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Posted: January 22, 2008, 11:06 am - IP Logged

What will happen to the clerk when this man gets out of jail? Does the press even have to mention the clerk's part in this? Is it not enough public information that a policeman had gone underground and busted this man? What happens to "responsible reporting"?

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    I don't know why this bothers me so much.  Maybe I just don't like anyone else getting the winnings except the one who scratched it off and won it. I don't like the idea that it is okay for the police or anyone else to take someone else's winnings if they aren't (yet) in debt to someone or the state or the government.  I fully support the back child support thing and other stuff, for instance if you filed bankruptcy within the last six months and that sort of thing.   But something about this story bothers me.  What are they going to do with it?   

    usually any money or items of value  that are confiscated during a drug arrest are auctioned off and the proceeds are returned to the local drug enforcement agency.

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      Posted: January 22, 2008, 11:31 am - IP Logged

      usually any money or items of value  that are confiscated during a drug arrest are auctioned off and the proceeds are returned to the local drug enforcement agency.

      Same thing happens when people are caught poaching in my state.  Everything is confiscated, even the truck they were in.  If they're convicted it's all auctioned off.  I think it's very fair.  If they weren't out there breaking the law, we wouldn't need to be paying people to catch them.  So it's only fair that when they're convicted they help pay for the resources they caused to be needed. 

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        Posted: January 22, 2008, 11:41 am - IP Logged

        What will happen to the clerk when this man gets out of jail? Does the press even have to mention the clerk's part in this? Is it not enough public information that a policeman had gone underground and busted this man? What happens to "responsible reporting"?

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          Posted: January 22, 2008, 12:22 pm - IP Logged

          What will happen to the clerk when this man gets out of jail? Does the press even have to mention the clerk's part in this? Is it not enough public information that a policeman had gone underground and busted this man? What happens to "responsible reporting"?

          I guess it's obvious that they don't have a program there where you can report criminal activities anonomously. An article like this tells me that if I lived there I wouldn't report anyone in the fear of repercussions.

          Another thing the article said he APPARENTLY used drug money to buy the tickets. 

          Definition of apparently:  according to what seems to be the case but may not actually be so.

           I'm sure when all is said and done the drug money will have been what was used to buy the tickets.

          I love doubles and remember, it's just a game!!!!!!

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            usually any money or items of value  that are confiscated during a drug arrest are auctioned off and the proceeds are returned to the local drug enforcement agency.

            Yep, even if they were Birthday presents or Christmas gifts.  A lady was complaining when her son got busted for selling drugs and he had just recently received a huge settlement from a car accident and law enforcement took that too.  So that's the price you pay for being a drug dealer.  Drug dealers know this going into it. 

            Drug law enforcement will work better if they would just stop the drugs from coming into the country and into the city. 

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                 Spy, this is just my opinion, but I think the reason this bothers you so much is because the man has been arrested, tried and convicted in four column-inches of newsprint. The guy's obviously guilty; he's a drug dealer, after all, so why bother with a trial?

                 As we progress into the 21st century, our legal system seems to be reverting to the archaic ways of 16th century England, when the monarchy could take anything they wanted from the serfdom without process. This practice caused a revolution in America, which led to our independence from the crown.

                 Here in Indiana, the governor and the legislature are considering a bill which would allow the citizens of our state to hold referendum votes. Currently, referendums are illegal here unless approved by the State House. There is also a law on our books which makes it a crime to collect signatures on a recall petition against an elected official who isn't doing his job. The police in Indiana can arrest anyone without probable cause, they're not required to read a suspect his Constitutional rights, they don't have to tell us what we're being charged with and they have no obligation to tell us we're under arrest. In addition, Indiana prosecutors can use perjured testimony to try to gain a conviction. I'm NOT exaggerating; all of these things actually happened to me, and I was told, "There's nothing you can do about it." Fortunately, I had the good sense to insist on a trial by jury, and I was acquitted of all charges. However, despite my acquittal, I still lost many of my civil and Constitutional rights, and I've been defeated in all attempts to have my property returned to me.

                 Three years ago, I never would have believed this could happen in this country, just as some of you refuse to believe it now. I've been a victim of our system of "justice," and if it can happen to me, the odds are better than average that it can happen to you, too. I didn't even break the law, but I found myself in a courtroom facing six years in state prison for stopping a man who was trying to flee from the police during the commission of a felony.

                 As for America's "drug problem," I would like to point out one tiny fact: if the good citizens of this nation didn't buy illegal drugs by the ton, the dealers would have no marketplace. Yes, the guy in the article will probably go to prison for a while, but someone else will step up to provide the services abandoned by the jailed offender. The guy sold one methadone tablet for fifteen dollars, and the State of Maine will spend $50,000 in taxpayer money to send him to jail, then they'll pay up to $60,000 PER YEAR to keep him there. 

                 Since Ronald Reagan left office, America has spent nearly a trillion dollars on the War On Drugs. With that kind of money behind the mission, the war should be over any day now ...   

              Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

              Jim

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                Posted: January 22, 2008, 3:00 pm - IP Logged

                Yep, even if they were Birthday presents or Christmas gifts.  A lady was complaining when her son got busted for selling drugs and he had just recently received a huge settlement from a car accident and law enforcement took that too.  So that's the price you pay for being a drug dealer.  Drug dealers know this going into it. 

                Drug law enforcement will work better if they would just stop the drugs from coming into the country and into the city. 

                TJ:

                I was not pleased about the LADY & her son "LOSING" present's

                or Chrimast gift's>>>>>>>NoelPukegoverment got UR $$$$

                BUT, did HE WIN a GOVERNMENT LOTTERY>>>>>>>>>>>>TOO??

                WAS the money played $$$$$$$$$$$$$$MARKED??????????????

                WAS he a citizen of the US or was he about to make an app for??

                YES>>>>>>>>>>>>>WE OWE, WE OWE off to WORK we GO!!

                THANK you for your support TJ.....UR a great CITIZEN of USA !!!!!!

                LOL

                PSYKOMO 

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                  Posted: January 22, 2008, 3:17 pm - IP Logged

                  "It won't be long before your car can be taken because you have an unpaid parking ticket."

                   

                  That's nothing new.  I knew someone in 1975 who had his car towed for having too many tickets.  They used to use a boot, but that was a long time ago.  So what?  If you violate the law too many times, you should pay the price!  I guess all of us should park in front of fire hydrants and hospitals or drive 50mph past a school bus and just get away with it!  Driving a car is not a right, it's a privilege.  So many people who grow up seeing everyone driving around them forget that it's a weapon made from steel that can kill, not a toy.  It has to be regulated.  A parking ticket is a minor offense, and they don't tow your car for one ticket.  I don't like parking meters and don't like tickets either. Do you think I like getting a speeding ticket?  Of course not!  But without a police force, there would be total chaos everywhere.

                  I'm not crazy about the police and the abuse of power either, but most people who are hassled by cops are doing something wrong.  Most people in jail (not all) did something wrong.  Your remark about the property disappearing cannot possibly apply to this story since it's public information.  If the police were going to steal ths $1,000 bucks, it wouldn't be in a newspaper article in the first place!  Duh?

                  I agree with Jim on several points.  I also believe that the rich will get preferential treatment.  the man probably wasn't a big drug dealer, since what he was selling is often given to heroin addicts to ease the pain of withdrawal and he probably was selling them for rent money.  Still, he was doing something illegal.  We need to have laws.  Do you know that if a doctor prescribes Valium for me to sleep and I sell a 10mg pill to my neighbor for $20 I will also be arrested?  That is the law and everyone knows it.  You can't share narcotics or controlled substances, legally prescribed or not. Many of them are wrong and should be challenged, but without laws I wouldn't want to leave my house without a weapon.

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                    "It won't be long before your car can be taken because you have an unpaid parking ticket."

                     

                    That's nothing new.  I knew someone in 1975 who had his car towed for having too many tickets.  They used to use a boot, but that was a long time ago.  So what?  If you violate the law too many times, you should pay the price!  I guess all of us should park in front of fire hydrants and hospitals or drive 50mph past a school bus and just get away with it!  Driving a car is not a right, it's a privilege.  So many people who grow up seeing everyone driving around them forget that it's a weapon made from steel that can kill, not a toy.  It has to be regulated.  A parking ticket is a minor offense, and they don't tow your car for one ticket.  I don't like parking meters and don't like tickets either. Do you think I like getting a speeding ticket?  Of course not!  But without a police force, there would be total chaos everywhere.

                    I'm not crazy about the police and the abuse of power either, but most people who are hassled by cops are doing something wrong.  Most people in jail (not all) did something wrong.  Your remark about the property disappearing cannot possibly apply to this story since it's public information.  If the police were going to steal ths $1,000 bucks, it wouldn't be in a newspaper article in the first place!  Duh?

                    I agree with Jim on several points.  I also believe that the rich will get preferential treatment.  the man probably wasn't a big drug dealer, since what he was selling is often given to heroin addicts to ease the pain of withdrawal and he probably was selling them for rent money.  Still, he was doing something illegal.  We need to have laws.  Do you know that if a doctor prescribes Valium for me to sleep and I sell a 10mg pill to my neighbor for $20 I will also be arrested?  That is the law and everyone knows it.  You can't share narcotics or controlled substances, legally prescribed or not. Many of them are wrong and should be challenged, but without laws I wouldn't want to leave my house without a weapon.

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                      Ugh, more Dingbats. The best way to quit using drugs is to never start. You gotta be in it to lose it! It is a good question what the ticket was worth when he purchased it? An unplayed ticket is worth whatever its cost is. It would be interesting if they had confiscated an unplayed ticket or before the drawing (was it a scratch-off or other?) and if the Police had then played or checked the ticket to see if it had any value.

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                        As we progress into the 21st century, our legal system seems to be reverting to the archaic ways of 16th century England, when the monarchy could take anything they wanted from the serfdom without process.

                        Which creates an inherent conflict of interests. An innocent person still has to spend their time and resources to fight the case. That money goes into lawyer fees and court costs.

                        If the person does jail time, there's plenty of money paid to house, guard(sic), and feed them. Well over $15, but the "Do de crime, do de time" people are bad at math. I guess it would be pointless to mention that there's even a group of (current and former) Law Enforcement officers Against the drug Prohibition laws, or that the prohibition of alcohol (18th amendment) mainly helped strengthen a) organized crime & b) Canadian breweries.

                        Those who go along with "whateva de law say" haven't been paying attention to some of "de laws" that have been passed lately. They would do well to look up the phrase 'habeas corpus' and know that it has been suspended. 

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                          Posted: January 22, 2008, 10:31 pm - IP Logged

                          Yep, even if they were Birthday presents or Christmas gifts.  A lady was complaining when her son got busted for selling drugs and he had just recently received a huge settlement from a car accident and law enforcement took that too.  So that's the price you pay for being a drug dealer.  Drug dealers know this going into it. 

                          Drug law enforcement will work better if they would just stop the drugs from coming into the country and into the city. 

                          That doesn't and hasn't worked. IMHO, when the users start being targeted and jailed, it'll make recreational drug use a whole lot less attractive.

                          Blessed Saint Leibowitz, keep 'em dreamin' down there..... 

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                            Posted: January 23, 2008, 12:10 am - IP Logged

                            o maaaaaaaan, I would be sooo mad but then again he shouldn't have asked a gas station clerk to hook him up with clients

                            Oogle  waiting patiently for my jackpot

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                              20/20 did a report about cops targeting out of state cars in Louisiana for seizure due to traffic tickets. One was enough. They would hold the car until court and if the court deemed it necessary, the car was sold and the profits given to the police department. The money was used for ski holidays for cops.