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$2M Michigan lottery winner defends use of food stamps

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Posted: May 18, 2011, 9:33 pm - IP Logged

A lot of us are looking at it the wrong way and i agree with everyones arguement, its the government to blame not him..some countries winnings are not taxed. and im sure out of his 2million he paid over $500,000 in taxes so he will never get that much of foodstamps for the remainder of his life..No point of complaining here, contact your state representative!!!!

I agree I am surprise someone would go through all that to try to burst some one for a bridge card live and let live please! I must say the 2mill winner is a surprise too.Bang Head

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    He's only doing what most big businesses do, in fact what they pay lawyers and accountants big money for - to use every loophole and letter of the law and any way to game the system to save or make a buck. Good for him.


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      He's only doing what most big businesses do, in fact what they pay lawyers and accountants big money for - to use every loophole and letter of the law and any way to game the system to save or make a buck. Good for him.

      You sooo right tg636,I was going say the same thing but hadn't gotten through the thread. Iwill go back to Ross Perot that how him and his family living high on the hog with taxpayer money , where is the outrage where is it! Even Donald Trump and all his govt's help.Ask about Michigan what about Blackwater with Prince and all the taxpayers money paid over the top payment to him with no bidNo No defense contract. We concern with food stamps please!


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        Posted: May 18, 2011, 9:59 pm - IP Logged

        How do you do your job with a nice smile as you're s'pposed to when you have to deal with stuff like these?

        I feel your pain and frustration at seeing all that when you probably know people who genuinely deserve help but cant get any due to technicalities.

        Now I hate politics but when I hear things like these I want to spit at any liberal democrat omg!

        You Sir need to get  a life and maybe a heart!Evil Looking

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          The guy probably gets no more than $200 per month in food assistance. I don't hear anyone complaining about the $18 billion in oil subsidies the taxpayers give to the 5 US big oil companies. They made $1 trillion over the last ten years and the American taxpayer is giving them money. That money is not going for R&D of new oil but is instead going straight into the pockets of big investors.

          The guy is wrong to keep getting assistance, but he isn't breaking any laws, which is what Wall St always says about it's dealings. 

          Get mad at the right people. The little guys like this one can't hurt you. $200 a month is not a big deal but $18 billion per year to people who are already rolling in money isn't sensible.

          I don't hear anyone complaining about the $18 billion in oil subsidies the taxpayers give to the 5 US big oil companies. They made $1 trillion over the last ten years and the American taxpayer is giving them money.

          No one is complaining about the oil subsidies because this is a lottery story in a lottery forum about a lottery winner and oil subsidies doesn't doesn't seem to fit in with the subject of lotteries.

          And little guys like this can hurt us when there are millions of little guys through this country who are collecting freebies and scamming the country. The US is country is soaked with entitlement minded people who all are fighting to keep their cut from the government, and that is one of the reasons why this country is going downhill at an accelerated rate. He's a millionaire, there is no reason for him to be collecting from hard working taxpayers.

          As for oil, when an oil exec wins the lottery, then we can complain about the oil subsidies.

          Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

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            Posted: May 19, 2011, 12:01 am - IP Logged

            Stick within the realm of the article. Some folks seem to consider this a platform to air other government matters. THe issue is the Food stamps being collected by a wealthy man who found a loophole that will soon be reviewed. End of story.

            I do not agree with this mans antics , nor the government so called qualifications. IN PA they DO HAVE harder qualifications, so I doubt this is coming from the federal LEVEL so much as the state levels. Each state regulates and manages its own "welfare" system.  I do not consider the people of Michigan accountable for this loophole, it came from higher up by the less thinkers of the state. I doubt that the citizens of Michigan got to personally vote on this regulation....yet they get to pay the price of this mans antics.

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              Posted: May 19, 2011, 12:07 am - IP Logged

              I agree I am surprise someone would go through all that to try to burst some one for a bridge card live and let live please! I must say the 2mill winner is a surprise too.Bang Head

              I've never played Bridge before and I don't understand why they'd take your Bridge Cards.

              Do they take Pinochle Cards away from people too? I don't play that either.

              I do play Poker once in a while though.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

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                Morally, the man should not be accepting the assistance. Legally, he can. So fix it Michigan, like you fixed the college kids from collecting their measly $250 per month in food stamps. I have a kid in college in Michigan. There are very few jobs to be found and you have to know someone to get those. Luckily in the past he's been able to find some summer work, including babysitting his girlfriend's little brother. That little bit he earned over the summer does not last through the winter when the heat bills on a 2 bdrm apt are over $100. He and his roommate decided shut off their heat last February (set to 40 to keep the pipes from freezing). This summer he's found a job that may carry over parttime when he heads back to school in the fall.

                LOL, life is tuff for college kids, but mine's making it even without the grocery money from the state. I think this lottery winner could try the same.

                 

                And no fair bashing the oil company profits unless you are going to also bash GE profits. What's left of my retirement 401k has energy stocks. I guess that must make me a big investor.  Yeah right. ROFL

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                  Morally, the man should not be accepting the assistance. Legally, he can. So fix it Michigan, like you fixed the college kids from collecting their measly $250 per month in food stamps. I have a kid in college in Michigan. There are very few jobs to be found and you have to know someone to get those. Luckily in the past he's been able to find some summer work, including babysitting his girlfriend's little brother. That little bit he earned over the summer does not last through the winter when the heat bills on a 2 bdrm apt are over $100. He and his roommate decided shut off their heat last February (set to 40 to keep the pipes from freezing). This summer he's found a job that may carry over parttime when he heads back to school in the fall.

                  LOL, life is tuff for college kids, but mine's making it even without the grocery money from the state. I think this lottery winner could try the same.

                   

                  And no fair bashing the oil company profits unless you are going to also bash GE profits. What's left of my retirement 401k has energy stocks. I guess that must make me a big investor.  Yeah right. ROFL

                  Good point Piaceri,

                  GE is a supporter of our President and major contributor to his campaign fund.

                  They pay zero taxes.     ZIP, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, NOTHING, NOT A PENNY IN TAXES. 

                  Not a word is said about this by the libs.

                  They also don't talk about gas prices anymore since they have more than doubled since Bush left office.

                  GAS PRICES. MORE THAN DOUBLED.

                  Not a word.


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

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                    I work in a grocery store that specializes in food service, schools , hospitals restaurants , bars, business in general. we are open to the public, no membership fees at all.

                    The other day I witnessed an illegal transaction,a woman and her sister shopping, the one sister paid for everything in Food stamps and her sister forked over some cash, thats a no no. the bill was almost $600.00 dollars, I looked at her receipt and what I saw floored me, I made copies of that receipt, she still has a balance of $4300.00 in food and a cash balance of $20.00,

                    I proceed to call the state attorney generals office, how in the <snip> does someone get almost $5000.00 in food. They referred me to the department of human resources after years of dealing with this agency , I knew it was a lost cause, so I did some research and found out Michigan now has a special unit, called the Public Integrity unit, they couldn't help me, they directed me to Criminal justice in Detroit, they couldn't help me they directed me to the department of human resources.

                    I will find someone to look in to this, what I have personally witnessed over the years would turn your stomach,

                    The newest scam involving food stamps, are people using food stamps to run catering business, illegal businesses. They are not licensed or insured, they are using tax payer money to rake it in.

                    Hot dog stands, door to door candy sales, they put their kids in front of shops and businesses to sell candy or they just send them to school to sell the candy.

                    I had a kid come to my door in his designer shoes and coat, told me he was a boy scout, he was selling butterfingers, I asked him is pack number, he had no clue what I was talking about, I asked him if he was a wolf or a bear, still no clue, I have a boy scout, we sell popcorn, not candy.

                    I had a woman come through my line a couple weeks ago, said her arm hurt from lifting her baby carrier in the shopping cart, cause she just got a new unicorn tattoo, she was throwing a birthday party for her boyfriend, part of her purchase was 5 gallons of margarita mix, her bill was over $300.00 , she paid in food stamps. Her loser boyfriend was in line behind her to get the rest of the stuff, he also paid in food stamps, when it came time to pay for the non food items he peeled of a hundred dollar bill from a nice size roll.

                    I had a man come through and he bought 7 cases of red bull, at $35.00 plus $2.40 in deposit, thats $245.00 plus another $16.80 in deposit that the tax payers shelled out for.

                    I had a Detroit police officer come through and wanted his 5% dicount, even showed me his shield, He had $80.00 in purchases in food stamps, I wouldn't let him have the discount, his card wouldn't swipe, the name on the card said Betty, so he was trying to get a discount for a relative.

                    I had another woman come through, shes a dealer at a casino, she was complaining that she wasn't getting very good tips, only $400.00 last night, she said, paid for her $608.00 dollar purchase with food stamps.

                    I have people coming through that collect from several states, They come through at the beginning with Michigan stamps then later they come back with stamps from another state.

                    I have people coming through that can't even speak english, they bring lists with them, 32 2 liters of coke, 32 2 liters of pepsi, combos, candy bars ( mind you we sell candy by the box -35 count, , they were clearly buying for a relative who owns a gas station or party store.

                    The list goes on and on, what I see is theft and greed at epic levels.

                    The attitude of some of these people would shock you, they have no sense of gratitude, they leave messes in their wake all over the store, no respect for themselves or others,

                    I am saddened , I am now looking for a new job, because I can't bear to go through this month after month, I am losing faith in humanity, and am becoming indifferent to others and thats not who I want to be.

                     

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                    WOW! I usually skip over messages if they look long, but I couldn't help but keep reading this! This is SNIP (I'll edit it myself lol) RIDICULOUS!!! To add to your story, my friend plays Division 1 college football in Michigan (I won't say which team) and he has teamates who only use their food stamps for protein shakes, protein bars, and other supplements like that. This is insane...

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                      Posted: May 19, 2011, 7:50 am - IP Logged

                      I don't hear anyone complaining about the $18 billion in oil subsidies the taxpayers give to the 5 US big oil companies. They made $1 trillion over the last ten years and the American taxpayer is giving them money.

                      No one is complaining about the oil subsidies because this is a lottery story in a lottery forum about a lottery winner and oil subsidies doesn't doesn't seem to fit in with the subject of lotteries.

                      And little guys like this can hurt us when there are millions of little guys through this country who are collecting freebies and scamming the country. The US is country is soaked with entitlement minded people who all are fighting to keep their cut from the government, and that is one of the reasons why this country is going downhill at an accelerated rate. He's a millionaire, there is no reason for him to be collecting from hard working taxpayers.

                      As for oil, when an oil exec wins the lottery, then we can complain about the oil subsidies.

                      I Agree!

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                      http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/231369 My P4 to P3 Pair System

                       http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/233360 My Digit 9 Significance System

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                        Posted: May 19, 2011, 7:59 am - IP Logged

                        WOW! I usually skip over messages if they look long, but I couldn't help but keep reading this! This is SNIP (I'll edit it myself lol) RIDICULOUS!!! To add to your story, my friend plays Division 1 college football in Michigan (I won't say which team) and he has teamates who only use their food stamps for protein shakes, protein bars, and other supplements like that. This is insane...

                        The newest trend here, college kids getting food stamps, an even bigger trend is how to get your kids put on Section 8 when they turn 18. You quite simply change your address, claim your paying rent and enroll in at least one class and ta da, the tax-payers foot the bill.

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                          Leroy Fick will be on Fox & Friends on Fox News Channel tomorrow morning to defend his actions.

                          That oughta be good. You'd think he'd be too ashamed.

                          Nope.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

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                            Maybe I should send the receipt to Fox and friends.

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                              Maybe I should send the receipt to Fox and friends.

                              Probably get more attention there than from the people who are supposed to be looking out for the peoples' interest.


                                                                           
                                                   
                                                                       

                               

                               

                               

                               

                                                                                                                                 

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