Quote: Originally posted by delS on May 18, 2011

This is just another sad story.  For this jerk to place the blame on the state is ludicris.  Once he informed the state he was a millionaire, or whatever, after taxes, he should have just turned the card in at the same time.  Those food stamps/groceries are tax payer funded, and deserves to go to the most needy not the most greedy.

Quote: Originally posted by sandia on May 18, 2011

 Wait a minute, we get taxed on our income, if the government finds it, it taxes it (that includes lotto winnings) and, this man gets away with getting foodstamps for a whole year after winning the lotto? Okay, thanks government, thanks!

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on May 18, 2011

I work in a grocery store that specializes in food service, schools , hospitals restaurants , bars, business in general. we are open to the public, no membership fees at all.

The other day I witnessed an illegal transaction,a woman and her sister shopping, the one sister paid for everything in Food stamps and her sister forked over some cash, thats a no no. the bill was almost $600.00 dollars, I looked at her receipt and what I saw floored me, I made copies of that receipt, she still has a balance of $4300.00 in food and a cash balance of $20.00,

I proceed to call the state attorney generals office, how in the <snip> does someone get almost $5000.00 in food. They referred me to the department of human resources after years of dealing with this agency , I knew it was a lost cause, so I did some research and found out Michigan now has a special unit, called the Public Integrity unit, they couldn't help me, they directed me to Criminal justice in Detroit, they couldn't help me they directed me to the department of human resources.

I will find someone to look in to this, what I have personally witnessed over the years would turn your stomach,

The newest scam involving food stamps, are people using food stamps to run catering business, illegal businesses. They are not licensed or insured, they are using tax payer money to rake it in.

Hot dog stands, door to door candy sales, they put their kids in front of shops and businesses to sell candy or they just send them to school to sell the candy.

I had a kid come to my door in his designer shoes and coat, told me he was a boy scout, he was selling butterfingers, I asked him is pack number, he had no clue what I was talking about, I asked him if he was a wolf or a bear, still no clue, I have a boy scout, we sell popcorn, not candy.

I had a woman come through my line a couple weeks ago, said her arm hurt from lifting her baby carrier in the shopping cart, cause she just got a new unicorn tattoo, she was throwing a birthday party for her boyfriend, part of her purchase was 5 gallons of margarita mix, her bill was over $300.00 , she paid in food stamps. Her loser boyfriend was in line behind her to get the rest of the stuff, he also paid in food stamps, when it came time to pay for the non food items he peeled of a hundred dollar bill from a nice size roll.

I had a man come through and he bought 7 cases of red bull, at $35.00 plus $2.40 in deposit, thats $245.00 plus another $16.80 in deposit that the tax payers shelled out for.

I had a Detroit police officer come through and wanted his 5% dicount, even showed me his shield, He had $80.00 in purchases in food stamps, I wouldn't let him have the discount, his card wouldn't swipe, the name on the card said Betty, so he was trying to get a discount for a relative.

I had another woman come through, shes a dealer at a casino, she was complaining that she wasn't getting very good tips, only $400.00 last night, she said, paid for her $608.00 dollar purchase with food stamps.

I have people coming through that collect from several states, They come through at the beginning with Michigan stamps then later they come back with stamps from another state.

I have people coming through that can't even speak english, they bring lists with them, 32 2 liters of coke, 32 2 liters of pepsi, combos, candy bars ( mind you we sell candy by the box -35 count, , they were clearly buying for a relative who owns a gas station or party store.

The list goes on and on, what I see is theft and greed at epic levels.

The attitude of some of these people would shock you, they have no sense of gratitude, they leave messes in their wake all over the store, no respect for themselves or others,

I am saddened , I am now looking for a new job, because I can't bear to go through this month after month, I am losing faith in humanity, and am becoming indifferent to others and thats not who I want to be.

Quote: Originally posted by time*treat on May 18, 2011

"[H]e informed the state, and the state said he could keep using the card. The problem is with the state."

Why all the kvetching? Looks like he's not breaking any laws [and we know how important what de law say is to some people]

Unless the money is federal-tax-free, he will be paying far more in taxes than he will be getting in "food stamps".

Sounds like people are bad at math ... or MYOB. There are far worse things tax money is being "wasted" on -- in far larger amounts.

No food stamp program = no food stamp fraud. If the governor of a state declines federal money, the state can run the program (or get rid of it) as they see fit. But anyone running on a platform threatening .. er .. promising to cut "spending" and then *gasp* actually naming what they would cut is immediately demonized as hating the (insert group here), and can be assured of not being elected.

Quote: Originally posted by pheorama on May 18, 2011

Since nothing this guy is doing is illegal what difference does it make how much he has in the bank? AIG, took federal money plus insurance money after 9-11 for damages, in fact several companies double dipped even if there offices weren't damaged they still claimed federal monies that they were entitled too.  ConAgra takes government checks every year to not grow corn or to grow corn, etc, Corporate welfare is alive and well and we are talking about companies that make upwards of 500 million a year that take government handouts.

Rich people don't waste money or ignore potential loopholes or they would poor like the complainers who are commenting.

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 18, 2011

This guy Leroy is a perfect example of the entitlement mentality so ingrained in society by liberal government. He's a welfare hog, system manipulator and common, despicable cheat. The liberal government, naturally, will say (as they are) that it's perfectly legal and he has every right to do what he's doing and that's the way the system is set up. It doesn't matter that we're broke and on the verge of bankruptcy, poor Mr Fick is entitled to free food even though he's now a millionaire. So it's a Catch 22 and "oh well" we'll just have to live with it.

No, uh-uh. It's waaay past time for a wake-up call to liberal legislators that this sh*t has done got outta hand.

We're running out of people to tax enough to feed all these lazy bums, malcontents, ne'er-do-wells and parasites who think they're entitled to feed at the public trough for their entire lives.

Welfare, food stamps and other social service assistance programs were designed to be an emergency safety net, not a lifetime hammock.

You can see the lack of concern from government sully is running into. That's because the whole system is corrupt. Why? Because those entrenched in power have the votes of everybody they put on the gravy train keeping them and their destructive policies in power and not enough decent people with common sense have woken up to the realities and stood up for what is right.

And if that doesn't happen, and soon, this whole country could end up like Detroit.

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on May 18, 2011

I work in a grocery store that specializes in food service, schools , hospitals restaurants , bars, business in general. we are open to the public, no membership fees at all.

The other day I witnessed an illegal transaction,a woman and her sister shopping, the one sister paid for everything in Food stamps and her sister forked over some cash, thats a no no. the bill was almost $600.00 dollars, I looked at her receipt and what I saw floored me, I made copies of that receipt, she still has a balance of $4300.00 in food and a cash balance of $20.00,

I proceed to call the state attorney generals office, how in the <snip> does someone get almost $5000.00 in food. They referred me to the department of human resources after years of dealing with this agency , I knew it was a lost cause, so I did some research and found out Michigan now has a special unit, called the Public Integrity unit, they couldn't help me, they directed me to Criminal justice in Detroit, they couldn't help me they directed me to the department of human resources.

I will find someone to look in to this, what I have personally witnessed over the years would turn your stomach,

The newest scam involving food stamps, are people using food stamps to run catering business, illegal businesses. They are not licensed or insured, they are using tax payer money to rake it in.

Hot dog stands, door to door candy sales, they put their kids in front of shops and businesses to sell candy or they just send them to school to sell the candy.

I had a kid come to my door in his designer shoes and coat, told me he was a boy scout, he was selling butterfingers, I asked him is pack number, he had no clue what I was talking about, I asked him if he was a wolf or a bear, still no clue, I have a boy scout, we sell popcorn, not candy.

I had a woman come through my line a couple weeks ago, said her arm hurt from lifting her baby carrier in the shopping cart, cause she just got a new unicorn tattoo, she was throwing a birthday party for her boyfriend, part of her purchase was 5 gallons of margarita mix, her bill was over $300.00 , she paid in food stamps. Her loser boyfriend was in line behind her to get the rest of the stuff, he also paid in food stamps, when it came time to pay for the non food items he peeled of a hundred dollar bill from a nice size roll.

I had a man come through and he bought 7 cases of red bull, at $35.00 plus $2.40 in deposit, thats $245.00 plus another $16.80 in deposit that the tax payers shelled out for.

I had a Detroit police officer come through and wanted his 5% dicount, even showed me his shield, He had $80.00 in purchases in food stamps, I wouldn't let him have the discount, his card wouldn't swipe, the name on the card said Betty, so he was trying to get a discount for a relative.

I had another woman come through, shes a dealer at a casino, she was complaining that she wasn't getting very good tips, only $400.00 last night, she said, paid for her $608.00 dollar purchase with food stamps.

I have people coming through that collect from several states, They come through at the beginning with Michigan stamps then later they come back with stamps from another state.

I have people coming through that can't even speak english, they bring lists with them, 32 2 liters of coke, 32 2 liters of pepsi, combos, candy bars ( mind you we sell candy by the box -35 count, , they were clearly buying for a relative who owns a gas station or party store.

The list goes on and on, what I see is theft and greed at epic levels.

The attitude of some of these people would shock you, they have no sense of gratitude, they leave messes in their wake all over the store, no respect for themselves or others,

I am saddened , I am now looking for a new job, because I can't bear to go through this month after month, I am losing faith in humanity, and am becoming indifferent to others and thats not who I want to be.

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on May 18, 2011

I work in a grocery store that specializes in food service, schools , hospitals restaurants , bars, business in general. we are open to the public, no membership fees at all.

The other day I witnessed an illegal transaction,a woman and her sister shopping, the one sister paid for everything in Food stamps and her sister forked over some cash, thats a no no. the bill was almost $600.00 dollars, I looked at her receipt and what I saw floored me, I made copies of that receipt, she still has a balance of $4300.00 in food and a cash balance of $20.00,

I proceed to call the state attorney generals office, how in the <snip> does someone get almost $5000.00 in food. They referred me to the department of human resources after years of dealing with this agency , I knew it was a lost cause, so I did some research and found out Michigan now has a special unit, called the Public Integrity unit, they couldn't help me, they directed me to Criminal justice in Detroit, they couldn't help me they directed me to the department of human resources.

I will find someone to look in to this, what I have personally witnessed over the years would turn your stomach,

The newest scam involving food stamps, are people using food stamps to run catering business, illegal businesses. They are not licensed or insured, they are using tax payer money to rake it in.

Hot dog stands, door to door candy sales, they put their kids in front of shops and businesses to sell candy or they just send them to school to sell the candy.

I had a kid come to my door in his designer shoes and coat, told me he was a boy scout, he was selling butterfingers, I asked him is pack number, he had no clue what I was talking about, I asked him if he was a wolf or a bear, still no clue, I have a boy scout, we sell popcorn, not candy.

I had a woman come through my line a couple weeks ago, said her arm hurt from lifting her baby carrier in the shopping cart, cause she just got a new unicorn tattoo, she was throwing a birthday party for her boyfriend, part of her purchase was 5 gallons of margarita mix, her bill was over $300.00 , she paid in food stamps. Her loser boyfriend was in line behind her to get the rest of the stuff, he also paid in food stamps, when it came time to pay for the non food items he peeled of a hundred dollar bill from a nice size roll.

I had a man come through and he bought 7 cases of red bull, at $35.00 plus $2.40 in deposit, thats $245.00 plus another $16.80 in deposit that the tax payers shelled out for.

I had a Detroit police officer come through and wanted his 5% dicount, even showed me his shield, He had $80.00 in purchases in food stamps, I wouldn't let him have the discount, his card wouldn't swipe, the name on the card said Betty, so he was trying to get a discount for a relative.

I had another woman come through, shes a dealer at a casino, she was complaining that she wasn't getting very good tips, only $400.00 last night, she said, paid for her $608.00 dollar purchase with food stamps.

I have people coming through that collect from several states, They come through at the beginning with Michigan stamps then later they come back with stamps from another state.

I have people coming through that can't even speak english, they bring lists with them, 32 2 liters of coke, 32 2 liters of pepsi, combos, candy bars ( mind you we sell candy by the box -35 count, , they were clearly buying for a relative who owns a gas station or party store.

The list goes on and on, what I see is theft and greed at epic levels.

The attitude of some of these people would shock you, they have no sense of gratitude, they leave messes in their wake all over the store, no respect for themselves or others,

I am saddened , I am now looking for a new job, because I can't bear to go through this month after month, I am losing faith in humanity, and am becoming indifferent to others and thats not who I want to be.

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 18, 2011

This guy Leroy is a perfect example of the entitlement mentality so ingrained in society by liberal government. He's a welfare hog, system manipulator and common, despicable cheat. The liberal government, naturally, will say (as they are) that it's perfectly legal and he has every right to do what he's doing and that's the way the system is set up. It doesn't matter that we're broke and on the verge of bankruptcy, poor Mr Fick is entitled to free food even though he's now a millionaire. So it's a Catch 22 and "oh well" we'll just have to live with it.

No, uh-uh. It's waaay past time for a wake-up call to liberal legislators that this sh*t has done got outta hand.

We're running out of people to tax enough to feed all these lazy bums, malcontents, ne'er-do-wells and parasites who think they're entitled to feed at the public trough for their entire lives.

Welfare, food stamps and other social service assistance programs were designed to be an emergency safety net, not a lifetime hammock.

You can see the lack of concern from government sully is running into. That's because the whole system is corrupt. Why? Because those entrenched in power have the votes of everybody they put on the gravy train keeping them and their destructive policies in power and not enough decent people with common sense have woken up to the realities and stood up for what is right.

And if that doesn't happen, and soon, this whole country could end up like Detroit.

Quote: Originally posted by dallascowboyfan on May 18, 2011

Sully, keep you faith in God. There's still is a few good men & women in the world. I know it seems hard when you have people that are trying to do right; but it appears that those that do wrong profit. I pray God will bless you with a new job.

Quote: Originally posted by Littleoldlady on May 18, 2011

Send a copy of this email to your state representatives and then send it to CNN, ABC, CBS,  well you get the point.

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on May 18, 2011

It is in the works, The fraud has got to stop, I do see people who are truly needy, they have that ' WHAT HAPPENED TO MY LIFE LOOK, those are the people I feel for, you can spot them a mile away, but, the takers have taken to much.

Quote: Originally posted by loonasee2 on May 18, 2011

Shame on you Leroy shame on you.

Bad karma

Quote: Originally posted by sully16 on May 18, 2011

I work in a grocery store that specializes in food service, schools , hospitals restaurants , bars, business in general. we are open to the public, no membership fees at all.

The other day I witnessed an illegal transaction,a woman and her sister shopping, the one sister paid for everything in Food stamps and her sister forked over some cash, thats a no no. the bill was almost $600.00 dollars, I looked at her receipt and what I saw floored me, I made copies of that receipt, she still has a balance of $4300.00 in food and a cash balance of $20.00,

I proceed to call the state attorney generals office, how in the <snip> does someone get almost $5000.00 in food. They referred me to the department of human resources after years of dealing with this agency , I knew it was a lost cause, so I did some research and found out Michigan now has a special unit, called the Public Integrity unit, they couldn't help me, they directed me to Criminal justice in Detroit, they couldn't help me they directed me to the department of human resources.

I will find someone to look in to this, what I have personally witnessed over the years would turn your stomach,

The newest scam involving food stamps, are people using food stamps to run catering business, illegal businesses. They are not licensed or insured, they are using tax payer money to rake it in.

Hot dog stands, door to door candy sales, they put their kids in front of shops and businesses to sell candy or they just send them to school to sell the candy.

I had a kid come to my door in his designer shoes and coat, told me he was a boy scout, he was selling butterfingers, I asked him is pack number, he had no clue what I was talking about, I asked him if he was a wolf or a bear, still no clue, I have a boy scout, we sell popcorn, not candy.

I had a woman come through my line a couple weeks ago, said her arm hurt from lifting her baby carrier in the shopping cart, cause she just got a new unicorn tattoo, she was throwing a birthday party for her boyfriend, part of her purchase was 5 gallons of margarita mix, her bill was over $300.00 , she paid in food stamps. Her loser boyfriend was in line behind her to get the rest of the stuff, he also paid in food stamps, when it came time to pay for the non food items he peeled of a hundred dollar bill from a nice size roll.

I had a man come through and he bought 7 cases of red bull, at $35.00 plus $2.40 in deposit, thats $245.00 plus another $16.80 in deposit that the tax payers shelled out for.

I had a Detroit police officer come through and wanted his 5% dicount, even showed me his shield, He had $80.00 in purchases in food stamps, I wouldn't let him have the discount, his card wouldn't swipe, the name on the card said Betty, so he was trying to get a discount for a relative.

I had another woman come through, shes a dealer at a casino, she was complaining that she wasn't getting very good tips, only $400.00 last night, she said, paid for her $608.00 dollar purchase with food stamps.

I have people coming through that collect from several states, They come through at the beginning with Michigan stamps then later they come back with stamps from another state.

I have people coming through that can't even speak english, they bring lists with them, 32 2 liters of coke, 32 2 liters of pepsi, combos, candy bars ( mind you we sell candy by the box -35 count, , they were clearly buying for a relative who owns a gas station or party store.

The list goes on and on, what I see is theft and greed at epic levels.

The attitude of some of these people would shock you, they have no sense of gratitude, they leave messes in their wake all over the store, no respect for themselves or others,

I am saddened , I am now looking for a new job, because I can't bear to go through this month after month, I am losing faith in humanity, and am becoming indifferent to others and thats not who I want to be.

Quote: Originally posted by maringoman on May 18, 2011

How do you do your job with a nice smile as you're s'pposed to when you have to deal with stuff like these?

I feel your pain and frustration at seeing all that when you probably know people who genuinely deserve help but cant get any due to technicalities.

Now I hate politics but when I hear things like these I want to spit at any liberal democrat omg!

Quote: Originally posted by rdgrnr on May 18, 2011

I always knew there was something about you that I liked!   

Quote: Originally posted by Thack on May 18, 2011

The guy probably gets no more than $200 per month in food assistance. I don't hear anyone complaining about the $18 billion in oil subsidies the taxpayers give to the 5 US big oil companies. They made $1 trillion over the last ten years and the American taxpayer is giving them money. That money is not going for R&D of new oil but is instead going straight into the pockets of big investors.

The guy is wrong to keep getting assistance, but he isn't breaking any laws, which is what Wall St always says about it's dealings. 

Get mad at the right people. The little guys like this one can't hurt you. $200 a month is not a big deal but $18 billion per year to people who are already rolling in money isn't sensible.