy would either board them or sink them. Yet Israel is accused of international criminality for doing precisely what John Kennedy did: impose a naval blockade to prevent a hostile state from acquiring lethal weaponry.

Oh, but weren't the Gaza-bound ships on a mission of humanitarian relief? No. Otherwise they would have accepted Israel's offer to bring their supplies to an Israeli port, be inspected for military materiel and have the rest trucked by Israel into Gaza — as every week 10,000 tons of food, medicine and other humanitarian supplies are sent by Israel to Gaza.

Why was the offer refused? Because, as organizer Greta Berlin admitted, the flotilla was not about humanitarian relief but about breaking the blockade, i.e., ending Israel's inspection regime, which would mean unlimited shipping into Gaza and thus the unlimited arming of Hamas.

Israel has already twice intercepted ships laden with Iranian arms destined for Hezbollah and Gaza. What country would allow that?

But even more important, why did Israel even have to resort to blockade? Because, blockade is Israel's fallback as the world systematically de-legitimizes its traditional ways of defending itself — forward and active defense.

(1) Forward defense: As a small, densely populated country surrounded by hostile states, Israel had, for its first half-century, adopted forward defense — fighting wars on enemy territory (such as the Sinai and Golan Heights) rather than its own.

Where possible (Sinai, for example) Israel has traded territory for peace. But where peace offers were refused, Israel retained the territory as a protective buffer zone. Thus Israel retained a small strip of southern Lebanon to protect the villages of northern Israel. And it took many losses in Gaza, rather than expose Israeli border towns to Palestinian terror attacks. It is for the same reason America wages a grinding war in Afghanistan: You fight them there, so you don't have to fight them here.

But under overwhelming outside pressure, Israel gave it up. The Israelis were told the occupations were not just illegal but at the root of the anti-Israel insurgencies — and therefore withdrawal, by removing the cause, would bring peace.

Land for peace. Remember? Well, during the past decade, Israel gave the land — evacuating South Lebanon in 2000 and Gaza in 2005. What did it get? An intensification of belligerency, heavy militarization of the enemy side, multiple kidnappings, cross-border attacks and, from Gaza, years of unrelenting rocket attack.

(2) Active defense: Israel then had to switch to active defense — military action to disrupt, dismantle and defeat (to borrow President Obama's description of our campaign against the Taliban and al-Qaeda) the newly armed terrorist mini-states established in southern Lebanon and Gaza after Israel withdrew.

The result? The Lebanon war of 2006 and Gaza operation of 2008-09. They were met with yet another avalanche of opprobrium and calumny by the same international community that had demanded the land-for-peace Israeli withdrawals in the first place. Worse, the U.N. Goldstone report, which essentially criminalized Israel's defensive operation in Gaza while whitewashing the casus belli — the preceding and unprovoked Hamas rocket war — effectively de-legitimized any active Israeli defense against its self-declared terror enemies.

(3) Passive defense: Without forward or active defense, Israel is left with but the most passive and benign of all defenses — a blockade to simply prevent enemy rearmament. Yet, as we speak, this too is headed for international de-legitimation. Even the United States is now moving toward having it abolished.

But, if none of these is permissible, what's left?

Ah, but that's the point. It's the point understood by the blockade-busting flotilla of useful idiots and terror sympathizers, by the Turkish front organization that funded it, by the automatic anti-Israel Third World chorus at the United Nations, and by the supine Europeans who've had quite enough of the Jewish problem.

What's left? Nothing. The whole point of this relentless international campaign is to deprive Israel of any legitimate form of self-defense. Why, just last week, the Obama administration joined the jackals, and reversed four decades of U.S. practice, by signing onto a consensus document that singles out Israel's possession of nuclear weapons — thus de-legitimizing Israel's very last line of defense: deterrence.

The world is tired of these troublesome Jews, 6 million — that number again — hard by the Mediterranean, refusing every invitation to national suicide. For which they are relentlessly demonized, ghettoized and constrained from defending themselves, even as the more committed anti-Zionists — Iranian in particular — openly prepare a more final solution.

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