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Advice Needed...


Last Edited: February 3, 2011, 5:44 pm

During my recent job searching and application completion i have come across unusual statements that the companies want you to sign your rights away, or comply with, like if you don't pass a drug test the employee must pay the test fee, or if you do not remain employed for at least 90 day's you are charged a fee that will be deducted from you last paycheck for any reason, even layoff due to insufficient work flow. 

I have no issue with the above, but why would i waive my rights? I know jobs are hard to come by these days and i have all the skills for this job and then some. I would be an asset to the company. I just would like to know if i should waive my rights.

The one that's got me today is this.. "I hereby waive any right under the Bullard-Plawecki Right to Know Act, 1978 PA 397 or similar Federal or State statue. "

Link below to the PA 397 of 1978, it's only 4 pages and page 1 is mostly definition. Your feedback is appreciated.


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sully16Comment by sully16 - February 3, 2011, 7:25 pm
Bob I don't think they can charge you fees unless you agree to it, my company drug tests every potential employee, some fail and are excused, but they don't pay for the testing.
inittowinComment by inittowin - February 3, 2011, 7:29 pm
It is only because this country is run by lawyers and insurance companies!
They are only worried about covering their azz!

Best of luck in your job search!
CutlassBobComment by CutlassBob - February 3, 2011, 7:48 pm
In-order to be considered for employment you must sign and agree to what i wrote above.
I just don't want to give my rights away, the goverment is taking them fast enough. I have no problem passing any test they want to give me.

I agree inittowin,   lawyers are writing the application's for employment now. This protect's the employers insurance company.

The PA 397 above deals with personel file the company has on you and your right as an employee to request to view it up to twice a year. Also has to deal with the info collected on the employee if you become under investigation and the disclosure process to the employee or should i say X employee.

Companies do seem to cover their azz every chance they get. It just get tuffer and tuffer for the employee to understand their rights.

Maybe 397 is tomorrows 3 digit :), 1978 the 4.
JAP69Comment by JAP69 - February 3, 2011, 8:50 pm
The one that's got me today is this.. "I hereby waive any right under the Bullard-Plawecki Right to Know Act, 1978 PA 397 or similar Federal or State statue. "
I would call the appropiate state agency that could answer why it is necessary to waive your rights.

JAP69Comment by JAP69 - February 3, 2011, 8:57 pm
" if you do not remain employed for at least 90 day's you are charged a fee "
I have never heard of being charged a fee. I would want it specified how much the fee would be. Just asking that question could put your application for employment in jeopardy.
I would ask the state agency about that too.
Comment by GASMETERGUY - February 3, 2011, 9:39 pm
You can thank lawyers like John Edwards for things like this. There are people out there who apply for jobs knowing full well they are not qualified. Then, when they are not hired, run to a lawyer and file a discrimination suit. As the cost of defending themselves in court is usually more expensive than just paying the aggrieved off, they pay off.
To avoid this situation, prospective employees now must sign away their rights as far as the company is concerned. Drug testing is just one of the rights companies look for reimbursement. Many people will willingly take the drug test knowing full well they could not pass.
CutlassBobComment by CutlassBob - February 3, 2011, 9:55 pm
Hey JAP69, Here it is word for word with company name removed to protect the innocent, HaHaHa...
Any employee failing to remain employed by "Blankedy Blank Inc." for a period of 90 days; for whatever reason of circumstance including layoff will be liable for a $125.00 physical and administration fee. This amount will be deducted from any monies owed to the employee upon termination. Should monies owed the employee not cover the $125.00 fee, the company reserves the right to recover the balance by whatever means available under Michigan Law.
Personally i do not understand why any company would need this statement.
jarasanComment by jarasan - February 3, 2011, 10:54 pm
Did the potus take a pi$$ test? Gadam ba$tards! Hypocrite SOBS. Give the lawyers and judges Pi$$ tests.
Rick GComment by Rick G - February 4, 2011, 9:41 am
Choose your battles, Bob. Sometimes we have to play the game in order to survive. I would still recommend self-employment, but I understand that's not always an option.
CutlassBobComment by CutlassBob - February 4, 2011, 7:06 pm
BIG thx to Jarasan, got a laugh to start my Friday!!

I agree RICK, still trying to get a business going, i've had a few jobs, but far in-between. Making the bills, using up my savings slowly but surely.

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