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sully16's avatar - sharan
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Posted: May 19, 2011, 9:00 pm - IP Logged

Wrong. They took the food stamp (bridge card) option away from the college kids. I know this from experience. My son and his roommate used their heat money for groceries this past winter. They kept their apartment at 40 from mid Jan on. It was eat and bundle up (lots of hours at the library), or stay warm and starve. Neither could find steady work, and both were living off student loans and what was left of rapidly depleting college savings.

As to the other (Section 8), yeah, I can believe that and probably know people who have done, or are planning on doing this. Sucking off the government teet is an art form to many people I came across in my 22 years in MI. Being a Texas gal, I was stunned beyond belief at the attitudes in MI. 

Your story about the groceries made me want to puke. I hope you find some sort of recourse. I'd definitely encourage you to send your story to Fox News, especially in light of them having Leroy Fick on their show tomorrow. I'm bummed that I'm going to miss it.

I have been in contact, with several people today, one a state rep, not all forms of the bridge card are the same, not every one qualifies for the same thing, there are thousands of college kids still getting food assistance, the Rep in this very article is working on legislation to stop it.

I myself worked my way through college and I know how tough it is, Good luck to your son and I'll keep you posted, what I have learned in the course of 2 days of talking to people, it much worse than some of these careless thoughtless shoppers.

Some people I talked to believe welfare and the dumbing down of America has been done on purpose.

Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

For a lead role in a cage?

 

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    Piaceri's avatar - sarsony1
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    Posted: May 19, 2011, 9:05 pm - IP Logged

    "Some people I talked to believe welfare and the dumbing down of America has been done on purpose."

     

    The "enemy within".

     

    You know the job market is bad when a 21 yr old young man resorts to babysitting for college money. Luckily a friend came through with a bank teller job for the summer that may continue through when he goes back to school in the fall. He's living in his Dad's basement for the summer to save rent $. There is a way to work things out. God helps those who help themselves.

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      ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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      Posted: May 19, 2011, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

      I have been in contact, with several people today, one a state rep, not all forms of the bridge card are the same, not every one qualifies for the same thing, there are thousands of college kids still getting food assistance, the Rep in this very article is working on legislation to stop it.

      I myself worked my way through college and I know how tough it is, Good luck to your son and I'll keep you posted, what I have learned in the course of 2 days of talking to people, it much worse than some of these careless thoughtless shoppers.

      Some people I talked to believe welfare and the dumbing down of America has been done on purpose.

      "Some people I talked to believe welfare and the dumbing down of America has been done on purpose."

      Oh, you got that right Sully. Keeping people on the gov't spicket keeps them voting a particular way. We've got so many people and entities in the country who are getting some kind of benefit or payment from the government, be it welfare, food stamps, SS, medicare/caid, tax breaks, subsidies, etc etc etc that no matter what they try to cut, someone is going to get pissed because they might lose their freebie.  Makes for good politics when one party says 'look at the evil other party who is trying to take your candy away from you'. Oh...and the 'children'. 'They're going to kill all the poor poor children they cut this or that.'

      Yes, I agree, it's all done on purpose. Angry

      Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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        That's right.

        Get as many people as you can working for the government and give them better pay and benefits than the private sector and then put everybody else you can on welfare and food stamps.

        That's a captive voting block.

        Only problem is that the whole house of cards eventually collapses under it's own weight.

        It's unsustainable.


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

        "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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          ameriken's avatar - 33ojew2
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          Posted: May 19, 2011, 10:08 pm - IP Logged

          And it's all collapsing as we speak.

          Give someone a fish and feed them for a day. Teach them to use the internet and they won't bother you for weeks. 

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            Posted: May 19, 2011, 11:29 pm - IP Logged

            Good for him..They took half his money , maybe he can get alittle of it back thru the food stamp program.. PartyPeople want to condemn the little man and the government can use your money for all kinds of things that make no sense...  Get over it people.!!!Smile

            I Agree!

            Shows you the basic "morality" of the public -- the gov't takes three-quarters-plus of a million out of your front pocket and lets you use a card for a few hundred bucks a month for food .... and people complain about you having the food card.

            Between the top federal and (Michigan) state rates, he'd have paid (or will owe) about $800,000 in taxes on $2 million.
            Any county and city taxes are extra. If his food card gave him the [highly unlikely] sum of $1,000 a month it would take 66 YEARS for him to get back that $800 GRAND.

            In other words, he ain't spending anyone's money but his own -- and only a fraction of that.

            In neo-conned Amerika, bank robs you.
            Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be the name of a convenience store, not a govnoment agency.

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              Posted: May 20, 2011, 1:47 am - IP Logged

              I lived in Auburn for a short time, interesting little place... Haven't been through it really in awhile though. But there are a lot of people there that are a bit funny in the head so to speak. That area (well, more Midland) is just lucky Dow Chemical was founded there and hasn't moved out, if they did there would be a lot more people on financial assistance. Either way, I don't care, he paid his taxes on his winnings, he's pretty much just a little of it back. 

              I feel like taking a trip and seeing how that area has changed since the last time I was there.Cheers

              You can't predict random.

                mayhem's avatar - 142g5yd
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                Posted: May 20, 2011, 3:15 am - IP Logged

                Get over it.

                 

                There is FAR more waste going on than simpletons with foods stamps running petty schemes. No wonder the world is amok, look at the silly crap we get angry at while *real* greed trashes the world...

                 

                The math skills on display here are equally as atrocious....especially for a lottery forum....oh wait, it isn't math is it? Its emotional pettiness. We spent 50 billion on food stamps last year......

                 

                How many trillions have we spent on goverment bailouts? Some people need to get thier heads out of thier a-s-s's and get thier priorities straight. YOU'RE THE PROBLEM.

                How you do anything is how you do everything.


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                  Get over it.

                   

                  There is FAR more waste going on than simpletons with foods stamps running petty schemes. No wonder the world is amok, look at the silly crap we get angry at while *real* greed trashes the world...

                   

                  The math skills on display here are equally as atrocious....especially for a lottery forum....oh wait, it isn't math is it? Its emotional pettiness. We spent 50 billion on food stamps last year......

                   

                  How many trillions have we spent on goverment bailouts? Some people need to get thier heads out of thier a-s-s's and get thier priorities straight. YOU'RE THE PROBLEM.

                  Ha Ha! Look what was posted just as I was going to
                  post?

                   

                   

                  Good point about the gas prices Ridge, but what about Bush’s
                  midterm record hikes on oil and gas prices? The Arabs saud we can have all the
                  oil we could buy and there was no shortage. Then all across the nation what was
                  once disposable income and savings for things like autos went south. In the
                  summer of 2008 the news was a flash but it was there: Auto sales were down. The
                  writing was on the wall bud and the big three were in DC the day following the
                  election. Now, are you going to tell me the President elect had that all worked
                  out on the side? McCain said there was no problem with the economy in like
                  September and the shills for big oil were yelling Drill Baby Drill at the RNC. You
                  should really get informed on Alaska’s oil industry and history in manipulated
                  politics. Alaska has to be right there with the early Texas oil boom years in
                  graft. We lower 48’rs have no idea what has been going on and how much winning
                  an election is to the point of offshore funds and hidden advertisers buying
                  your vote. There were tankers BTW in the Columbia river, loaded with fuel at
                  the peak of the gas price surge in the 70’s. And,.. in 2006 the oil companies
                  posted record profits in the tens of BILLIONS.

                  I would think for a man of yur background you could see that
                  neither party can force the price of oil up or down. It was just good timing to
                  snatch up the last of the common clay’s disposable income because the
                  DEREGULATION paved the way for a global economic collapse. Only the grace of
                  God is keeping things tempered and the real economic collapse is postponed. Be thankful
                  the price of gas is going down and polish up that ticket for the ride on the
                  gospel ship.

                  Any kind of worldly political perfection idealism is for the
                  nearsighted naïve. We are way long in the tooth as a Democracy from a Republic we
                  were intended. Next step is chaos and Oligarchy. The political perfection
                  everyone craves is on the way but if you think Der homeland security and the
                  patriot act are radical violations of freedom to secure freedom, you ain’t seen
                  noth’n yet. We still are under the Crown.

                  All the environmental and economic and food and war
                  disasters AND the 2012 dateline are pre-tensions. The solution will be accepted
                  universally by every nation. World Peace, food for all, order –all, everyone
                  will be saving the planet! Political perfection in sheep’s clothing. This article
                  is just another tease to get you wound up for new order. When it is personal
                  and hits home the solution will be something no one in their right mind would
                  accept under normal standards. It is going to get real bad, worse than the GREAT
                  depression (You did know about the lesser ones, yes?).

                  The guy has a problem and if he wants to live like Rockefeller
                  and Hughes then there is nothing much to reform because greed cannot be
                  outlawed. If he reads this he should get a grip on what is really worth much
                  gold and that is ,…

                  ROMANS chapter 10, Verses 9 and 10

                  …otherwise stock up to the gills on everything you might want to eat until the neighbors find out you have food!

                   

                   DD

                    sully16's avatar - sharan
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                    Posted: May 20, 2011, 8:48 am - IP Logged

                    I Agree!

                    Shows you the basic "morality" of the public -- the gov't takes three-quarters-plus of a million out of your front pocket and lets you use a card for a few hundred bucks a month for food .... and people complain about you having the food card.

                    Between the top federal and (Michigan) state rates, he'd have paid (or will owe) about $800,000 in taxes on $2 million.
                    Any county and city taxes are extra. If his food card gave him the [highly unlikely] sum of $1,000 a month it would take 66 YEARS for him to get back that $800 GRAND.

                    In other words, he ain't spending anyone's money but his own -- and only a fraction of that.

                    I agree, lottery winners should keep all the winnings, but that food stamp money, thats my money, 45 million Americans on food stamps, a few hundred dollars, no way, maybe mister Fick is only getting a couple hundred, I will be more than happy to send you the receipt showing $5000 IN FOOD, THE WOMAN WHO USED THIS CARD, DROVE OFF IN A MERCEDES,

                    It is not okay for the government to take my money away from me and give it to someone else, either through entitlements, bailouts, foreign aid, I am sick of it all,

                    2 billion of our money went to Brazil, so they could drill for oil to meet Chinas growing needs.

                    It is not okay to use welfare money to buy lottery tickets, beer, cigarettes, or as a small business venture, so you can have your hair and fingernails done.

                    No, you cannot continue to send your kids to private school, and have them take Karate lessons or dance lessons while the tax payers fill your belly. this poor woman, is a NICU Nurse, oh poor divorced woman.

                    This is the crap I am talking about.

                    I have no problem donating to food banks, I give new coats, hats and mittens to charity in the winter, not last years crap I dug out of a closet, I give to toys for tots, because I can't bear for any child to not have a Christmas.

                    My main charities are Childrens hospitals of Michigan and St Judes. A sick child and a struggling family will always be a priority for me.

                    I do have a problem with people who continue to have kids they can't feed or clothe, and expect and demand my pity, I only feel sorry for the kids.

                    We hire people on welfare and they don't last long, all we hear is I ain't doing that , I ain't doing this. It is beneath them to put in an honests days work, because the work sucks, but I do it. It is not fun standing at a slicer for hours on end dealing with customers. We pay well, have benefits 401k-profit sharing, and still they can't hack it.

                    I am 49 years old, and if I can go in the cooler, unload 6 pallets of meat and milk, then Dammit someone half my age should be able to do it with ease, I hear well, I got kids, so do I, figure it out. I can't work I got kids, what a bunch of crap.

                    Oh but you can sit in a bingo hall or casino all day, while mom or grandma watches the kids,

                    I am not rich, but that still doens't make it okay to take Donny Trumps money from him to give to me, the people who complain the loudest about the rich don't pay taxes at all.

                    If we want something we save up for it, thats mean we don't piss away our money the minute it comes in.

                    We have a friend who is an electrician, he has not worked in 9 years, if He can't have the HIGH PAYING UNION JOB HE WANTS, Then he ain't working, he has blown through years of unemployment, filed for bankruptcy to save his house and is now on welfare, yet he is sitting on a 401k and his pension. I have no pity for him, he spends his days drinking and watching sports, must be nice.

                    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                    For a lead role in a cage?

                     

                                                                From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

                      rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                      I agree, lottery winners should keep all the winnings, but that food stamp money, thats my money, 45 million Americans on food stamps, a few hundred dollars, no way, maybe mister Fick is only getting a couple hundred, I will be more than happy to send you the receipt showing $5000 IN FOOD, THE WOMAN WHO USED THIS CARD, DROVE OFF IN A MERCEDES,

                      It is not okay for the government to take my money away from me and give it to someone else, either through entitlements, bailouts, foreign aid, I am sick of it all,

                      2 billion of our money went to Brazil, so they could drill for oil to meet Chinas growing needs.

                      It is not okay to use welfare money to buy lottery tickets, beer, cigarettes, or as a small business venture, so you can have your hair and fingernails done.

                      No, you cannot continue to send your kids to private school, and have them take Karate lessons or dance lessons while the tax payers fill your belly. this poor woman, is a NICU Nurse, oh poor divorced woman.

                      This is the crap I am talking about.

                      I have no problem donating to food banks, I give new coats, hats and mittens to charity in the winter, not last years crap I dug out of a closet, I give to toys for tots, because I can't bear for any child to not have a Christmas.

                      My main charities are Childrens hospitals of Michigan and St Judes. A sick child and a struggling family will always be a priority for me.

                      I do have a problem with people who continue to have kids they can't feed or clothe, and expect and demand my pity, I only feel sorry for the kids.

                      We hire people on welfare and they don't last long, all we hear is I ain't doing that , I ain't doing this. It is beneath them to put in an honests days work, because the work sucks, but I do it. It is not fun standing at a slicer for hours on end dealing with customers. We pay well, have benefits 401k-profit sharing, and still they can't hack it.

                      I am 49 years old, and if I can go in the cooler, unload 6 pallets of meat and milk, then Dammit someone half my age should be able to do it with ease, I hear well, I got kids, so do I, figure it out. I can't work I got kids, what a bunch of crap.

                      Oh but you can sit in a bingo hall or casino all day, while mom or grandma watches the kids,

                      I am not rich, but that still doens't make it okay to take Donny Trumps money from him to give to me, the people who complain the loudest about the rich don't pay taxes at all.

                      If we want something we save up for it, thats mean we don't piss away our money the minute it comes in.

                      We have a friend who is an electrician, he has not worked in 9 years, if He can't have the HIGH PAYING UNION JOB HE WANTS, Then he ain't working, he has blown through years of unemployment, filed for bankruptcy to save his house and is now on welfare, yet he is sitting on a 401k and his pension. I have no pity for him, he spends his days drinking and watching sports, must be nice.

                      Sully, you are magnificent!

                      We cannot proceed on the basis of "Well, the government steals and the rich steal so it's ok for us to steal too."

                      No, we have to stand against corruption from all quarters until we eliminate it.

                      We have to stop eating the crumbs from the table of corruption thrown our way to shut us up and divert our gaze from the big picture.

                      It's impossible to complain about foxes in the hen house when we have a mouth full of feathers.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        Sully, you are magnificent!

                        We cannot proceed on the basis of "Well, the government steals and the rich steal so it's ok for us to steal too."

                        No, we have to stand against corruption from all quarters until we eliminate it.

                        We have to stop eating the crumbs from the table of corruption thrown our way to shut us up and divert our gaze from the big picture.

                        It's impossible to complain about foxes in the hen house when we have a mouth full of feathers.

                        Well put Sully!! RR, you have the right idea, no corruption period, from no one!! When I was around 10 years old, my mom had a big fight with her only sister, because her sister was on welfare. She and her husband had 6 kids and her husband was a drunk and couldn't keep a job. My father was a farmer, my mom worked in the textile plant from 11pm to 8am, 5 days a week. She figured if she could work , her sister should work.

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                          This man is simply RIDICULOUS!!!  I'm going to try and find hisFOX News interview that he gave.

                          All things are possible to those that believe!!!!!!Wink

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                              Get over it.

                               

                              There is FAR more waste going on than simpletons with foods stamps running petty schemes. No wonder the world is amok, look at the silly crap we get angry at while *real* greed trashes the world...

                               

                              The math skills on display here are equally as atrocious....especially for a lottery forum....oh wait, it isn't math is it? Its emotional pettiness. We spent 50 billion on food stamps last year......

                               

                              How many trillions have we spent on goverment bailouts? Some people need to get thier heads out of thier a-s-s's and get thier priorities straight. YOU'RE THE PROBLEM.

                              I Agree!100% ,First of all correct me if I am wrong but, I think not isn't it against the law to take other people credit cards number or may I say their any card number and put it out there like that invasion of privacy.You are violating their civil rights.All of you who are not bias look into it I am sure ,I am right.No NoCussing Face