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OF all hobbyists, we should know the nature of statistics


5.4% unemployment is a loaded statistic... don't forget that it represents 8,000,000 people

And... they are only people actively collecting unemployment benefits... there are still 1.6 million in a fringe that the government doesn't like to include... they are, and I quote the United states department of labor here...

The number of persons who were marginally attached to the labor force was
1.6 million in August, about the same as a year earlier.  (Data are not sea-
sonally adjusted.)  These individuals wanted and were available to work and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months.  They were not counted
as unemployed, however, because they did not actively search for work in the
4 weeks preceding the survey.  There were 534,000 discouraged workers in
August, also about the same as a year earlier.  Discouraged workers, a subset
of the marginally attached, were not currently looking for work specifically
because they believed no jobs were available for them.  The other 1.1 million
marginally attached had not searched for work for reasons such as school or
family responsibilities.

1.6 million don't count? Statistics are dangerous in an election year because they can be skewed and adjusted to fit the need of the group requesting or gathering the statistics.

They don't even have a statistic for those who went back to work after the Nafta-Shafta to a job that pays less or has limited or no health benefits?

People won't understand until it affects them... I guess that's the bottom line. It's easy to accept the ignorance of those who have not had to come home not once but twice (or more times) to their families and tell them they were laid off for no better reason than government blessed corporate greed...

THe republicans do not care about the poor or the middle class, the democrats do not care about the rich and the middle class, so regardless of who wins, it's not going to really make things better for the middle class, but an administration willing to stick it to corporate greed is better than the blatant arrogance of rich nafta abusers who are more than willing to sell out their own people for profit.... just go vote and show them we still care... The deadline to register is very early in october, so go do it now, and bring a norm of ID to the poll if you are a first time voter or voting in a new district, that will make the process easier for you. Regardless of which way you vote, just do it because not voting has apparently given them the green light to do whatever they want.

Take all statistics with a grain of salt, because they express what the poll takers want it to express, just like you can fool yourself into believing misleading lottery statistics... we as a group know better than that... just because it hasn't affected you yet doesn't mean it's not affecting millions of others...

Entry #41


ToddComment by Todd - September 25, 2004, 4:18 pm
Your statement of "THe republicans do not care about the poor or the middle class" is a lie, and it sickens me. You have gone over the edge, and I don't think I will be reading your Blog anymore. See 'ya.
hypersoniqComment by hypersoniq - September 25, 2004, 4:31 pm
"If you want to post a positive comment, please do! If you want to post a negative comment, I'd rather you send me a PM than to put it in my Blog."


ToddComment by Todd - September 25, 2004, 4:38 pm
Sorry, it's my board, and I have an aversion to lies being posted on it. I figure since I spend thousands of dollars and hours every year on it, I am allowed to break the rules once or twice. This seemed like a good time to do it. So shoot me.
hypersoniqComment by hypersoniq - September 25, 2004, 6:12 pm
It's not a lie, it's an opinion, that's what blogs are all about, right?
didn't realize I needed a disclaimer...
The poor have welfare and other programs fought for by the democrats
the rich have capital gains tax cuts fought for by the republicans
The middle class gets band aid "token" tax breaks that will only end up being paid for by our children in the future...
pretty easy to see where I might get that idea. If this were a general forum entry, I might feel the need to list supporting facts... In a blog, however...

I do appreciate the hard work you do at the LP, and it is your board, of course...

in the preamble of NAFTA, one of the founding guidelines is that it does not aversely affect the workforces of any of the participating countries... they blew that already... How is fast-tracking 30+ countries into NAFTA going to help anyone but the rich? Do you think the mexican workforce doing our jobs is getting a better lifestyle? no. OSHA regs don't follow the jobs, they live in cardboard villiages outside the plants and work in abusive conditions for peanuts while the CEO's retire with millions... Bush wants more of this.
It's time to replace free trade with fair trade.

observations... not lies...
here's another, secondary agendas for recent conflicts... not that they are the sole reasons... but the fact that a war was going on was convenient...

1st Iraq war...... Justify the F117A program
Bosnia............ Justify the B2 program
Current Iraq War.. Justify the F-22 Program

regardless of who wins we will need another conflict to seal the deal for the Joint Strike Fighter... Observation... I am a big fan of all the aircraft listed, I made parts for all but the F117A (orders ended before I got that job). They spanned several administrations, not saying it's right or wrong... it just is. In observation of daily life, republicands tend to favor rich and dems favor the poor... both ignore the middle class... at least from this view.

I would rather gamble on kerry than go with sure economic armageddon...

Comment by trance - September 27, 2004, 12:58 am
since its todd's borad,the media control power is in his hands.So The negative points on bush is negative to the media controller.I hope the forum is a place of free ideas.Meanwhile,we should follow the rule.

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