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Posted: May 4, 2009, 5:39 am - IP Logged

I don't know what all the fuss is about, the store owners and employees have every right to purchase lottery tickets of all kind. I understand they have a greater advantage because they work there or whatever, but they still have to purchase the ticket. Now if I knew a particular store owner was always hitting at their store I would avoid buying s-offs at that store, cause most likely the empolyees or owners would have bought enough to secure a winner, which would leave me with losers. They also have a good advantage at p3& p4 cause they see what players are playing and play the numbers, sometimes hitting, sometimes hitting nothing. P3 & P4 will pay up to a certain point on any one combination anyway , I don't care if somebody write down my numbers and play them, cause it's not going to change what I will get if the numbers come out. I have made friends with some store employees and will ask them if they notice folks playing the same numbers, and someimes they notice and sometimes they don't. A couple of times somebody will come into the store and pluck down $100 for one set of numbers exact, yeah I wanna know what that number is so I can get in on the action. someone came into the store and told the clerk to play 319 for that night draw, she told everybody who was playing, most ignore it, but when she said it to me I wrote 1 exact and 50/50, it hit that night. The bad thing about that was, she (the clerk) forgot to play it and got nothing, although I did tip her for the tip. My point is, if the lottery officials that produces the S-offs, know that they are sending winning tickets to a particular store and is buddies with that store owner or employees, that's a problem, a big problem. I will go into my neighborhood kroger and ask them have anybody won more than $20 on a particular S-off game , before I purchase any of the same games, so I don't end up with a lot of losers. Sometimes they know, sometime they don't, cause some folks take their tickets out the door and don't s-off until they get home. Sometimes I play with the employees, we will buy the same tickets and try to win something and even share in the prize money, cause we peel off alot losers to get to a prize. Well thats my .02 cents, I don't have a problem with it.

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    Posted: May 4, 2009, 6:09 am - IP Logged

    Yes the clerks at Food Lion do that all the time. Writing down the numbers especially if you a regular and win often.  I've heard them say that the regular winners are the numbers to play.

    I don't think they should be able to buy at the establishment that they work at, I won't say that they are cheating just yet because if you play a lot then you will win, but let them just play at other stores to see if they are actually winning on their own luck.

    I agree.  I don't think that many of them are cheating....just that they have an unfair advantage by copying down regular winner's numbers.  I absolutely hate it when the pause to look at my numbers before giving them to me.  They should NOT be allowed to purchase tickets from the stores in which they work.  Period.  Just like radio contests and tv contests.  I wish South Carolina would start investigating like California.  It's pretty bad when the only winners seem to be cashiers.  Maybe I should fill out an application and get in on the system.

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      Posted: May 4, 2009, 11:05 am - IP Logged

      I was glad to see Dateline NBC doing that little expose on the lottery cheats in California.  But I was blown away by how New York responded to Dateline's request to do a similar investigation there.  They actually put out an alert that was printed on all online tickets that Dateline is doing an investigation. 

      I would actually get a bit suspicious about multiple online winners as this could be a case of discounting (meaning the actual winner knows he/she owes back child support or taxes and doesn't want the winnings to be docked that amount, so they sell to the clerk/owner for a lesser amount so that both profit from the win).  The scratch off multiple winners are clearly fraudulent as shown by the Dateline NBC and California investigation. 

      This is another reason why I will not buy any lottery tickets in NY.  The other reasons is that they pay most things in annuities only (except for Mega, don't know about the NY Lotto).  The last reason is that should you happen to be passing through NY and purchase an online lottery ticket (Mega or Lotto), happen to buy a small dollar winner that doesn't warrant a special trip back to NY to claim it but it takes you longer than 45 days after the drawing to get back to NY...don't you know that you CANNOT claim that less than $500 winner at a retailer?!!!  You have to mail it in in order to claim it.  Now if we are talking about $20 or even $150, that is no big deal...just a little inconvenient.  But if we are talking about a mere $2 or $3 winning, then the cost of postage eats up a good chunk of that...almost like they don't want people to claim those small winnings by making it so nonsensical and inconvenient.  But hey, NY is home of the crooked Democrats...just wait till you see your accumulated tax bill over the next 3 years...then everyone will be begging for a Republican president.

      Obama's tax hikes are going to be stealthy...already they are cutting back the amount people can deduct for certain things.  They also are not going to do away with the AMT and next year it is slated to impact millions of middle class taxpayers...not the wealthy as it was originally intended.  A gas and energy tax hike is in the works...so that is going to impact EVERYBODY, not just those making over $250,000.  See, people just ate up everything Obama was spouting out during his campaign without THINKING about HOW he could make his grand plan come to pass.  Now Jesus was able to multiply a few pieces of bread and fish to feed a multitude of thousands...Obama the messiah can't just make money appear out of nowhere...he is going to have to dig into each and every Americans' pockets to pay for his grand plan...and we still will be in a larger deficit than his analysts project. 

      Just hold on for the ride....and vote with common sense in 2012:  JUST SAY NO TO ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF OBAMA/DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

      Get MONEY!!! Winning a JACKPOT lottery is all the HOPE and CHANGE I desire!!!  NOW give me MONEY!US Flag

      The guy who won the presidency in 2008 really won the lottery...he is now millions richer, travels in first class style, and even has a staff that would be the envy of the richest Powerball winner (she has a staff of 2). Every night he goes to sleep, he probably plays the close of Dave Chappelle's Show: I'm rich beyatch!

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        Posted: May 4, 2009, 1:18 pm - IP Logged

        Here's the Dateline expose on Lottery cheating/crimes: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/30550460#30550460

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          Posted: May 4, 2009, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

          I was glad to see Dateline NBC doing that little expose on the lottery cheats in California.  But I was blown away by how New York responded to Dateline's request to do a similar investigation there.  They actually put out an alert that was printed on all online tickets that Dateline is doing an investigation. 

          I would actually get a bit suspicious about multiple online winners as this could be a case of discounting (meaning the actual winner knows he/she owes back child support or taxes and doesn't want the winnings to be docked that amount, so they sell to the clerk/owner for a lesser amount so that both profit from the win).  The scratch off multiple winners are clearly fraudulent as shown by the Dateline NBC and California investigation. 

          This is another reason why I will not buy any lottery tickets in NY.  The other reasons is that they pay most things in annuities only (except for Mega, don't know about the NY Lotto).  The last reason is that should you happen to be passing through NY and purchase an online lottery ticket (Mega or Lotto), happen to buy a small dollar winner that doesn't warrant a special trip back to NY to claim it but it takes you longer than 45 days after the drawing to get back to NY...don't you know that you CANNOT claim that less than $500 winner at a retailer?!!!  You have to mail it in in order to claim it.  Now if we are talking about $20 or even $150, that is no big deal...just a little inconvenient.  But if we are talking about a mere $2 or $3 winning, then the cost of postage eats up a good chunk of that...almost like they don't want people to claim those small winnings by making it so nonsensical and inconvenient.  But hey, NY is home of the crooked Democrats...just wait till you see your accumulated tax bill over the next 3 years...then everyone will be begging for a Republican president.

          Obama's tax hikes are going to be stealthy...already they are cutting back the amount people can deduct for certain things.  They also are not going to do away with the AMT and next year it is slated to impact millions of middle class taxpayers...not the wealthy as it was originally intended.  A gas and energy tax hike is in the works...so that is going to impact EVERYBODY, not just those making over $250,000.  See, people just ate up everything Obama was spouting out during his campaign without THINKING about HOW he could make his grand plan come to pass.  Now Jesus was able to multiply a few pieces of bread and fish to feed a multitude of thousands...Obama the messiah can't just make money appear out of nowhere...he is going to have to dig into each and every Americans' pockets to pay for his grand plan...and we still will be in a larger deficit than his analysts project. 

          Just hold on for the ride....and vote with common sense in 2012:  JUST SAY NO TO ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF OBAMA/DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

          the  Obama  slamming  is  unjustifyed  , the  lottery  is  robbing  people  for  billions  each  week  and  we  fight  among  ourselves  over  pennies and  policy  beliefs.....

          the  store  clerks  cheat ,  this  has  been  well  established  all  over  the  country and  yet  in  NEW yORK 

          STATE  THE   the  director  of  lottery   made  sure NY  store  clerks   were  made  aware  of  the  sting  operations  and  disallowed  any  investagations  .....NOW  THATS  CROOCKED ....Bash

          the  vast  majority  of  the  stores  in  question  are  forign  nationals  and  in   low income  neighborhoods;

          these  are  the  same  people  who  are  behind  the   bank  crisses    for  failure  to  pay  back  loans ;

          People  think  America  is  made  of  money ......someone  wake  these  people  up;;;;;Mail For You


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            Posted: May 4, 2009, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

            I was glad to see Dateline NBC doing that little expose on the lottery cheats in California.  But I was blown away by how New York responded to Dateline's request to do a similar investigation there.  They actually put out an alert that was printed on all online tickets that Dateline is doing an investigation. 

            I would actually get a bit suspicious about multiple online winners as this could be a case of discounting (meaning the actual winner knows he/she owes back child support or taxes and doesn't want the winnings to be docked that amount, so they sell to the clerk/owner for a lesser amount so that both profit from the win).  The scratch off multiple winners are clearly fraudulent as shown by the Dateline NBC and California investigation. 

            This is another reason why I will not buy any lottery tickets in NY.  The other reasons is that they pay most things in annuities only (except for Mega, don't know about the NY Lotto).  The last reason is that should you happen to be passing through NY and purchase an online lottery ticket (Mega or Lotto), happen to buy a small dollar winner that doesn't warrant a special trip back to NY to claim it but it takes you longer than 45 days after the drawing to get back to NY...don't you know that you CANNOT claim that less than $500 winner at a retailer?!!!  You have to mail it in in order to claim it.  Now if we are talking about $20 or even $150, that is no big deal...just a little inconvenient.  But if we are talking about a mere $2 or $3 winning, then the cost of postage eats up a good chunk of that...almost like they don't want people to claim those small winnings by making it so nonsensical and inconvenient.  But hey, NY is home of the crooked Democrats...just wait till you see your accumulated tax bill over the next 3 years...then everyone will be begging for a Republican president.

            Obama's tax hikes are going to be stealthy...already they are cutting back the amount people can deduct for certain things.  They also are not going to do away with the AMT and next year it is slated to impact millions of middle class taxpayers...not the wealthy as it was originally intended.  A gas and energy tax hike is in the works...so that is going to impact EVERYBODY, not just those making over $250,000.  See, people just ate up everything Obama was spouting out during his campaign without THINKING about HOW he could make his grand plan come to pass.  Now Jesus was able to multiply a few pieces of bread and fish to feed a multitude of thousands...Obama the messiah can't just make money appear out of nowhere...he is going to have to dig into each and every Americans' pockets to pay for his grand plan...and we still will be in a larger deficit than his analysts project. 

            Just hold on for the ride....and vote with common sense in 2012:  JUST SAY NO TO ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF OBAMA/DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

            I Agree!

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              I hear ya loud and clear but did you have to shout at me! lolROFL

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                I was glad to see Dateline NBC doing that little expose on the lottery cheats in California.  But I was blown away by how New York responded to Dateline's request to do a similar investigation there.  They actually put out an alert that was printed on all online tickets that Dateline is doing an investigation. 

                I would actually get a bit suspicious about multiple online winners as this could be a case of discounting (meaning the actual winner knows he/she owes back child support or taxes and doesn't want the winnings to be docked that amount, so they sell to the clerk/owner for a lesser amount so that both profit from the win).  The scratch off multiple winners are clearly fraudulent as shown by the Dateline NBC and California investigation. 

                This is another reason why I will not buy any lottery tickets in NY.  The other reasons is that they pay most things in annuities only (except for Mega, don't know about the NY Lotto).  The last reason is that should you happen to be passing through NY and purchase an online lottery ticket (Mega or Lotto), happen to buy a small dollar winner that doesn't warrant a special trip back to NY to claim it but it takes you longer than 45 days after the drawing to get back to NY...don't you know that you CANNOT claim that less than $500 winner at a retailer?!!!  You have to mail it in in order to claim it.  Now if we are talking about $20 or even $150, that is no big deal...just a little inconvenient.  But if we are talking about a mere $2 or $3 winning, then the cost of postage eats up a good chunk of that...almost like they don't want people to claim those small winnings by making it so nonsensical and inconvenient.  But hey, NY is home of the crooked Democrats...just wait till you see your accumulated tax bill over the next 3 years...then everyone will be begging for a Republican president.

                Obama's tax hikes are going to be stealthy...already they are cutting back the amount people can deduct for certain things.  They also are not going to do away with the AMT and next year it is slated to impact millions of middle class taxpayers...not the wealthy as it was originally intended.  A gas and energy tax hike is in the works...so that is going to impact EVERYBODY, not just those making over $250,000.  See, people just ate up everything Obama was spouting out during his campaign without THINKING about HOW he could make his grand plan come to pass.  Now Jesus was able to multiply a few pieces of bread and fish to feed a multitude of thousands...Obama the messiah can't just make money appear out of nowhere...he is going to have to dig into each and every Americans' pockets to pay for his grand plan...and we still will be in a larger deficit than his analysts project. 

                Just hold on for the ride....and vote with common sense in 2012:  JUST SAY NO TO ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF OBAMA/DEMOCRAT LEADERSHIP!

                One thing for sure and a fact.  Under President Clinton we did not have a deficit we had plenty of money after 12 years of Republican rule.  He brought us into a great wealth and a great economy, we were living like kings and queens.  It took a Republican 8 years to bring us down to our knees.  If you like Republicans that is your choice, but there are many of us that do like Democrats and the way they Govern.  As far as being a dishonest person it does not just come from Democrats it comes from just being dishonest.

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                  I was in a store and this person who works in the store look at my ticket before I could scratch it off and was able to tell whether the ticket was a winner by looking at the some letters or numbers. At first I thought they was playing until everyone that they did was correct. I am not the only one that knows this goes on. I think its unfair and I don't buy lottery sratch off  tickets anymore because of that.

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                    Another nail in the coffin that goes agaibacknst NC palyers - There aren't any readable codes on the scratchers, therefore you can't verify whether or not you have a winner... I can't see all that well - and this is certainly a stab-pin-the-back... That's why I prefer scratching in VA at least it will give me a comforting code TWY = $20, TWF = $25, FTY = $50, HUN = $100, etc. etc.

                    WHERE ARE MY CODES NC???

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                    The only code I ever seen in N.C. was ONE = $1.00No Nod

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                      North Carolina Scratchers are worthless. If I found a penny laying on the street it would have more value than any nc scratch off....

                      I agree nc does needs codes like va.... when I drive to va to get my mega million tickets I always buy scratch off's there...

                      nc needs more games like pick 3 and pick 4....

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