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$2M Michigan lottery winner defends use of food stamps

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MADDOG10's avatar - smoke
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Posted: May 20, 2011, 5:17 pm - IP Logged

Get over it.

 

There is FAR more waste going on than simpletons with foods stamps running petty schemes. No wonder the world is amok, look at the silly crap we get angry at while *real* greed trashes the world...

 

The math skills on display here are equally as atrocious....especially for a lottery forum....oh wait, it isn't math is it? Its emotional pettiness. We spent 50 billion on food stamps last year......

 

How many trillions have we spent on goverment bailouts? Some people need to get thier heads out of thier a-s-s's and get thier priorities straight. YOU'RE THE PROBLEM.

And what is your point proffessor...?

  Uh, we didn' t spend a dime on bailouts, YOUR GOVERNMENT did and how much did You say about that on your way to this forum.

  Geez maybe all of us should be exactly like you, and start dusting the "  Dung  "

out of our eye's and ears.

NO we may add to the problem, but it's sissy la la's like you that are the problem.

If you want to soapbox it, go to Washington D.C. and start your crusade. 

                                                          See yah on the corner of Penn and Pauper..!

P.S.  Maybe we could add a Blowhard forum for Political analylist such as ***.

                                             

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    sully16's avatar - sharan
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    I Agree!100% ,First of all correct me if I am wrong but, I think not isn't it against the law to take other people credit cards number or may I say their any card number and put it out there like that invasion of privacy.You are violating their civil rights.All of you who are not bias look into it I am sure ,I am right.No NoCussing Face

    nobody is posting anyones fricken numbers off their cards, they don't even show up on receipts anymore. Time for a beer.

    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

    For a lead role in a cage?

     

                                                From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

      sully16's avatar - sharan
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      Posted: May 20, 2011, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

      The beer is for me.Cheers

      Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

      For a lead role in a cage?

       

                                                  From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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        Hey if ya think about it hes just gettin some of the (overpaid) taxes the federal government took from his winnings back, plus he cant be gettin that much a month. Let's worry about the corporations that are getting big tax breaks and making record profits. And more Michigan news, I heard Meijers let go of all their in store repair people, I believe it was around 150 of them (1 or 2 per store) a month or so ago. They claim they needed to cut costs yet they posted their biggest profit ever last year. Crazy

          rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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          Hey if ya think about it hes just gettin some of the (overpaid) taxes the federal government took from his winnings back, plus he cant be gettin that much a month. Let's worry about the corporations that are getting big tax breaks and making record profits. And more Michigan news, I heard Meijers let go of all their in store repair people, I believe it was around 150 of them (1 or 2 per store) a month or so ago. They claim they needed to cut costs yet they posted their biggest profit ever last year. Crazy

          Yeah, profits, watch them profits.

          Evil corporations, wanting to make profits.

          Who do they think they are?

          They should give those evil profits to us!

           

          And who does that food store think they are getting rid of people?

          Do they think they own the place?

          We should be able to work there as long as we want to and get whatever salary and pension and benefits we demand even if they don't need us!

          And they made too much profit  last year!


                                                       
                               
                                                   

           

           

           

           

                                                                                                             

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            Posted: May 20, 2011, 9:51 pm - IP Logged

            "Some people I talked to believe welfare and the dumbing down of America has been done on purpose."

            Oh, you got that right Sully. Keeping people on the gov't spicket keeps them voting a particular way. We've got so many people and entities in the country who are getting some kind of benefit or payment from the government, be it welfare, food stamps, SS, medicare/caid, tax breaks, subsidies, etc etc etc that no matter what they try to cut, someone is going to get pissed because they might lose their freebie.  Makes for good politics when one party says 'look at the evil other party who is trying to take your candy away from you'. Oh...and the 'children'. 'They're going to kill all the poor poor children they cut this or that.'

            Yes, I agree, it's all done on purpose. Angry

            Hi amerikan:  I don't know.  Maybe some of it was done on purpose.  But it was a huge, complex country the last half of the 20th Century and sticking fingers in dikes just wasn't able to change the directions of the tides.  I count myself as having been part of the problem, along with everyone else living in this country at the time.  But I don't know what I'd do different, and I don't know what any or all of us could have done differently to make things different now.

            I voted for Barry Goldwater in 1964.  He seemed a visionary to me at the time, but he got romped and stomped on by the scare tactics that were already going by then.  On the one hand [he wanted to take a hard line with the USSR] they portrayed him as a maniac who'd start a nuclear war, but he was one of the few major politicians of the time who vowed he'd not allow the Vietnam War to proceed if he were elected.  He said it would bleed us to death as Korea had threatened to do.

            I think by the 1964 election it might already have been too late to turn the tide.


            As for SS, I can only tell you I paid into it more than 55 years.  Today I get bits of it back every month and if I live to be 80 maybe I'll get back the amount I paid in minus interest.  I don't think of it as welfare.

            I don't think what's happened was planned, isn't a conspiracy.  At a voter level all of us knew what we thought needed doing and we were frequently wrong.  We were stupid in a lot of ways, looked for simplistic solutions to complex problems and frequently let our prides, egos, self-interest and, yes, often greed, stand in the way of what might have been good sense.

            It's not obvious to me the population of today has improved much over my generation, is wiser, more capable of finding the right directions.  Mine did a lousy job when it was our watch, and the ones coming behind might well trump what we did.


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              Posted: May 20, 2011, 9:54 pm - IP Logged

              Yeah, profits, watch them profits.

              Evil corporations, wanting to make profits.

              Who do they think they are?

              They should give those evil profits to us!

               

              And who does that food store think they are getting rid of people?

              Do they think they own the place?

              We should be able to work there as long as we want to and get whatever salary and pension and benefits we demand even if they don't need us!

              And they made too much profit  last year!

              Oh! rdgrnnr tell me it isn't so you don't mind those people losing their jobs, that mean they may have to be on the Bridge card.Meijer should be hiring since their making a profit.That's what the trigger down effect is suppose to do "Right  Rdgrnr".SadCrazy

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                And what is your point proffessor...?

                  Uh, we didn' t spend a dime on bailouts, YOUR GOVERNMENT did and how much did You say about that on your way to this forum.

                  Geez maybe all of us should be exactly like you, and start dusting the "  Dung  "

                out of our eye's and ears.

                NO we may add to the problem, but it's sissy la la's like you that are the problem.

                If you want to soapbox it, go to Washington D.C. and start your crusade. 

                                                                          See yah on the corner of Penn and Pauper..!

                P.S.  Maybe we could add a Blowhard forum for Political analylist such as ***.

                Go to Washington and start a crusade? 

                 

                No wonder the goverment (democrate and republican) get away with what they do. People like you think we need to go all the way to Washington and start a crusade to get anything done! 

                How old are you? Wait, don't tell us. Your statement has already embarrased you enough. In case you haven't realized it yet, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" is a movie. We're not actors in a soap opera on Fox news. The is not an episode of the West Wing. This is real life. Grow up.

                You know what people do in the real world? They vote. And I'm not just talking about at voting booths. You vote every day with every dicision you make. You vote with every dollar you spend. You vote with the friends you choose, the way you raise your family, the opinions you put out on public forums, etc etc.

                So while you spend your energy attacking me on a forum (sissy la la?) other, productive members of society, are getting mad, mobilizing and taking action. 

                Smoke on THAT, dog....

                I'll leave with my favorite quote in the world, taken from the Berlin Wall....

                "Many small people who in many small places do many small things can alter the face of the world"

                 

                How you do anything is how you do everything.

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                  Posted: May 20, 2011, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

                  Sully, you are magnificent!

                  We cannot proceed on the basis of "Well, the government steals and the rich steal so it's ok for us to steal too."

                  No, we have to stand against corruption from all quarters until we eliminate it.

                  We have to stop eating the crumbs from the table of corruption thrown our way to shut us up and divert our gaze from the big picture.

                  It's impossible to complain about foxes in the hen house when we have a mouth full of feathers.

                  "Well, the government steals and the rich steal so it's OK for us to steal too."

                   

                  Seems like some of us graduated from straw man college. First of all, this man isn't breaking the law, so he isn't stealing. Second of all, nobody here is condoning stealing as far as I've read. The main point is the irrelevance and the disproportionate amount of anger and vigilance this guy and others get in light of much larger and more harmful problems. What fraction of a percent of the 50 to 60 billion we spend on food stamps is unlawfully obtained? A few million? Boo hoo. 

                   

                  I think this sheds light on a much larger problem. The propensity of people to blame those that are truly at the bottom rung on the ladder for exploiting loopholes in a system that rich elitist set in place, enforce, and benefit the most from!

                   

                  Blame the slaves? Magnificent reasoning indeed. Skeptical

                  How you do anything is how you do everything.

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                    Oh! rdgrnnr tell me it isn't so you don't mind those people losing their jobs, that mean they may have to be on the Bridge card.Meijer should be hiring since their making a profit.That's what the trigger down effect is suppose to do "Right  Rdgrnr".SadCrazy

                    Louise, back in the old steam engine days of the railroad they had to shovel coal into the boiler of the locomotive to make steam to make the engines go. The guy who did that job was called a "fireman."

                    After they went from steam engines to diesel and electric they still had a fireman in the engine. Do you know why? Because the unions wouldn't let them get rid of that job position. Do you know what he did for his pay? Nothing, he just sat there because there was no more coal to shovel. The railroad had to pay a fireman on every train to sit there and do nothing because the unions said so. That went on for decades and it may still be going on, I don't know.

                    I don't know how you feel about that kind of thing but I think it's wrong.

                    If that store feels that they are needlessly paying somebody for a service they no longer need or could farm out the work a lot cheaper, then it's their right to do so.

                    And it just might be reflected on the prices of food on the shelves.

                    I remember way back when Sears Roebuck used to have a lab where they would test every product that they sold and they employed a lot of people doing that. But when the market became more competitive they had to let all those people go. That's the way the business world operates and it works well that way. There are no guarantees in our way of life but usually when one door closes, another one opens and everything works out.

                    Anyone who is willing to work hard and is not a quitter can do very well in this country.


                                                                 
                                         
                                                             

                     

                     

                     

                     

                                                                                                                       

                    "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                      Posted: May 20, 2011, 10:43 pm - IP Logged

                      "Well, the government steals and the rich steal so it's OK for us to steal too."

                       

                      Seems like some of us graduated from straw man college. First of all, this man isn't breaking the law, so he isn't stealing. Second of all, nobody here is condoning stealing as far as I've read. The main point is the irrelevance and the disproportionate amount of anger and vigilance this guy and others get in light of much larger and more harmful problems. What fraction of a percent of the 50 to 60 billion we spend on food stamps is unlawfully obtained? A few million? Boo hoo. 

                       

                      I think this sheds light on a much larger problem. The propensity of people to blame those that are truly at the bottom rung on the ladder for exploiting loopholes in a system that rich elitist set in place, enforce, and benefit the most from!

                       

                      Blame the slaves? Magnificent reasoning indeed. Skeptical

                      Ah jeeeze, another Marxist/socialist/anarchist.

                      Shouldn't you be breaking windows in downtown Seattle or something?

                      Your class warfare hysteria is old, tedious and boring. Put a lid on it.

                      Or try HuffandPuffington Post.

                      They love old and boring.

                      Try this hip zinger over there: Bush Lied - People Died.

                      Or: Where's the WMD's?

                      They're gonna love you.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

                      "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                                  --Edmund Burke

                       

                       

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                        Posted: May 20, 2011, 11:51 pm - IP Logged

                        Go to Washington and start a crusade? 

                         

                        No wonder the goverment (democrate and republican) get away with what they do. People like you think we need to go all the way to Washington and start a crusade to get anything done! 

                        How old are you? Wait, don't tell us. Your statement has already embarrased you enough. In case you haven't realized it yet, "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" is a movie. We're not actors in a soap opera on Fox news. The is not an episode of the West Wing. This is real life. Grow up.

                        You know what people do in the real world? They vote. And I'm not just talking about at voting booths. You vote every day with every dicision you make. You vote with every dollar you spend. You vote with the friends you choose, the way you raise your family, the opinions you put out on public forums, etc etc.

                        So while you spend your energy attacking me on a forum (sissy la la?) other, productive members of society, are getting mad, mobilizing and taking action. 

                        Smoke on THAT, dog....

                        I'll leave with my favorite quote in the world, taken from the Berlin Wall....

                        "Many small people who in many small places do many small things can alter the face of the world"

                         

                        Grow up?

                        Christ your still wet behind the ears son..!

                        My statement embarrased me enough, now if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black..!

                        I've been out of Vietnam longer than you've been born, cricket.

                        You lala, don't know what REAL life is. Besides You still being wet behind the ears  you might want to check that spot on the front of your pants also.

                        As far as voting, thats also happened longer than you were even thought of  by your parents.

                        I don't know who " we " is supposed to be, but the bull your trying to spread would win by a lanslide in D.C.

                        My energy is not being wasted by attacking you on a forum son, I'm mearly pointing out to the folks on this forum about wasting tax dollars by people like you, by coming on the forum and blasting everyone by saying it's THEIR fault is nothing but BULL, no matter how you spread it...!

                        And its also a shame that "QOUTE" wasn't written with you in mind.

                        Have you tried out for the comedy club where you live..?  I'd bet you make a good one..!   

                                                                                                                  Thanks for the laughs...!

                        Now, Ill leave you with a Question, taken from my book of plenty.!

                         Can you tell what the difference between a "LEMON" and a "JACKASS" is..?



                                                                     

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                          What? Years ago one of my elderly relatives applied for food stamps. His income was low enough alright but they said because he lived on almost 10 acres he could grow his own food and therefor couldn't get any food stamps.

                          I wonder what he was suppose to eat while waiting for that first crop to grow?

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                            What? Years ago one of my elderly relatives applied for food stamps. His income was low enough alright but they said because he lived on almost 10 acres he could grow his own food and therefor couldn't get any food stamps.

                            I wonder what he was suppose to eat while waiting for that first crop to grow?

                            Why wouldn't his family give him any food?


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

                            "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                              Why wouldn't his family give him any food?

                              Not if he was related to a Republican that saw socialism in the act.

                              DD