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Posted: May 17, 2009, 1:49 pm - IP Logged

You know these kind of stories are always scary to me.  I mean, ANYONE could say "we had an agreement to split the winnings and I gave so and so xxx amount of dollars".....co-workers, so called friends, family, etc.  I mean how does the Lottery Commission handle these types of claims if there is nothing in writing?  I always play my own lottery and have never been a part of any pool or anything like that but let's say I happened to win a large amount of money.....who's to say someone couldn't come forward and say "we were suppose to split the winnings?"  How would the Lottery Commission handle this type of claim?

I was thinking the same thing.   ANYONE can say they had a verbal agreement once they find out a friend, relative, or coworker hit the big one.

 

Perhaps that is another reason why to clain the lotto anonymously or if the state doesn't allow that.   Do what the latest DC jackpot winner did and claim via a blind trust.

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    I saved a copy of an article I had read a few years ago on what to do should you win a large amount of money playing the lottery.  I think it sounds like pretty good advice, here's what it says.....

    Lottery Winners

    Strangely enough, winning millions in the lottery can be the worst thing that ever happened to you.  The money can strain relationships with your spouse and relatives.  It can turn your friends and neighbors into leeches.  It can ruin your privacy.  It can cause security problems, threaten your physical safety.  Paradoxically, it can lead you down the road to bankruptcy.

    And, of course, it can also turn you into a raging jerk.

    Tips for the Latest Instant Millionaire

    It's great to be rich, but fame comes with a price.  So your primary mission is to claim the money without divulging your identity or having a mental breakdown.  Here's how to do it:

    1.  Don't tell anyone.  The single most important rule for maintaining sanity after winning the lotter is:  Do everything you can to keep your precious anonymity intact.  Of course that means keeping your mouth shut.  Don't share the news with your friends, neighbors, co-workers, or family.  Resist even the urge to tell your spouse or significant other, at least for the time being.  Otherwise you will have forever blown your one chance at being anonymous.  You can always spill the beans later, after all the excitement has died down.

    2.  Don't sign the ticket.  After you write your name on that ticket, you might as well call up and announce the news to your local TV stations and newspapers.  Remember that the state lottery commission will publicize the identity of every claimant.  Toss the ticket into a clean Ziploc bag (to avoid spills, etc.) and temporarily stash it someplace away from excessive heat, sunlight, pets, children, roommates, co-workers, etc.  Make sure it's someplace safe that you won't forget.

    3.  Act casual.  Maintain your normal routine.  Continue to attend work, school, church, social functions, etc.  Whatever's typical for you.  When people ask you what's up, refer to rule number one.

    4.  Make a few photocopies.  At your earliest opportunity, take a trip to a 24-hour Kinko's around 2am when nobody's around and make six copies of the ticket, both front and back.  Use one of the self-serve machines and take any and all bad copies with you (i.e. leave none in the trash).  And before you leave, doublecheck to make sure you didn't leave the original in the machine.

    5.  Rent a safe-deposit box.  Contact your bank and see if they have any vacant safe deposit boxes, tell them you're going on a trip and need to store some documents for a few months.  Make a point of asking them how much it costs, even though you could care less.  You're trying to keep up appearances.  When you go down to the bank in person to open your box, you will probably need some ID and your bank card.  Bring the ticket, along with some other "fake" papers.  Don't show them the ticket, obviously.  Loose lips sink ships.  Stash the ticket in the box and put the box key on your keyring.  Don't lose the key.

    6.  Open a blind trust.  Hire a tax attorney.  Once you're a client, the lawyer is legally bound to maintain your confidentiality.  Tell them you want to open a blind trust in order to claim the lottery prize as an anonymous trustee.  Provide three photocopies of your ticket.  All contact with the lottery commission will be made through your lawyer.

    7.  Contact a financial planner.  Rich people don't tend to stay that way without a little planning.  If you have the choice between annual payments and a single large payout, you should consider the big jackpot.  It's less money total, but it's probably about the same as the annuity if you take the lump sum and invest it in interest-bearing savings bonds.  However, the single large payout may incur a higher tax rate.  Ask your tax experts.

    8.  Tie up any financial loose ends.  No reason to procrastinate now.  Pay all those traffic fines and parking tickets.  Catch up on alimony or child support payments.  Settle any debts.  Instruct your financial planner to scrub those black marks off your credit score, but don't cancel your credit cards -- that'll screw up your rating.  And don't think it won't matter anymore.  It matters.

    9.  Draft or update your last will and testament.  If there were ever a time for estate planning, it's now.

    10.  Move away.  And not just out of town.  We're talking out of state, possibly out of the country.  You can't expect to keep a lid on your secret forever; information wants to be free.  Maybe buy a modest house with a good alarm system in a gated community with a private security force.  That ought to minimize the solicitors at your door.  Also be sure to get an unlisted phone number.

    Now you can finally enjoy all that wealth in peace.  Go ahead and spluge.  Get yourself a P.O. Box.  Anyway, that's what all the hip millionaires do.  Seriously.

    ***I thought this all sounded like very good advice!

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      Posted: May 17, 2009, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

      I almost won the megamillions on friday.I won 3 numbers and 3 out of 5 + the megaball,not bad for a $2 bet,next time i will win the jackpot i can feel it, i use statistic when i play lotto. It'a good think i didn't have to share with someone :)

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        Posted: May 18, 2009, 9:48 am - IP Logged

        I saved a copy of an article I had read a few years ago on what to do should you win a large amount of money playing the lottery.  I think it sounds like pretty good advice, here's what it says.....

        Lottery Winners

        Strangely enough, winning millions in the lottery can be the worst thing that ever happened to you.  The money can strain relationships with your spouse and relatives.  It can turn your friends and neighbors into leeches.  It can ruin your privacy.  It can cause security problems, threaten your physical safety.  Paradoxically, it can lead you down the road to bankruptcy.

        And, of course, it can also turn you into a raging jerk.

        Tips for the Latest Instant Millionaire

        It's great to be rich, but fame comes with a price.  So your primary mission is to claim the money without divulging your identity or having a mental breakdown.  Here's how to do it:

        1.  Don't tell anyone.  The single most important rule for maintaining sanity after winning the lotter is:  Do everything you can to keep your precious anonymity intact.  Of course that means keeping your mouth shut.  Don't share the news with your friends, neighbors, co-workers, or family.  Resist even the urge to tell your spouse or significant other, at least for the time being.  Otherwise you will have forever blown your one chance at being anonymous.  You can always spill the beans later, after all the excitement has died down.

        2.  Don't sign the ticket.  After you write your name on that ticket, you might as well call up and announce the news to your local TV stations and newspapers.  Remember that the state lottery commission will publicize the identity of every claimant.  Toss the ticket into a clean Ziploc bag (to avoid spills, etc.) and temporarily stash it someplace away from excessive heat, sunlight, pets, children, roommates, co-workers, etc.  Make sure it's someplace safe that you won't forget.

        3.  Act casual.  Maintain your normal routine.  Continue to attend work, school, church, social functions, etc.  Whatever's typical for you.  When people ask you what's up, refer to rule number one.

        4.  Make a few photocopies.  At your earliest opportunity, take a trip to a 24-hour Kinko's around 2am when nobody's around and make six copies of the ticket, both front and back.  Use one of the self-serve machines and take any and all bad copies with you (i.e. leave none in the trash).  And before you leave, doublecheck to make sure you didn't leave the original in the machine.

        5.  Rent a safe-deposit box.  Contact your bank and see if they have any vacant safe deposit boxes, tell them you're going on a trip and need to store some documents for a few months.  Make a point of asking them how much it costs, even though you could care less.  You're trying to keep up appearances.  When you go down to the bank in person to open your box, you will probably need some ID and your bank card.  Bring the ticket, along with some other "fake" papers.  Don't show them the ticket, obviously.  Loose lips sink ships.  Stash the ticket in the box and put the box key on your keyring.  Don't lose the key.

        6.  Open a blind trust.  Hire a tax attorney.  Once you're a client, the lawyer is legally bound to maintain your confidentiality.  Tell them you want to open a blind trust in order to claim the lottery prize as an anonymous trustee.  Provide three photocopies of your ticket.  All contact with the lottery commission will be made through your lawyer.

        7.  Contact a financial planner.  Rich people don't tend to stay that way without a little planning.  If you have the choice between annual payments and a single large payout, you should consider the big jackpot.  It's less money total, but it's probably about the same as the annuity if you take the lump sum and invest it in interest-bearing savings bonds.  However, the single large payout may incur a higher tax rate.  Ask your tax experts.

        8.  Tie up any financial loose ends.  No reason to procrastinate now.  Pay all those traffic fines and parking tickets.  Catch up on alimony or child support payments.  Settle any debts.  Instruct your financial planner to scrub those black marks off your credit score, but don't cancel your credit cards -- that'll screw up your rating.  And don't think it won't matter anymore.  It matters.

        9.  Draft or update your last will and testament.  If there were ever a time for estate planning, it's now.

        10.  Move away.  And not just out of town.  We're talking out of state, possibly out of the country.  You can't expect to keep a lid on your secret forever; information wants to be free.  Maybe buy a modest house with a good alarm system in a gated community with a private security force.  That ought to minimize the solicitors at your door.  Also be sure to get an unlisted phone number.

        Now you can finally enjoy all that wealth in peace.  Go ahead and spluge.  Get yourself a P.O. Box.  Anyway, that's what all the hip millionaires do.  Seriously.

        ***I thought this all sounded like very good advice!

        I can't say I agree with not signing the ticket.  What if someone else finds it?? there's no way in H E double hockey sticks I would put it even in a safe deposit box without my John Han<snip> on it.

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          Martins says Nascimento and his wife collected a check for $700,000 after taxes. Martins says his friend offered to give him $375.

          At least his friend offered to refund 5 weeks of payments.  Their trial is today, I wonder it that will be considered in the resolution of their case.

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            Posted: May 18, 2009, 2:10 pm - IP Logged

            Type...would love to see the lawyer bills after this one

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              I can't say I agree with not signing the ticket.  What if someone else finds it?? there's no way in H E double hockey sticks I would put it even in a safe deposit box without my John Han<snip> on it.

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              Good point.   It might be a good idea to SIGN all lottery tickets at the time of purchase whether you have won or not.  You don't wanna risk losing the ticket.

              When it comes to claiming a ticket.....all the lottery officials care about is that of the signiture on the back of the ticket.   They will verify that the ticket is legit and that's about it.  But in the long-run I don't think no one cares who actually purchases the ticket.   If that was the case.....the lottery player's contact info would be obtained beforehand at the time of purchase(phone number, address, name, etc..). rather than at the time of claim.

              If someone finds a ticket on the ground at some random place....as long as it isn't sign.....it's finders keepers really.

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                Contract people, contracts! :D


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                  It funny what people promise they going to do if they win, but when they do win its actually become another story. For real. I think people dream of so many big stuff as they playing the lottery, but I ask myself" Will they do it if its become a reality" I, myself kept dreaming that if I win the lottery I will buy sport car like Lamboghini, ferrari and mclaren. I think once you have the money, you will be cheap with it because one will not let it finish. It would be a nice thing to win the lottery though, but with the odds of winning the jackpot of the megamillion which is 1 out of 175,000,0000 is 99.99% impossible. Statisticly speaking someone will win the jackpot because the probability is atleast 1. I play the lottery for fun and if i happen to win the jackpot I'll be bless, but for those people out there spending all their money is out of their mind. I will not spend more than two dollar on lottery ticket unless it went up to 100 to 200 mill i'll spend 3 bucks. But those folks spending a hundred need to see a gamble counselor.

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                    Money is the root of all evil.  Play by yourself.  If you win then only your nagging family you have to deal with.

                    Why is it that most everyone who has a negative view about money get this saying TOTALLY WRONG?!!!

                    Money IS NOT the root of all evil...otherwise we wouldn't have something like that that is so central and essential for exchange of goods and services.

                    For those who don't know, the Holy Bible says in 1 Timothy 6:10 "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

                    It is the LOVE of MONEY that is the problem, not the money itself!  The love of the money will cause people to cheat, steal, kill, prostitute, and deal just to get it.

                    Now that is set straight, I do agree about playing lottery by oneself and AVOIDING any semblance of a pool at all costs.  I even go so far as to say to those who might think I would share with them that I THINK about them wherever I am enjoying MY millions!  The only person I would share my winnings with is just my closest brother...not even my mom or wife would know about my win (Mom's can't keep a secret and wifey doesn't believe in playing the lottery....but she would gladly spend any winnings from lottery...I don't get that reasoning!).

                    Get MONEY!!! Winning a JACKPOT lottery is all the HOPE and CHANGE I desire!!!  NOW give me MONEY!US Flag

                    The guy who won the presidency in 2008 really won the lottery...he is now millions richer, travels in first class style, and even has a staff that would be the envy of the richest Powerball winner (she has a staff of 2). Every night he goes to sleep, he probably plays the close of Dave Chappelle's Show: I'm rich beyatch!

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                      Posted: June 17, 2009, 7:36 pm - IP Logged

                      I saved a copy of an article I had read a few years ago on what to do should you win a large amount of money playing the lottery.  I think it sounds like pretty good advice, here's what it says.....

                      Lottery Winners

                      Strangely enough, winning millions in the lottery can be the worst thing that ever happened to you.  The money can strain relationships with your spouse and relatives.  It can turn your friends and neighbors into leeches.  It can ruin your privacy.  It can cause security problems, threaten your physical safety.  Paradoxically, it can lead you down the road to bankruptcy.

                      And, of course, it can also turn you into a raging jerk.

                      Tips for the Latest Instant Millionaire

                      It's great to be rich, but fame comes with a price.  So your primary mission is to claim the money without divulging your identity or having a mental breakdown.  Here's how to do it:

                      1.  Don't tell anyone.  The single most important rule for maintaining sanity after winning the lotter is:  Do everything you can to keep your precious anonymity intact.  Of course that means keeping your mouth shut.  Don't share the news with your friends, neighbors, co-workers, or family.  Resist even the urge to tell your spouse or significant other, at least for the time being.  Otherwise you will have forever blown your one chance at being anonymous.  You can always spill the beans later, after all the excitement has died down.

                      2.  Don't sign the ticket.  After you write your name on that ticket, you might as well call up and announce the news to your local TV stations and newspapers.  Remember that the state lottery commission will publicize the identity of every claimant.  Toss the ticket into a clean Ziploc bag (to avoid spills, etc.) and temporarily stash it someplace away from excessive heat, sunlight, pets, children, roommates, co-workers, etc.  Make sure it's someplace safe that you won't forget.

                      3.  Act casual.  Maintain your normal routine.  Continue to attend work, school, church, social functions, etc.  Whatever's typical for you.  When people ask you what's up, refer to rule number one.

                      4.  Make a few photocopies.  At your earliest opportunity, take a trip to a 24-hour Kinko's around 2am when nobody's around and make six copies of the ticket, both front and back.  Use one of the self-serve machines and take any and all bad copies with you (i.e. leave none in the trash).  And before you leave, doublecheck to make sure you didn't leave the original in the machine.

                      5.  Rent a safe-deposit box.  Contact your bank and see if they have any vacant safe deposit boxes, tell them you're going on a trip and need to store some documents for a few months.  Make a point of asking them how much it costs, even though you could care less.  You're trying to keep up appearances.  When you go down to the bank in person to open your box, you will probably need some ID and your bank card.  Bring the ticket, along with some other "fake" papers.  Don't show them the ticket, obviously.  Loose lips sink ships.  Stash the ticket in the box and put the box key on your keyring.  Don't lose the key.

                      6.  Open a blind trust.  Hire a tax attorney.  Once you're a client, the lawyer is legally bound to maintain your confidentiality.  Tell them you want to open a blind trust in order to claim the lottery prize as an anonymous trustee.  Provide three photocopies of your ticket.  All contact with the lottery commission will be made through your lawyer.

                      7.  Contact a financial planner.  Rich people don't tend to stay that way without a little planning.  If you have the choice between annual payments and a single large payout, you should consider the big jackpot.  It's less money total, but it's probably about the same as the annuity if you take the lump sum and invest it in interest-bearing savings bonds.  However, the single large payout may incur a higher tax rate.  Ask your tax experts.

                      8.  Tie up any financial loose ends.  No reason to procrastinate now.  Pay all those traffic fines and parking tickets.  Catch up on alimony or child support payments.  Settle any debts.  Instruct your financial planner to scrub those black marks off your credit score, but don't cancel your credit cards -- that'll screw up your rating.  And don't think it won't matter anymore.  It matters.

                      9.  Draft or update your last will and testament.  If there were ever a time for estate planning, it's now.

                      10.  Move away.  And not just out of town.  We're talking out of state, possibly out of the country.  You can't expect to keep a lid on your secret forever; information wants to be free.  Maybe buy a modest house with a good alarm system in a gated community with a private security force.  That ought to minimize the solicitors at your door.  Also be sure to get an unlisted phone number.

                      Now you can finally enjoy all that wealth in peace.  Go ahead and spluge.  Get yourself a P.O. Box.  Anyway, that's what all the hip millionaires do.  Seriously.

                      ***I thought this all sounded like very good advice!

                      "10.  Move away.  And not just out of town.  We're talking out of state, possibly out of the country.  You can't expect to keep a lid on your secret forever; information wants to be free.  Maybe buy a modest house with a good alarm system in a gated community with a private security force.  That ought to minimize the solicitors at your door.  Also be sure to get an unlisted phone number."

                       

                      This advice isn't as extreme as it may seem.   In a lot of cases, this would be good advice.

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                        Something I would certainly look into and have thought of, though I don't know if I would want to deal with a Home Owners Association or restrictions that a gated community would likely have. It all depends on the jackpot amount though as to which way I would go. The most important thing though is to just not make a spectacle of yourself and excessively show off your riches. Yeah, I say riches because there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Personally I'd use the money to become wealthy instead of just rich.

                        You can't predict random.


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                          Something I would certainly look into and have thought of, though I don't know if I would want to deal with a Home Owners Association or restrictions that a gated community would likely have. It all depends on the jackpot amount though as to which way I would go. The most important thing though is to just not make a spectacle of yourself and excessively show off your riches. Yeah, I say riches because there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Personally I'd use the money to become wealthy instead of just rich.

                          Where is the line between rich and wealthy?

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                            Something I would certainly look into and have thought of, though I don't know if I would want to deal with a Home Owners Association or restrictions that a gated community would likely have. It all depends on the jackpot amount though as to which way I would go. The most important thing though is to just not make a spectacle of yourself and excessively show off your riches. Yeah, I say riches because there's a difference between being rich and being wealthy. Personally I'd use the money to become wealthy instead of just rich.

                            Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't moving into a high end gated comunity combined with various other issues of instant wealth ... how one florida couple went nearly broke ??

                            don't recall the name but I do believe I saw it on of them :" curse of the lottery" programs

                            I know for myself the thought of living ingated community not to mention related dues and such bylaws seem like tooo much trouble


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                              Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't moving into a high end gated comunity combined with various other issues of instant wealth ... how one florida couple went nearly broke ??

                              don't recall the name but I do believe I saw it on of them :" curse of the lottery" programs

                              I know for myself the thought of living ingated community not to mention related dues and such bylaws seem like tooo much trouble

                              That was David Edwards.He could be the poster child of what not to do with your lottery winnings.