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N.C. resident speaks out against computerized lottery drawings

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Posted: November 25, 2005, 11:31 pm - IP Logged

They better start a letter writing campaign before the "director" makes the purchase...otherwise, its all over. Michigan has rng for everything but the 3 and 4 digits....the number game is their cash cow and I think they would be scared to death to change to the RNG type drawings for fear of out right revolt, therefore they resort to changing the ball sets EVERY drawing.....better that than the RNG tho....To me you have a better chance at winning on an instant ticket than any thing that is RNG generated, that is why I rarely play anything other than the 3 and 4 pick games and the mega-millions.... at least those 3 drawings are live?

Are you certain MI uses balls for Pick 3 and Pick 4?  I've been operating/playing under incorrect notions then...I had thought that MI was using RNG for all of their drawings.  I pretty much had stayed clear of MI for that reason on P3 and P4.

In the end though, I guess its not so much whether one can find "trends" in RNG games (seems like they show there as much as in the  manual games) but its the potential for abuse/rigging that the game operators have at their disposal that is the problem.  Lottery Commissions are basically government, and since government has made themselves a track record of being untrustworthy and sneaky over the years, is it any wonder that so many of us view them with high suspicion on everything they do?

I know I trust government about as far as I could toss a horse !

I watch the drawings every day... I am certain it is a ball drawing...

What I don't understand about MI though is if you look closely, sometimes the balls will look "dirty." I have seen this on more than a few occasions and I am convinced they NEVER change the ball sets... they just leave them in the machine and let them collect dust and dirt to the point it makes them weigh too much and then they just scrap the machines and go to RNG's... this is what I think happened with Cash (Fantasy) 5 and MI Lotto. The balls were so horrendously dirty on the last televised draw of MI Rolldown that it looked like they had never been changed or cleaned.

Come On Michigan! Listen to your players and scrap the RNG's!!!!

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    Posted: November 26, 2005, 2:37 pm - IP Logged

    CoffeeHAPPY SATURDAY AFTERNOON EVERYONE........11/26

    I just popped out of my cup of Tea to ask a "quick ?"........are computerized drawings the same or similar to the "quick pick numbers"???.....I would really like to know.........

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      Posted: November 27, 2005, 1:09 am - IP Logged

      CoffeeHAPPY SATURDAY AFTERNOON EVERYONE........11/26

      I just popped out of my cup of Tea to ask a "quick ?"........are computerized drawings the same or similar to the "quick pick numbers"???.....I would really like to know.........

      Depends on the state. Most states use a different system than the one used for quick picks. But one state, Indiana, gets the results from the same computer that does the quick picks.

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        Posted: November 27, 2005, 1:29 pm - IP Logged

        CoffeeHAPPY SATURDAY AFTERNOON EVERYONE........11/26

        I just popped out of my cup of Tea to ask a "quick ?"........are computerized drawings the same or similar to the "quick pick numbers"???.....I would really like to know.........

        Depends on the state. Most states use a different system than the one used for quick picks. But one state, Indiana, gets the results from the same computer that does the quick picks.

        JS9:

        That's not true.  Quick Picks are generated by the lottery machine where you buy the tickets, and the Indiana lottery drawing results are generated by a couple of PCs in a room in lottery HQ.  I'm not saying that computerized drawings are any good (they're not), but I just want to be clear that Quick Picks are generated in a different place.

        However, from what I understand, the RNG employed by the Indiana lottery drawing PCs is pretty simple, so it is probably fairly similar to the RNGs used in the lottery machines to generate the QPs.

         

        Check the State Lottery Report Card
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        Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
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          Posted: November 27, 2005, 1:32 pm - IP Logged

          They better start a letter writing campaign before the "director" makes the purchase...otherwise, its all over. Michigan has rng for everything but the 3 and 4 digits....the number game is their cash cow and I think they would be scared to death to change to the RNG type drawings for fear of out right revolt, therefore they resort to changing the ball sets EVERY drawing.....better that than the RNG tho....To me you have a better chance at winning on an instant ticket than any thing that is RNG generated, that is why I rarely play anything other than the 3 and 4 pick games and the mega-millions.... at least those 3 drawings are live?

          Are you certain MI uses balls for Pick 3 and Pick 4?  I've been operating/playing under incorrect notions then...I had thought that MI was using RNG for all of their drawings.  I pretty much had stayed clear of MI for that reason on P3 and P4.

          In the end though, I guess its not so much whether one can find "trends" in RNG games (seems like they show there as much as in the  manual games) but its the potential for abuse/rigging that the game operators have at their disposal that is the problem.  Lottery Commissions are basically government, and since government has made themselves a track record of being untrustworthy and sneaky over the years, is it any wonder that so many of us view them with high suspicion on everything they do?

          I know I trust government about as far as I could toss a horse !

          You can find the breakdown of all the games for every state on the State Lottery Report Card.  Michigan still uses real drawings for its Pick 3 and Pick 4 games (thank goodness), but I would be seriously worried if I were a Michigan resident.  The fact that three of their games are already computerized is a very bad sign.

           

          Check the State Lottery Report Card
          What grade did your lottery earn?

           

          Sign the Petition for True Lottery Drawings
          Help eliminate computerized drawings!

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            Posted: November 27, 2005, 1:34 pm - IP Logged

            DisneyIn SC they write the quick picks of the day on a board for everyone to see.

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              Posted: November 28, 2005, 11:31 am - IP Logged

              CoffeeHAPPY SATURDAY AFTERNOON EVERYONE........11/26

              I just popped out of my cup of Tea to ask a "quick ?"........are computerized drawings the same or similar to the "quick pick numbers"???.....I would really like to know.........

              Depends on the state. Most states use a different system than the one used for quick picks. But one state, Indiana, gets the results from the same computer that does the quick picks.

              JS9:

              That's not true.  Quick Picks are generated by the lottery machine where you buy the tickets, and the Indiana lottery drawing results are generated by a couple of PCs in a room in lottery HQ.  I'm not saying that computerized drawings are any good (they're not), but I just want to be clear that Quick Picks are generated in a different place.

              However, from what I understand, the RNG employed by the Indiana lottery drawing PCs is pretty simple, so it is probably fairly similar to the RNGs used in the lottery machines to generate the QPs.

              Lurkingthax much for the info.  my observation has been that "QPS" in Maryland for the M&M have not been half as successful as the art of "Choosing Your Own Numbers"......Whereas, in other States such as Indiana, Ohio, PA, Missouri...to name a few, the "QPS" come out fairly often.