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You wanna talk about wasting tax payer money?
"To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;"
I mean, really only the first sentence was necessary. Just because The President was designated Commander in Chief, that was never meant as a free pass to use the military as he pleases.
The Authorization of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 1991 was passed by the 102nd Congress, in which both houses of Congress were controlled by Democrats. "Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq" of 2002 was passed by the 107th, in which the Senate was split and the House under control of the Republican Party.
Seems much less partisan the more you look at it, especially considering the escalating of warfare and airstrikes the current administration has gone through with in Yemen, Libya, Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Bush's War - however misguided - wasn't illegal, because Congress authorized it in 2002.
But I suppose if you say that the President doesn't need congress to take the country to war under the Constitution, if you say so, regardless of what the Constitution says.
I mean, in practice, we often ignore it, it's unacceptable that the commonly held belief is what you said, even though the Constitution says the exact opposite.
It was through resolution hr77 through the United nations security council that we went to war. At any rate, I already wrote 3 times that Congress hasn't declared war with any nation since 1941. How many times do I have to write this? If that's true, then HOW THE EFF DID CONGRESS DECLARE WAR WITH IRAQ?......GOT IT?...HOLY COW!!!
That's why I said in practice we ignore it, I study history all of the time. You wrote that within the Constitution, the President has authority to bring the country to war, which is untrue - the Constitution clearly says the opposite, even if we've ignored that for a very long time, since World War II, really.
EG: You said that Sully was wrong in her assertion that the Congress' that declared War were controlled by the Democrats, I looked up the demographics those two congress' and one WAS controlled by democrats, one was split in the Senate, and the house was Republican.
So instead of clearing yourself up, which actually would have been easy, because 32 percent of the Democrats in those congresses voted against War, you cited my age and called me a know it all.
Ok buddy, that's some good old fashioned life experience working for you. How about you stop acting so rude, if you post something that's incorrect, like the Constitutional limits on War Power, somebody is going to call it out - you shouldn't react in a manner than makes you look like a as immature as a child.
You have a lot to learn...
But I also disagree with how this current administration has handled itself. This administration has used our military without seeking congressional approval, and has ramped up strikes in Yemen and Pakistan with little to no discussion.
As far as my paragraph where I wrote about Sully's assertion - it was a typo, I meant that one of the two Congress' that authorized military action against Iraq was controlled by the Democratic Party. The other had a split Senate.
I understand what Truman did with Korea, it was unconstitutional. I just finished saying that when UN Resolutions are used as precedence for using the US Military, that that's a way for the Executive Branch to ignore it's Constitutional limits, and usurp that power from Congress.
Obviously sir, you also have a lot to learn....
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