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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: October 23, 2010, 1:46 pm - IP Logged

Oogle

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

 

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    you are right but if you win big the groverment take thiers off the top then they want to take more what is wrong with this picture


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      Delta Draw, you apparently have no clue, because everything you said is backwards from reality.  To say that Conservatives want to "tax and spend" ... I'm not sure what rock you've been hiding under, but that is preposterous.  Your whole diatribe is filled with these backwards concepts that are disconnected from reality.

      fair enough, time will tell.

      Reality is what it is for you.

       Did not John McCain say the economy was healthy a few months before blind bail-outs were paid by W? What a nice departing gift W gave and it was at the general public's expense. How can W cover the bad loans and people still owe the Banks?

      "Now what is all this talk that the Dem’s are the tax and spend demons? This is from spend and tax conservatives." DD

      Conservatives want to SPEND and TAX. That is what I wrote and you got that bassackwards. It is preposterous for you to spin it otherwise. That kind of twisted spin is like the lies you buy from Neocons like Karl Rove. His business plan will destroy this country and the money has been rolling into the TEA party from offshore. Foriegn countries are now the lobbiests with corporate representation paying for campaign ads. The states are bankrupt. The country is bankrupt. When you wake up and smell the coffee, all it will be is rerun grounds from an espresso bar.

      139 bank failures for 2010 as of yesterday. Spin that! Do you even know how many failed last year? This decade?

      DD

      Right now there is conflict between the two biggest media whores. It is not about right and left, there will only be one standing when the dust clears. The economies of other countries are influencing our media- the Arabs have FOX. Beck goes after Soros at the call of his masters, a NPR reporter gets fired and is hired by who? Your reality is a flagrant violation of reality. The big money is non-partisan, they are mono partisan.

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        fair enough, time will tell.

        Reality is what it is for you.

         Did not John McCain say the economy was healthy a few months before blind bail-outs were paid by W? What a nice departing gift W gave and it was at the general public's expense. How can W cover the bad loans and people still owe the Banks?

        "Now what is all this talk that the Dem’s are the tax and spend demons? This is from spend and tax conservatives." DD

        Conservatives want to SPEND and TAX. That is what I wrote and you got that bassackwards. It is preposterous for you to spin it otherwise. That kind of twisted spin is like the lies you buy from Neocons like Karl Rove. His business plan will destroy this country and the money has been rolling into the TEA party from offshore. Foriegn countries are now the lobbiests with corporate representation paying for campaign ads. The states are bankrupt. The country is bankrupt. When you wake up and smell the coffee, all it will be is rerun grounds from an espresso bar.

        139 bank failures for 2010 as of yesterday. Spin that! Do you even know how many failed last year? This decade?

        DD

        Right now there is conflict between the two biggest media whores. It is not about right and left, there will only be one standing when the dust clears. The economies of other countries are influencing our media- the Arabs have FOX. Beck goes after Soros at the call of his masters, a NPR reporter gets fired and is hired by who? Your reality is a flagrant violation of reality. The big money is non-partisan, they are mono partisan.

        Methinks you err in considering Conservatives and Republicans to be cut from the same cloth and one and the same politically. 

        I find them more often these days to be mutually exclusive.

        Hence, the Tea Party.

         

        Have you ever tried posting when you're sober?


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          Methinks you err in considering Conservatives and Republicans to be cut from the same cloth and one and the same politically. 

          I find them more often these days to be mutually exclusive.

          Hence, the Tea Party.

           

          Have you ever tried posting when you're sober?

          RR,

          I am and was quite sober, but nice shot at my credibility.

           You fail to see this Welfare reform was introduced by REPUBLICANS who’s last stand in the Whitehouse gave us SPEND and then TAX economics including private sector WAR economics. The big three were in DC before the election results and had appointment the day after the election (with their hats in their hands) for a bailout. The first of many under W’s last days. The REPUBLICANS nationalized corporate America. Who pays the bill? “Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

          As for the Republicans and Democrats being cut from the same cloth, yes they are when the y are brought into the CFR: Council on Foreign Relations. The preparation is already in place to bring in so-called TEA’s who are elected with the helps of their deep pocket sponsors. The bribe.

           

          As for the TEA party, it is a pipe dream and the shades of grey in what defines a conservative is quite apparent in the actions and speech of Sarah Palin. Palin has spent a fortune on advisers that go back to the Nixon administration. She is on her own and a flash in the pan. She serves a purpose in the confusion between what is TEA and what is Republican. She switch-hits for her own glory and the result is a divided right that is now not becoming more conservative, but harder right toward fascism. The TEA’s were not Republicans at the onset, they are Libertarians at the core. Don't be surprised if Palin starts quoting Barry Goldwater.

          Palin will spend herself into the poorhouse because the advisors are REPUBLICANS, and she is serving a purpose to divide conservative citizens rather than the perception of unifying them under one of two banners. Nationalisn (FASCISM) is the underlying theme and the pupose Palin blindly serves without knowledge.

          Your TEA Party was hijacked and bought out. The only thing left from it is the idealism. Dream on Dude.

          Respectfully,

          DD

          My condolences to you at this time of personal loss.

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            RR,

            I am and was quite sober, but nice shot at my credibility.

             You fail to see this Welfare reform was introduced by REPUBLICANS who’s last stand in the Whitehouse gave us SPEND and then TAX economics including private sector WAR economics. The big three were in DC before the election results and had appointment the day after the election (with their hats in their hands) for a bailout. The first of many under W’s last days. The REPUBLICANS nationalized corporate America. Who pays the bill? “Fascists seek to organize a nation according to corporatist perspectives, values, and systems, including the political system and the economy.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

            As for the Republicans and Democrats being cut from the same cloth, yes they are when the y are brought into the CFR: Council on Foreign Relations. The preparation is already in place to bring in so-called TEA’s who are elected with the helps of their deep pocket sponsors. The bribe.

             

            As for the TEA party, it is a pipe dream and the shades of grey in what defines a conservative is quite apparent in the actions and speech of Sarah Palin. Palin has spent a fortune on advisers that go back to the Nixon administration. She is on her own and a flash in the pan. She serves a purpose in the confusion between what is TEA and what is Republican. She switch-hits for her own glory and the result is a divided right that is now not becoming more conservative, but harder right toward fascism. The TEA’s were not Republicans at the onset, they are Libertarians at the core. Don't be surprised if Palin starts quoting Barry Goldwater.

            Palin will spend herself into the poorhouse because the advisors are REPUBLICANS, and she is serving a purpose to divide conservative citizens rather than the perception of unifying them under one of two banners. Nationalisn (FASCISM) is the underlying theme and the pupose Palin blindly serves without knowledge.

            Your TEA Party was hijacked and bought out. The only thing left from it is the idealism. Dream on Dude.

            Respectfully,

            DD

            My condolences to you at this time of personal loss.

            It's heartening to hear of your recent sobriety.

            That claim notwithstanding though, I still find it difficult to follow your line of reasoning. Half of the time it seems as if you're preaching to the choir and the other half of the time it seems as if you're preaching to the choir. If that sounds redundant it's because you appear to be preaching to two different choirs. You're all over the map attributing things to one group that belong to another and so forth. It's not even possible to be a devil's advocate against someone whose firmly planted themself on both sides of the fence. 

            You hi-lite and accentuate the fact that Welfare Reform was introduced by the Republicans as if that was a bad thing. Yes, they introduced it and passed it and dragged a kicking and screaming Slick Willy Clinton in to sign it. He now brags about it like it was his idea just like the balanced budget he fought against and then claimed as his own idea. Let's all toast Willy and have a cigar (Not one of yours though Slick, thanks anyway).

            You belabor the Republicans for big taxes when it's the Democrats who do that. Remember the "Bush Tax Cuts" that Obama and the Democrats want to end on this coming January 1st? The "Bush Tax Cuts" cut taxes for everybody,  not just the rich as the Democrats like to lie about. That's a fact, Jack. So you have it backwards on that point. It's Democrats who like to raise taxes and Republicans who cut them. Work on that, will ya?

            The Obama campaign asked the Bush Administration to put the wheels in motion on the Auto Bailout after the election and I bet you knew that. If you expect me to defend Bush though, you'll have a very long wait - an eternity, actually. 

            I never said anything about Republicans and Democrats being cut or not cut from the same cloth - I said Republicans and Conservatives were not necessarily cut from the same cloth. There are far too many RINO's (Republicans in name only) who may as well be Democrats the way they lie and sell out. I would rather lose an election voting for a true Conservative than win with a RINO.

            You said the Republicans nationalized corporate America? What? Who?

            It is clear you have zero  understanding of the Tea Party and very little of Sarah Palin. I just can't make any sense out of your fear of her. What is it about her taking on the corrupt Republicans in Alaska and defeating them and turning Alaska around into an efficiently run, effectively governed state that actually returns tax revenues and state income to it's citizens instead of looking for something new to spend it on and borrowing even more? What is it about that that scares you so much?  I'd like to know which left-wing hate blog you get your info from on those two issues which inspire such fear on your part. That way I could go there and see where you're going wrong relaying the lies they tell you.

            You are right to a certain extent about the Tea Party being hijacked though. The Democrats in Nevada have put up a fake "tea party" candidate to run in the Harry Reid - Sharonn Angle race. They are lying and cheating as usual to win the race for the slimy weasel Harry Reid. The fake "tea party" candidate is now polling about 2% among uninformed and misinformed voters who want to support the real Tea Party, which could possibly be enough to throw the honest election results out the window and give Reid the win. They are doing this in many races all over the country. It's pretty bad when you have to lie and cheat to win elections but that's what Democrats do.

            So I think you may need to loosen up that tin foil hat just a little bit and get your info from more than the few narrow minded hate-blogs you seem to be frequenting.

            Because as long as you're dancing for and marching to the drumbeat of George Soros with all his other mind-numbed robots who think it's trendy and fashionable to hate this country - as long as you're drinking the left-wing Kool-Aid and spouting the gospel of socialism and anti-Americanism, I'll stand against you.

            Thank you for the condolences.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

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              fair enough, time will tell.

              Reality is what it is for you.

               Did not John McCain say the economy was healthy a few months before blind bail-outs were paid by W? What a nice departing gift W gave and it was at the general public's expense. How can W cover the bad loans and people still owe the Banks?

              "Now what is all this talk that the Dem’s are the tax and spend demons? This is from spend and tax conservatives." DD

              Conservatives want to SPEND and TAX. That is what I wrote and you got that bassackwards. It is preposterous for you to spin it otherwise. That kind of twisted spin is like the lies you buy from Neocons like Karl Rove. His business plan will destroy this country and the money has been rolling into the TEA party from offshore. Foriegn countries are now the lobbiests with corporate representation paying for campaign ads. The states are bankrupt. The country is bankrupt. When you wake up and smell the coffee, all it will be is rerun grounds from an espresso bar.

              139 bank failures for 2010 as of yesterday. Spin that! Do you even know how many failed last year? This decade?

              DD

              Right now there is conflict between the two biggest media whores. It is not about right and left, there will only be one standing when the dust clears. The economies of other countries are influencing our media- the Arabs have FOX. Beck goes after Soros at the call of his masters, a NPR reporter gets fired and is hired by who? Your reality is a flagrant violation of reality. The big money is non-partisan, they are mono partisan.

              I almost fell off my chair when I read your statements.  Did I HONESTLY read that right?  The REPUBLICANS want to spend and tax??

              1. I don't think it was Bush who created a stimulus bill that cost more than the war.  Nope, it was Obama.  Obama's "porkulus bill" cost $100 billion dollars, 15% more than the 8 YEAR WAR.

              http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Little-known-fact-Obamas-failed-stimulus-program-cost-more-than-the-Iraq-war-101302919.html

              2.  Bush didn't create a so called "health care reform bill" during a flipping recession.  Nope, that was Obama too!  Oh, and this "bill" will cost us $940 billion dollars.

              http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/mar2010/pi20100322_662113.htm

              Did you also know that in that healthcare reform bill that "they just had to pass, we'll read it later" (according to Nancy Pelosi, that it is now a requirement for your employer to put what they pay for your healthcare benefits on YOUR w-2 and that "at this time" you're not taxed on it as income. Gee, I wonder what's coming next year?  They claim we won't be taxed on it.  Then why put it on my w-2 at all?

              http://www.factcheck.org/2010/05/health-care-law-and-w-2-forms/

              3.  WHAT ABOUT THE NEW BILL THAT IT'S THE WORKS THAT OBAMA WANTS A 1% FEE ON EVERY BANK TRANSACTION?!?!?  BILL HR4646 

              http://www.ohiofreepress.com/general/2010/h.r.4646-1-tax-transactions-financial-institution/

               

               

              Sorry, Delta, but I think you need to get your head out of the sand and open your eyes.  We are in a recession and these Democrats think America can just keep spending and spending.  ENOUGH!


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                Okay, I know when I'm licked,.....all over.

                One thing that is heard from both sides of the isle is that America is a great Democracy.

                You Betcha!

                DD

                You are most welcome Sir.

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                  Okay, I know when I'm licked,.....all over.

                  One thing that is heard from both sides of the isle is that America is a great Democracy.

                  You Betcha!

                  DD

                  You are most welcome Sir.

                  What a way to avoid proving your point.  You came raging on this thread, all about how it's the Republicans that are the spenders...yet, when faced with the hard facts about Obama's spending, not a peep....interesting.

                   

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                    All They Have To Do Is Take The Tickets To The Arabs And They Will Cash It.  I Know Someone Who hit for $30,000 And The Arabs Cashed for a small fee wheras if they would have went to lansing they would have saw $0.

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                      Never been on it and I have no problem with someone on any government assistance spending one or two bucks every once in awhile on the lottery, people who spend more and play excessively though? I doubt the percentage is so high that everyone needs to be punished. BTW, why do we still call it food stamps? I haven't seen any exchange of stamps ever (yes, way before my time) and the monopoly money in the booklets has been gone for years and years.. People get a card now. Besides that, if someone is on some sort of government assistance program, they already do have to pay it back if they win a substantial amount but I wouldn't be opposed to adding a fair amount of interest....

                      McMillin said his goal is to keep people in need from wasting money.

                      "They should save it and buy some clothes and food � and make sure they're looking good when they go out for a job interview," McMillin said.


                      Wow, this guy is a idiotic, presumptuous, judgmental ass and if he was in my district I'd attempt to tell him that to his face, but that shouldn't be surprising given he's one of our "wonderful" politicians here in Michigan. My goal is for the State of Michigan to stop wasting money, we could fix that by getting rid of these idiots, unfortunately that won't happen... Apparently he's never heard of the "working poor" which pretty much encompasses a large portion jobs that are left in this state with businesses getting chased out of it. Oh and yeah, if they want a job interview for something that pays well, the best thing they can do is save whatever money they get and move the **** out of Michigan like many already have along with various companies. His calling out Welfare recipients is ironic since he and the rest of the clowns in Lansing are the biggest recipients in the state, falling perfectly into the do nothing stereotype since they haven't done a <snip> thing to earn a nickle of their salary in over 30 years.

                      Michigan's unemployment is reported currently at 13% (Granholm is proud of this for some reason, I guess maybe because Nevada took over the number one spot) so IDK, maybe instead of wasting time and tax payer money playing with BS legislation such as this they could, oh I don't know... Actually work on saving the jobs that are left while inciting businesses to come back or people to start their own.  Nah, it's an election year and they need some diversionary legislation to try and distract people from how they all deserve to be fired. Never mind that number dropping is misleading...
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                        Saying that Republicans tax and spend is patently ridiculous. They may spend like drunken sailors, but as good, patriotic Americans, they fund much of their spending by borrowing the money. That makes it much easier for them to keep a straight face when they claim they're reducing your taxes and that  they're better for you than "tax and spend Democrats". In reality, they're like somebody who buys a car with 5 year loan and claims they're saving money  because the monthly payment is a few bucks less than if they took a 4 year loan. Sure, the monthly bill is a bit smaller, but the final cost is far more because it costs more when you borrow the money.

                        As far as who actually spends more money, there are a million ways to spin the numbers, but comparing spending to GDP gives an honest picture of what's happening. Here's a graph from USspending.com that shows spending since 1950, which let's us compare spending under various administrations: http://tinyurl.com/2wtwgrf  Here's what that shows us:

                        - Eisenhower: sharp increase, followed by brief decline, and another increase. Finishes about 20% higher than at start of administration.
                        - JFK, LBJ: short increase, followed by decline, ending with an increase. Finishes about 7% higher than at start.
                        - Nixon, Ford: increase, decline, increase. Finishes about 13% higher than at start.
                        - Carter: 3 years of decline followed by one year increase. Finishes about 2% lower than at start.
                        - Reagan: starts with about an 11% increase, followed by decline, increase, decline, and ends with an increase. Finishes about 3% higher than at start.
                        - Bush 1: Continues Reagan increase for 2 years (+ 6.6%), then declines for 2 years. Finishes about 4% higher than at start.
                        - Clinton: 1 year decline and 1 year increase foillowed by 5 years of decline, finishing with an increase. Finishes about  6.6% lower than at start.
                        - Bush 2: 2 year increase, fairly steady for 4 years, finishing with  2 years of sharp increase. Finishes nearly 25% higher than at start.
                        Obama: increase so far, finishing about 4% higher than at start.

                        Summarizing, there have been only two administrations that saw overall decreases in spending, which were Carter and Clinton. The average change for all Democratic administrations was an increase of less than 1%. Every Republican administration presided over individual increases, with an average increase under Republican administrations of 13%.

                        How was all that spending paid for? I don't have info going back that far, but the Heritage Foundation has it for Clinton and Bush 2
                        ( http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2010/06/federal-spending-by-the-numbers-2010 ). Under Clinton the total spending (in inflation-adjusted dollars) was $17.322 trillion. Clinton eliminated the deficit he inherited from Bush 1, and had a surplus in the last 4 years of his administration. Overall, 97% of Clinton's spending was actually paid for with revenue that was collected. Total spending under Bush 2 was $21.618 trillion (in the same inflation-adjusted dollars), but slightly less than 90% of it was actually paid for with revenue collected.

                        Democrats tax and spend. Republicans borrow, and spend more.

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                          "it's one of many ways to get off the system"

                          So how many  people on welfare have gotten off of welfare by playing the lottery? And how much did people on welfare have to spend in order to do that? That's the important part, which you must not understand. Having a handfull of people on welfare save taxpayers a few million dollars doesn't actualy help the taxpayers if they spent more than twice as much of our tax dollars as they save us by no longer collecting welfare. Make no mistake, that's how it works if somebody on welfare wins the lottery. Lottery prizes that  would get somebody off of welfare pay back less than 50 cents on the dollar, so the best possible outcome is that taxpayers save 50 cents for every tax dollar that those on welfare spend on tickets. Justifying it by saying they do it to try to get off welfare makes no more sense than saying the same thing if they rob a bank.

                          "if they would open their eyes they could see that you are one of the ones that has paid your taxes and now you need help."

                          The problem isn't getting assistance when you're down on your luck.  The problem is getting assistance that you don't need, and the plain fact is that if you can afford to spend money on a candy bar or a lottery ticket then you don't need as much help as you're geting to pay for the essentials that you actually need. I've got no problem paying a few bucks more in taxes so that people have a roof over their heads and don't go hungry. I do have a problem with paying more in taxes so that somebody doesn't have to stop buying lottery tickets. People can BS and delude themselves all they want, but that's exactly what some people here are trying to justify.

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                            "it's one of many ways to get off the system"

                            So how many  people on welfare have gotten off of welfare by playing the lottery? And how much did people on welfare have to spend in order to do that? That's the important part, which you must not understand. Having a handfull of people on welfare save taxpayers a few million dollars doesn't actualy help the taxpayers if they spent more than twice as much of our tax dollars as they save us by no longer collecting welfare. Make no mistake, that's how it works if somebody on welfare wins the lottery. Lottery prizes that  would get somebody off of welfare pay back less than 50 cents on the dollar, so the best possible outcome is that taxpayers save 50 cents for every tax dollar that those on welfare spend on tickets. Justifying it by saying they do it to try to get off welfare makes no more sense than saying the same thing if they rob a bank.

                            "if they would open their eyes they could see that you are one of the ones that has paid your taxes and now you need help."

                            The problem isn't getting assistance when you're down on your luck.  The problem is getting assistance that you don't need, and the plain fact is that if you can afford to spend money on a candy bar or a lottery ticket then you don't need as much help as you're geting to pay for the essentials that you actually need. I've got no problem paying a few bucks more in taxes so that people have a roof over their heads and don't go hungry. I do have a problem with paying more in taxes so that somebody doesn't have to stop buying lottery tickets. People can BS and delude themselves all they want, but that's exactly what some people here are trying to justify.

                            FYI, a candy bar can be bought with food stamps.  LOL (no out of pocket expense there!)

                            So, by your line of thinking, people on welfare/foodstamps should also not be smokers or drinkers or even buy a pack of gum or a cup of coffee because that's something "you don't need", am I right?

                            You say you don't have a problem with getting assistance when someone is down on their luck, yet you jumped on me without even KNOWING my situation.  I'd say that's purely judgemental and holier than thou.  I think you just assumed that we've been on welfare for years and years and I'm spending oodles of money on lottery tickets every week. 

                            Did you know that my husband lost his job after being with the same company almost 10 years? Did you know that at that time we had an 8 week old baby? Did you know that we've scrimped and saved to just try to keep a roof over our heads?  Did you know that my car got repossesed because said roof was more important than said car?  Do you know what it's like to have to choose between food for yourself and forumula and diapers for your baby?  Do you know what it's like to talk to a foodstamp counselor and be embarrassed beyond belief? 

                            No, I don't think you know what any of the above is like because if you did, you wouldn't be judging ME. 

                            Again, it must be so hard to live up on that pedestal.  I hope and pray that you never have to live what I've been living through.


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                              Posted: October 26, 2010, 3:10 am - IP Logged

                              Floyd, You earned a big wave here. I love those facts.

                              Now for anyone in a hardship, don’t be surprised if a few readers get their dander up when what you need is confused with what you want. Everyone has had to tighten their belts and many have had losses from stolen/lost pensions. This touches everyone in the average class. Can you live without the cigs and candy bar?

                              It sucks being poor and scraping enough together for a pack of cigarettes and a quart of Bohemia (53 cents long ago). It sucks having baked potatoes with salt and no butter. But it does not suck because it teaches one to live within their means, and the simple joys of a baked potato with salt is something to cherish. I chose the tobacco and beer over the butter and it was grand. I had a little over $70.00 in the bank and was not eligible for assistance. A humbling and revealing experience. I died three weeks later.

                              If someone needs entertainment and a dream, buy a deck of cards. Losing one’s job sucks and economic trials happen, but be thankful you don’t live in Haiti. Living within one’s means is rarely taught and is one of the reasons some are able to weather the storm. Consider the transient that has very little, yet can make a living looking sad with a sign. Many establish subsistence help and live large with less overhead.

                              There is a solution but spending money you need for your family on gambling is just plain wrong.

                              Baby needs a new set of shoes!

                              Nothing judgmental on how you live, and if it is- live within your means: pass on the candy bars, soda pop, icecream and lottery. End TV, internet and all the extras you can live without.Try cloth diapers and eat better. Be thankful you have a house to live in.

                              Enjoy a baked potato with salt and butter for a meal. Get an awl for your belt, awl stocks are trading heavily and are on the rise.

                              DD