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Sopranos' Vinny Vella fumes over $5M lotto misprint

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Posted: June 21, 2008, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

This happened in Florida twice before.

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    Posted: June 21, 2008, 8:07 pm - IP Logged

    VINNY WILL WIN  either 5 MIL, OR  100 MILLION- minus fees( 35%)   so  its  5  or 65   ny lottery will loose

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      Posted: June 21, 2008, 11:23 pm - IP Logged

      i don't understand, don't they let the computer do this? Computers don't maker errors, they can't possibly make errors...Why don't they let the computer take over the situation....

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        Posted: June 21, 2008, 11:37 pm - IP Logged

        i don't understand, don't they let the computer do this? Computers don't maker errors, they can't possibly make errors...Why don't they let the computer take over the situation....

        That's exactly what they did, Pumpi.  It's not a winner, but the man who bought the ticket is upset because it appeared to be one when he scratched it.  This has happened before as someone pointed out in another post.  The bottom line is, when they scan the ticket, that's what they use to determine the outcome.  There will always be printing errors, so people need to check everything on a scratch ticket carefully.  Personally, I don't buy them.

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          Posted: June 22, 2008, 12:45 am - IP Logged

          They shoped this on the news, and the news report said they can't show a lottery ticket (didn't explain why not) so they showed an artist's rendition.

          This is kind of flaky, but underneath the numbers on this ticket, where the numbers are writtne out, the written out number said SEVTN. Vellas was saying change that T to an E and it spells SEVEN and that was the misprint, that it was a 7.

          When I saw this I checked an Illinois scratcher and if the number is 17 it is written SVTN.

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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            Posted: June 22, 2008, 7:53 am - IP Logged

            So let me get this straight - regardless of the error on this particular ticket, everyone, including the lottery says even if it prints the correct winning number where you scratch, it could be an error.  And they won't pay.

            Suppose the error looks like a losing ticket where you scratch?  But the code number below shows your ticket to be a big winner.  How are you supposed to ever know it wasn't a loser?  No one I know has every ticket scanned.

            I think lotteries should pay for any and all legitimate printing errors.  "Legitimate" errors that actually have a winning number shown where you scratch.   They should be accountable for those kinds of mistakes.   I have no idea how to solve my question concerning an error in favor of the player when it is in the code numbers.

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              Posted: June 22, 2008, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

              So let me get this straight - regardless of the error on this particular ticket, everyone, including the lottery says even if it prints the correct winning number where you scratch, it could be an error.  And they won't pay.

              Suppose the error looks like a losing ticket where you scratch?  But the code number below shows your ticket to be a big winner.  How are you supposed to ever know it wasn't a loser?  No one I know has every ticket scanned.

              I think lotteries should pay for any and all legitimate printing errors.  "Legitimate" errors that actually have a winning number shown where you scratch.   They should be accountable for those kinds of mistakes.   I have no idea how to solve my question concerning an error in favor of the player when it is in the code numbers.

              I agree. In a way it's like a car accident. If you hit another car, even if it was an accident, you're still the one at fault, and you still have to pay. It's the lottery's responsibility to make sure the lowest amount of defected tickets are sold. They neglected to do that, thus they have committed negligence. You can still forget whatever legal disclaimers they have or the letters that are under the numbers; negligence still remains. I would be upset too if I spent $20 on a defected ticket to find out I didn't win anything.

              Gonna win.Big Smile

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                Posted: June 22, 2008, 5:40 pm - IP Logged

                So let me get this straight - regardless of the error on this particular ticket, everyone, including the lottery says even if it prints the correct winning number where you scratch, it could be an error.  And they won't pay.

                Suppose the error looks like a losing ticket where you scratch?  But the code number below shows your ticket to be a big winner.  How are you supposed to ever know it wasn't a loser?  No one I know has every ticket scanned.

                I think lotteries should pay for any and all legitimate printing errors.  "Legitimate" errors that actually have a winning number shown where you scratch.   They should be accountable for those kinds of mistakes.   I have no idea how to solve my question concerning an error in favor of the player when it is in the code numbers.

                ........after officials at a state lottery office refuted his claims, insisting one of the sevens was actually a number 17.

                The official also pointed out an abbreviation underneath the numeral to dispel any further queries.

                Vinny argued that the 17 looked like a 77 because of the ink over run but just like any document of value, like a regular check for example, both the printed numbers and the written numbers have to agree.  That's not a new rule made up to deny him a prize,  that rule has alway applied to everyone who buys a scratch-off tickets.  He doesn't have an argument.

                 * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                   
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                  Posted: June 22, 2008, 7:15 pm - IP Logged

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                  He doesn't have an argument.

                  I did say "regardless of the error on this particular ticket."  You are probably right about this particular case. 

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                    Posted: June 23, 2008, 1:15 am - IP Logged

                    Normally, I would say tough luck, but they acknowledged that the tickets were defected and allowed them to be sold anyway. 4500 of them, and those suckers cost $20 each. That's $90,000 worth of defected tickets. That's way too much. I hope he wins in this case.

                    If you read the article again, maybe you'll notice that they didn't sell 4500 tickets that were known to be defective. They knew there was a problem with 4500 tickets, so they weren't sold. No matter how careful they are there will always be some errors. That's one of the reasons that the numbers are printed as numerals and as words. You can hope as much as you want, but he will lose.

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                      Posted: June 23, 2008, 12:26 pm - IP Logged

                      I think the example of a check is a good analogy.   Someone might go to a bank hoping a check is really for $455.00   If it says Forty-five and 50/100 dollars then it's not $450.00.   

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                        Posted: June 23, 2008, 8:14 pm - IP Logged

                        If the number you scratch says "7" and below it is printed svtn or whatever to indicate seventeen, then it is like a check.   They should give the person back their money though - or replace the ticket.

                        If the number you scratch says "7" and below it is printed seven - and the code number that the lottery looks at says it is not a winner - they should pay.   My argument is, if everything looks right to the consumer but the only way to tell a ticket is a loser is in the secret code number - the lottery should pay regardless if they say there was some error.   

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                          Posted: June 23, 2008, 8:25 pm - IP Logged

                          If the number you scratch says "7" and below it is printed svtn or whatever to indicate seventeen, then it is like a check.   They should give the person back their money though - or replace the ticket.

                          If the number you scratch says "7" and below it is printed seven - and the code number that the lottery looks at says it is not a winner - they should pay.   My argument is, if everything looks right to the consumer but the only way to tell a ticket is a loser is in the secret code number - the lottery should pay regardless if they say there was some error.   

                          I agree with you, but I'm sort of in the dark here, because it's been a long time since I've purchase a scratch-off.  Has that ever happened?

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                            Posted: June 29, 2008, 10:32 am - IP Logged

                            I agree with you, but I'm sort of in the dark here, because it's been a long time since I've purchase a scratch-off.  Has that ever happened?

                            Jimmy should get paid,if there were mistakes made on the winning tickets, just think how many losers have been thrown away that was winners it works both ways.NONE of the lotterys have ever acknowledge that they
                            misprints on losing tickets.   it never happens

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                              Posted: June 29, 2008, 12:19 pm - IP Logged

                              I don't play Scratch off tickets. I only play ball machine drawings.

                              what I have a problem with, is that the lottery officials mistakes are not just limited to scratch offs.

                              I wonder how many drawing errors they have made in the Powerball and Megamillions.

                              I remember one misdraw myself. had I have had those numbers that originally came up that draw and the lottery officials refused to pay me. you can believe that we would have been going to court!

                              wether or not I would have won the argument is debateable, but I bet it would have made some headlines.

                              "know your limitations, but excede your expectations"