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Liberty Dollar creator convicted



Note the extensive use of NLP -- or, as I call it "complete and utter biased bull$#!^".

The leader of a group that marketed a fake currency called Liberty Dollars in the Asheville area and elsewhere has been found guilty by a federal jury of conspiracy against the government in a case of “domestic terrorism.”
Bernard von NotHaus was convicted Friday at the conclusion of an eight-day trial in U.S. District Court in Statesville. The jury deliberated less than two hours, according to the Department of Justice.

“Attempts to undermine the legitimate currency of this country are simply a unique form of domestic terrorism,” U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins said. “While these forms of anti-government activities do not involve violence, they are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the economic stability of this country.”

The case was investigated by the FBI, Buncombe County Sheriff’s Office and U.S. Secret Service with help from the U.S. Mint.

“We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government,” Tompkins said.

Now as far as I can tell, there are no charges pending against the creators of Richours, BerkShares, Burlington Bread, Bay Bucks, or Ithaca Hours (this list could get long). Why might that be? Does being only paper make them more "legitimate"?
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Rick GComment by Rick G - March 23, 2011, 10:50 am
“We are determined to meet these threats through infiltration, disruption and dismantling of organizations which seek to challenge the legitimacy of our democratic form of government,” Tompkins said.

Since when is the Federal Reserve legitimate and how does making silver rounds challenge the legitimacy of "democratic" govt?

What she's saying is they will infiltrate, disrupt and dismantle organizations who disagree with the supposedly legitimate "democratic" form of govt. It's an oxymoron.

Reminder to Ms. Tomkins..."I pledge allegiance to the flag and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands..." Note that we don't say 'democracy'.
ToddComment by Todd - March 23, 2011, 2:37 pm
@Rick G - How true. Most Americans probably think "Republic" has something to do with Republicans. They go around saying "We're a democracy!" How dopey.

Earth to U.S. citizens: We are a democratic republic.

That means we are a republic in which the representatives are elected.

Note that "democratic republic" does not make us a "democracy" any more than a "big shoe" would be a "big".
Boney526Comment by Boney526 - March 23, 2011, 6:57 pm
It's ridiculous. This is like saying "competition is against Democracy" or "We are a Democratic country, and anyone who criticizes or questions the government should be locked up. Democracy."

Of course, he didn't even do that. In fact, under the Constitution, the only entities forbidden to Mint coin/Legal Tender is the various states. So, it is Constitutional to make an alternate currency - and there are plenty around the US. Why this guy got in trouble? Probably b/c his was (I believe) silver. I mean, the Liberty Dollar was also actually in use in certain areas of the Country.

Who would think, when competition starts, that the legal monopoly would try to stop it?? Of course the government would try to destroy any stable competition - because people would wake up and realize that competitive currency is a good thing which would make our markets more stable.
Boney526Comment by Boney526 - March 28, 2011, 10:48 pm
Oooppssss, totally read the section wrong. States are only allowed to mint gold/silver coins. Utah is looking to start minting it's own gold currency.


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