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Sex offender wins Alaska lottery that aids sex abuse victims

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Posted: January 12, 2009, 12:45 am - IP Logged

Castration actually won't help him or anyone like him stop their behavior.  These types of people really are wired wrong in their brain. They would be better serviced by a neurologist than a sharp knife and some lye. Now, poor wiring is certainly no excuse for his behavior because 99.99% of these people know they are doing the wrong thing...all I'm saying is castration won't help him and he's more likely than not, going to repeat his past behavior...which unfortunately isn't as random as the lottery he won.

I disagree. The inability to get it up WILL prevent him to not commit the crime at least in that respect.

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    How could you possibly know? The article only says that he was convicted of "abusing a minor." That's nothing more than a generic legal term that tells us he and a minor had some kind of encounter that was deemed to be of a sexual nature. He could have had consensual intercourse with a "minor" who was one week shy of turning 18,  or he could have forcibly raped a minor of any age. In that case, chemical castration could prevent him from repeating that specific offense. OTOH, he could have exposed himself, fondled a minor of any age, performed oral sex or done any number of things that require a functioning organ between his ears, but require nothing between his legs. The problem with applying simplistic cookie cutter solutions is that they only solve a few of the problems they're aimed at.

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      I am assuming you are telling me that raped people are the winners of the jackpot...I didn't read the whole thing dont have time to read all that...

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      The lottery benefited victims of rape, article did not say the winners are rape victims.  the random drawing was won by a sex assault offender.  Castration shouldl have been his fate after his first victim.

      I wish his victims could sue him for compensation that may cover 1/10 of the amount they may spend toward counseling and healing for the rest of their lives.

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        You obviously don't have children or have never been a victim of rape.  This man can NEVER turn his life around.  He's been convicted 3 times of sexual abuse of a minor.   That's 2 times too much.   He should have been exterminated the first time he took a child's innocence away.  John Couey, who raped & buried little Jessica Lunsford alive clutching onto her teddy bear, had also turned his life around after committing child abuse.  People like this do not change. They are wired wrong. 

        When I first read this post my first reaction was, "That you have to be kidding me?"  This is truly IRONIC!, It just shows that God has no respect of person. I am in no way defending his actions, but he did enter the drawing and had every right to win the jackpot as anyone else. I remember a guy in Florida named Edward R. Cowal who is also a  convicted sex offender who won a 14 million dollar jackpot back in Jan of 2007. In an odd twist it does bring a lot more awareness to sex abuse victims and now millions of people know that Alec Ahsoac is a sex offender. I agree that people like this usually don't change but they were still able to raise money for awareness and if Mr. Ahsoac stays true to his word they will benefit more.

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          Good story to kick off the new year!

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            I have to agree with you according to the stats most sex offenders repeat and repeat. Now if he was to get chemically/physically castrated then I'll believe him. I also believe once is one too many. Castrate them all.

            Facts don't seem to agree with your statement.

            Recidivism

            • Of the 272,111 persons released from prisons in 15 States in 1994, an estimated 67.5% were rearrested for a felony or serious misdemeanor within 3 years, 46.9% were reconvicted, and 25.4% resentenced to prison for a new crime.
            • The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 accounted for nearly 4,877,000 arrest charges over their recorded careers.
            • Within 3 years of release, 2.5% of released rapists were rearrested for another rape, and 1.2% of those who had served time for homicide were arrested for a new homicide.
            • Sex offenders were less likely than non-sex offenders to be rearrested for any offense –– 43 percent of sex offenders versus 68 percent of non-sex offenders.

            Bureau of Justice Statistics Criminal Offenders Statistics:
            http://www.ojp.gov/bjs/crimoff.htm

            The above, is not a statement about this individual guy that won this lottery.  Nor am I sticking up for sex offenders in general.  Just like other ex-cons that won lotteries, this guy bought a ticket and he got lucky.

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              I don't understand why child molesters aren't put away for life for their first offense

              Because there has to be plenty of room in prisons for people who smoke pot or do other drugs.  Besides, what a person chooses to put into his own body is wayyyyy worse than voilating children, right? Bang Head

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                I don't understand why child molesters aren't put away for life for their first offense

                Because there has to be plenty of room in prisons for people who smoke pot or do other drugs.  Besides, what a person chooses to put into his own body is wayyyyy worse than voilating children, right? Bang Head

                You are trying to make it sound like people who do drugs only hurts the drug user and if that were the case you might have had a point. But you don't.

                Last Christmas my boss's son's family was murdered because a drug addict came to their door asking for money so he could get some more drugs. They told him to leave, he murdered the father and mother and left the 3 year old child in the house by herself after doing so. If it hadn't been done on Christmas eve there is no telling how long the little girl would have been in the house alone with the corpses of her parents. When they caught the killer they ask him why he did it, he said he needed to get high and they wouldn't help him. No matter how you cut it, there is no innocent spin you can put on it.

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                  How could you possibly know? The article only says that he was convicted of "abusing a minor." That's nothing more than a generic legal term that tells us he and a minor had some kind of encounter that was deemed to be of a sexual nature. He could have had consensual intercourse with a "minor" who was one week shy of turning 18,  or he could have forcibly raped a minor of any age. In that case, chemical castration could prevent him from repeating that specific offense. OTOH, he could have exposed himself, fondled a minor of any age, performed oral sex or done any number of things that require a functioning organ between his ears, but require nothing between his legs. The problem with applying simplistic cookie cutter solutions is that they only solve a few of the problems they're aimed at.

                      I don't very often agree with KYFloyd, but this time I have to totally agree with him. There is nothing specific about his charges for anyone to cement their comments. Before you actually hang this guy from the highest tree, find out exactly what he was convicted of...!

                      IF his conviction was of the lessor type, such as flashing a minor he deserves,   and needs help, no different than someone who cross-dresses.  IF his charges were other than those, than he needs to be behind bars so he can't hurt anyone else, and he can have his " Breakfast " in bed while he is there.

                     All of us have made mistakes in our lives, and some have even compounded the mistakes we've made, maybe not of the same nature as HE, but nonetheless we're guilty. So, before you go and cut off this guys B*&&$  , Find out for sure, then come back and REAM him a new A$$@#@#. 

                     Wasn't there a Woman who seduced a 12 year old boy who was in her classroom, and then after some jail time came back and had a Reallity wedding????

                                                               

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                    IF his conviction was of the lessor type, such as flashing a minor he deserves,   and needs help, no different than someone who cross-dresses. 

                     

                    What don't people here understand about the word "REPEAT?"  The man was convicted 3 times!

                    "Ahsoak has three convictions for sexual abuse of a minor 2 on his record."

                    I don't feel like elaborating too much, because I might say something I shouldn't.  However, when there's a news article about a lottery scam, everyone always says that the thieves should be shot.  We even complain about people scratching at the counter! 

                    Yet when a child or woman gets raped, the same people make up excuses to defend the perpetrator.  What does this say about our society?  These comments show why most women still won't come forward when they're sexually assaulted.  They're afraid that someone like True Critic or Maddog will be on the police force or the jury.  They're afraid a judge will say "she wanted it" even though she was screaming & begging.  Or maybe she liked "rough sex" which is why she had a black eye and bruises all over her body. 

                    A victim of a car theft is treated with more dignity and respect than a victim of sexual assault.

                     

                    EDIT:  Note the word "minor"    He will be 54 this month.   He was convicted in 1993 and in 2000.

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                      KY Floyd writes:

                      "He could have had consensual intercourse with a "minor" who was one week shy of turning 18.."

                       

                      No, he couldn't have.  If she was 17, he would not have been charged with sexual abuse of a minor 2.  This is the law in Alaska.  The minor had to be 15 or younger.

                       

                      Any person who is 16 years old or older who has sexual intercourse with a minor who is 13-, 14-, or 15-years-old will be charged with sexual abuse of a minor in the second degree. Again, this charge is also a felony.


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                        I don't understand why child molesters aren't put away for life for their first offense

                        Because there has to be plenty of room in prisons for people who smoke pot or do other drugs.  Besides, what a person chooses to put into his own body is wayyyyy worse than voilating children, right? Bang Head

                        In this day & age,very few people are sent to prison for "smoking pot or doing other drugs".On the other hand prisons are full of people that were convicted for DEALING drugs.I have absolutely NO PROBLEM with drug dealers rotting in prison,as a matter of fact, I think ALL drug dealers should be in prison for life.However,this thread IS NOT about drug use,its about a convicted child molester winning a jackpot.I feel that when someone molests a child he forfiets his right to live in free society.I'm a firm believer in one strike and you are out when it comes to child molesters.You might convince yourself that these sick s.o.b.'s can change but you will never convince me.Or the millions of children that are molested each year in America.

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                          IF his conviction was of the lessor type, such as flashing a minor he deserves,   and needs help, no different than someone who cross-dresses. 

                           

                          What don't people here understand about the word "REPEAT?"  The man was convicted 3 times!

                          "Ahsoak has three convictions for sexual abuse of a minor 2 on his record."

                          I don't feel like elaborating too much, because I might say something I shouldn't.  However, when there's a news article about a lottery scam, everyone always says that the thieves should be shot.  We even complain about people scratching at the counter! 

                          Yet when a child or woman gets raped, the same people make up excuses to defend the perpetrator.  What does this say about our society?  These comments show why most women still won't come forward when they're sexually assaulted.  They're afraid that someone like True Critic or Maddog will be on the police force or the jury.  They're afraid a judge will say "she wanted it" even though she was screaming & begging.  Or maybe she liked "rough sex" which is why she had a black eye and bruises all over her body. 

                          A victim of a car theft is treated with more dignity and respect than a victim of sexual assault.

                           

                          EDIT:  Note the word "minor"    He will be 54 this month.   He was convicted in 1993 and in 2000.

                            JX,

                           Where in my comments do you see that I defend this perpetrator  ??? What do you mean ," These comments".???

                           Since your being so boisterous with your words, Tell me what was He convicted of??  (3) times, (2) of these on record. 

                          Don'y just pull out an excerp from my comment, read the whole thing. What you need to do is THINK, before you put your tounge into action. 

                          A drunk driver who has been convicted of DWI twice, goes out and drinks himself silly and then drives and kills a family of four, then goes to jail for manslaughter. You would be the first to say, the man has been convicted 3 times, the word THERE is repeat...!

                          As I've said, read my W H O L E comment and then use me as a whipping post. I do NOT judge anyone until I have the complete facts. 

                          "A victim of a car theft is treated with more dignity and respect than a victim of sexual assault."

                          Could this be because it's so easy to point a finger, rather than be truthful??

                          I DO NOT condone anyone who abuses a woman or child. But I won't condemn anyone until I have the facts straight......

                          My comments in no way have anything to do with your comment of someone being afraid they'll get someone like me on the Jury.. If my comments say that to you, you've got issues, not problems...!

                                                                       

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                            IF his conviction was of the lessor type, such as flashing a minor he deserves,   and needs help, no different than someone who cross-dresses. 

                             

                            What don't people here understand about the word "REPEAT?"  The man was convicted 3 times!

                            "Ahsoak has three convictions for sexual abuse of a minor 2 on his record."

                            I don't feel like elaborating too much, because I might say something I shouldn't.  However, when there's a news article about a lottery scam, everyone always says that the thieves should be shot.  We even complain about people scratching at the counter! 

                            Yet when a child or woman gets raped, the same people make up excuses to defend the perpetrator.  What does this say about our society?  These comments show why most women still won't come forward when they're sexually assaulted.  They're afraid that someone like True Critic or Maddog will be on the police force or the jury.  They're afraid a judge will say "she wanted it" even though she was screaming & begging.  Or maybe she liked "rough sex" which is why she had a black eye and bruises all over her body. 

                            A victim of a car theft is treated with more dignity and respect than a victim of sexual assault.

                             

                            EDIT:  Note the word "minor"    He will be 54 this month.   He was convicted in 1993 and in 2000.

                            I only posted factual data to correct the false belief that they, "sex offenders repeat and repeat."

                            They repeat less than the general population of the prison.  I only found the data.  If you feel the Bureau of Justice doesn't share your opinion of how the statistics should read for sex offenders, please send your corrected figures to the US Government.

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                              IF his conviction was of the lessor type, such as flashing a minor he deserves,   and needs help, no different than someone who cross-dresses. 

                               

                              What don't people here understand about the word "REPEAT?"  The man was convicted 3 times!

                              "Ahsoak has three convictions for sexual abuse of a minor 2 on his record."

                              I don't feel like elaborating too much, because I might say something I shouldn't.  However, when there's a news article about a lottery scam, everyone always says that the thieves should be shot.  We even complain about people scratching at the counter! 

                              Yet when a child or woman gets raped, the same people make up excuses to defend the perpetrator.  What does this say about our society?  These comments show why most women still won't come forward when they're sexually assaulted.  They're afraid that someone like True Critic or Maddog will be on the police force or the jury.  They're afraid a judge will say "she wanted it" even though she was screaming & begging.  Or maybe she liked "rough sex" which is why she had a black eye and bruises all over her body. 

                              A victim of a car theft is treated with more dignity and respect than a victim of sexual assault.

                               

                              EDIT:  Note the word "minor"    He will be 54 this month.   He was convicted in 1993 and in 2000.

                              Society and policy makers have long struggled with finding effective ways to protect the public from sex offenders. A sex offender is a person who has been convicted of certain sex offense crimes. Examples of sex offenses include:

                              • Sexual conduct with a minor
                              • Sexual assault
                              • Sexual assault of spouse
                              • Molestation of a child
                              • Continuous sexual abuse of a child
                              • Infamous crimes against nature
                              • Lewd and lascivious acts
                              • Indecent exposure and public sexual indecency
                              • Taking a child for the purpose of prostitution
                              • Sexual exploitation of a minor
                              • Incest
                              • Kidnapping, aggravated assault, murder, unlawful imprisonment, and burglary (when the offense includes evidence of sexual motivation)
                              • Failure to register as a sex offender
                              • Violation of Sex Offender Registration statutes

                              Most offenses involving criminal sexual conduct fall within the jurisdiction of state law, but federal law also includes a number of sexual offenses. The offenses are found in Title 18 of the United States Code. Some of the federal offenses specifically apply to sexual offenses committed within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States or in a federal prison. Other crimes involve offenders who cross state or international borders to commit, or in the commission, of a sexual offense. For example, 18 U.S.C. section 2251 makes it illegal to knowingly print, publish, or cause to be made, "any notice or advertisement seeking or offering to receive, exchange, buy, produce, display, distribute, or reproduce any visual depiction involving the use of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct. This statute also applies when such person knows that such notice or advertisement will be, or has been, transported in interstate or foreign commerce by any means, including by computer."

                                                                           

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