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$2M Michigan lottery winner defends use of food stamps

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Posted: May 22, 2011, 9:54 pm - IP Logged

I'll take a few of them Margaritas too if you don't mind.   Cheers

Ridge,   Sully & I know a Party is not a Party with out The Ridgster....LOL....Cheers just make sure you brink some of Tennesse finest!!!!!

    sully16's avatar - sharan
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    Posted: May 22, 2011, 10:40 pm - IP Logged

    Sully

    These people should be placed against a wall and shot dead. 

    RL

    No, thats extreme, they are not evil, in fact some are very nice people, just mis-guided and greedy, self serving, and they are not entirely to blame, the system has helped to put the notions in their heads.

    I have a problem with the fraud, I don't have a problem with someone who has been hit hard and needs a little help, I am following 3 cases where the Department of human resources has fired 3 employees for mis-use of stamps, by putting friends and family on the plan.

    Polititions are most certainly to blame, they want class warfare, if they get the votes, they keep their goodies,

    Big corporations, the one the governments will tell you are bad and greedy, well, the ones that manufacture , distribute , retail, wholesale, anything to do with food and beverage that is allowed on food stamps are also raking it in., Ironically these corporations that the government wants you to hate, is supported by the people via foodstamps, HELLO, IS ANYONE LISTENING, '...IMAGINE THIS CONVERSATION, " I hate big greedy corporations they should pay more in taxes, now lets go but a case of chocolate chip cookies., people unknowingly continue to support the big corps, they all love to hate.

    I believe in capitolism, I believe you should be able to make as much as you can, but I also believe there has been a twisted sinister twist put on our way of life, I won't name this company, starts with a W, they love the part time employee, they invented it, hire someone for 9 dollars a hour , only have them work for 15 hours, help to put them on welfare, TA, DA, THE TAX PAYERS SUPPORT THEIR WORKFORCE. PONZI !!!!!!not the only offenders mind you.

    We need full time jobs, If you go into any second grade classroom in America, and talk to those kids, they have dreams, they have wonderful ideas and will tell you all that they hope for, sadly somewhere along the line, those dreams  disappear, nobody says they want to grow up to go on welfare, 

    The woman running a catering business, I asked her , why don't you become a real business, she said she's afraid she won't know how to run or operate a business. Fear of failure is holding her back, from having maybe a very successful business. she know how to cook and she knows how to get contacts, its all the licensing , laws, permits, simple stuff., stuff that should have been learned in High School.

    Just today I had my Romanians come in, 3 guys who like to talk and joke, nice guys, came to America for the food, I see people from all the world, dining at out tables.

    Its big business, it will have to up to each individual to say, no I deserve more than having food thrown at me.  I want my kids to see there dreams fulfilled.

    I get frustrated, because I see the waste and stupity everyday, one bad decision maker after another, and I wouldn't really care until I see whats left of our paychecks, it's middle class america thats paying for this non-sense.

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      Posted: May 22, 2011, 10:44 pm - IP Logged

      It's not really right though. Not everyone getting food stamps are just being greedy. I myself have food stamps. I don't even qualify for much help at all (40.00 a month), and what I do get, I am humiliated to use, but greatful that I get any help at all. I don't want to be on food stamps, if I could make it on my own without them I would. 

      Not all of us are unemployed or not trying to better ourselves as you say. As a matter of fact, the majority of people I know on them ARE employed, and/or ARE trying to better themselves.

      I personally have 2 college degrees, almost a third (thank god for federal grants), and can't find a job that makes me enough to live on. Jobs are hard to come by, at least where I live in Ohio I have to live at home with my parents cause I don't even make enough to pay rent for my own place. Did you know 80-something percent of recent college graduates live at home? 

      As for living at home, my parents barely scrape by because of me living at home and my brother who is struggling too (they support him and his two boys). But you know what? I love them so much and I'm eternally greatful for not just what they do for us, but for the help I recieve each month which also helps them. I don't hog it, I don't get much, but what I get I hand to them to buy with cause they are nice enough to help me out.

      Also I work, it took me 6 months to find an entry level job, even with my two degrees and I have an excellent work record. I'm a full time student, and I'm trying hard. If I won the lottery like he did I would have turned in my card, even if they said I could keep it. Why? Cause I want to be independant, I want to support myself. Unfortunately, I can't right now. 

      And as for mooching, if I was like that, then I wouldn't work. I could be getting disability because of my mental health problems. I'm bipolar I, borderline personality disorder (which I only qualify as because I don't relate well to others and I'm a cutter, mainly the cutting), I have anxiety disorder, and just got diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder a few months ago because of an incident that occurred earlier this year. My issues make it hard to keep a job because of hospital stays, and psychiatrist (every other week) and counseling (every week) appointments (which I pay for out of my own pocket with my little part time job, no help with insurance). 

      Also, my psychiatric bills mean nothing, they don't count for getting help, cause all they go on here is household bills, and they use your gross income, not what you actually take home.

      As for an example of someone abusing the system, I know a man that brings home 2000.00 a WEEK, and still gets 400.00 in food stamps a month. Explain that one to me...cause that's b.s. to me. So yes, there are some people out there, and they make me very mad. They make the rest of us look bad cause that select few are greedy.

      Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that not ALL are trying to abuse the system, matter of fact a good portion of us ARE trying to be productive members of society and get to where we don't need the food stamps anymore. 

      Please don't judge us all on what some people do...we're not all like you say....SOME are yes, but not all.                                                      Leaving

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        Posted: May 22, 2011, 11:04 pm - IP Logged

        I just want to put my two cents in..... I know everyone that receives food stamps is not trying to cheat the system but I know quite a few people that receive food stamps and have several kids so they can literally sell a good portion for cash and still have enough left over to buy food. They need to completely overhaul the welfare program. You have people receiving section 8 but should not qualify. This one person I know bought a brand new car last year, receives Section 8, foodstamps, medicaid and has gone on trips all over the country. How is this even possible ? It's off-topic I know but abuse of the system needs to stop.

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          Not talking about the poor who need the help, takling about the people who abuse the system and live

          high on the hog so to speak.  These people are stealing from me the way I see it.  I am paying for them

          to do nothing.  I would give the shirt off my back to help someone who really needed it but if I found out

          they were getting shirts from everyone and then selling them that's another story.  I know people who

          worked hard everyday of there lives and had to do without at times just to get by.  Then there are people

          who have never worked a day in there lives and want me to support them.  Maybe they are the smart ones,

          I think I will stop working, go on public assistance, have a dozen kids, but do a few drugs first hoping that

          one or more of them will be disabled, "they pay more money for a disabled child or maybe even draw SS" 

          Just let the rest run loose in the back yard without dippers and just hose them off a couple times a day.  Save

          all that dipper money.  Take the kids dumster diving when they get low on food,  trade in my food stamps for

          money which I could use to play the lottery.   Sounds like a plan.             

           

                SOMETHING IS BAD WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE AND I HOPE I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES IT.

           

          RL

          Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

          I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

          they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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            RL-RANDOMLOGIC's avatar - usafce

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            Posted: May 23, 2011, 3:36 am - IP Logged

            No, thats extreme, they are not evil, in fact some are very nice people, just mis-guided and greedy, self serving, and they are not entirely to blame, the system has helped to put the notions in their heads.

            I have a problem with the fraud, I don't have a problem with someone who has been hit hard and needs a little help, I am following 3 cases where the Department of human resources has fired 3 employees for mis-use of stamps, by putting friends and family on the plan.

            Polititions are most certainly to blame, they want class warfare, if they get the votes, they keep their goodies,

            Big corporations, the one the governments will tell you are bad and greedy, well, the ones that manufacture , distribute , retail, wholesale, anything to do with food and beverage that is allowed on food stamps are also raking it in., Ironically these corporations that the government wants you to hate, is supported by the people via foodstamps, HELLO, IS ANYONE LISTENING, '...IMAGINE THIS CONVERSATION, " I hate big greedy corporations they should pay more in taxes, now lets go but a case of chocolate chip cookies., people unknowingly continue to support the big corps, they all love to hate.

            I believe in capitolism, I believe you should be able to make as much as you can, but I also believe there has been a twisted sinister twist put on our way of life, I won't name this company, starts with a W, they love the part time employee, they invented it, hire someone for 9 dollars a hour , only have them work for 15 hours, help to put them on welfare, TA, DA, THE TAX PAYERS SUPPORT THEIR WORKFORCE. PONZI !!!!!!not the only offenders mind you.

            We need full time jobs, If you go into any second grade classroom in America, and talk to those kids, they have dreams, they have wonderful ideas and will tell you all that they hope for, sadly somewhere along the line, those dreams  disappear, nobody says they want to grow up to go on welfare, 

            The woman running a catering business, I asked her , why don't you become a real business, she said she's afraid she won't know how to run or operate a business. Fear of failure is holding her back, from having maybe a very successful business. she know how to cook and she knows how to get contacts, its all the licensing , laws, permits, simple stuff., stuff that should have been learned in High School.

            Just today I had my Romanians come in, 3 guys who like to talk and joke, nice guys, came to America for the food, I see people from all the world, dining at out tables.

            Its big business, it will have to up to each individual to say, no I deserve more than having food thrown at me.  I want my kids to see there dreams fulfilled.

            I get frustrated, because I see the waste and stupity everyday, one bad decision maker after another, and I wouldn't really care until I see whats left of our paychecks, it's middle class america thats paying for this non-sense.

            sully

            I agree and have no problem with anyone that truly needs help, I wish I had more to give.  The ones I am

            talking about don't need the help and are making it harder on the ones who do.  I think of it this way, what

            if you were with a band of others in the old days going accross the desert by wagon.  There is enough water

            to make the trip if everyone agrees to not waste any.  You wake up in the middle of the night and see someone

            taking a bath, soaking in a tub filled to the brim then to top it off they dump it out when they are done.  Now

            the lives of everyone is at stake.  Too many people don't care about anyone else except for themselves and 

            don't care if you have to work two jobs to get by.  You mentioned a lady who received $400.00 in tips for one

            night and still was using food stamps.  BAM! BAM! BAM! Give that job to another.

            RL

            PS. I am not harping on only those who are abusing food stamps but all the people who are raping this country

            to make a quick buck, selling the rest of us out.

            Working on my Ph.D.  "University of hard Knocks"

            I will consider the opinion that my winnings are a product of chance if you are willing to consider

            they are not.  Many great discoveries come while searching for something else

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              Posted: May 23, 2011, 9:12 am - IP Logged

                WOW !!! How sad we as a nation have become. This is America ? Freedom comes at a price and that includes the sacrifice we must all make to better our nation.

               I too see the raping and pillaging of "the system" everyday, yet I will continue to support the sacrifices needed to help those truly in need. Everyone of us, regardless of our circumstances, must make some sacrifice to better our country and ourselves. To some a conscience is an annoyance.

              "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." JFK

                Let the good times roll...

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                It's not really right though. Not everyone getting food stamps are just being greedy. I myself have food stamps. I don't even qualify for much help at all (40.00 a month), and what I do get, I am humiliated to use, but greatful that I get any help at all. I don't want to be on food stamps, if I could make it on my own without them I would. 

                Not all of us are unemployed or not trying to better ourselves as you say. As a matter of fact, the majority of people I know on them ARE employed, and/or ARE trying to better themselves.

                I personally have 2 college degrees, almost a third (thank god for federal grants), and can't find a job that makes me enough to live on. Jobs are hard to come by, at least where I live in Ohio I have to live at home with my parents cause I don't even make enough to pay rent for my own place. Did you know 80-something percent of recent college graduates live at home? 

                As for living at home, my parents barely scrape by because of me living at home and my brother who is struggling too (they support him and his two boys). But you know what? I love them so much and I'm eternally greatful for not just what they do for us, but for the help I recieve each month which also helps them. I don't hog it, I don't get much, but what I get I hand to them to buy with cause they are nice enough to help me out.

                Also I work, it took me 6 months to find an entry level job, even with my two degrees and I have an excellent work record. I'm a full time student, and I'm trying hard. If I won the lottery like he did I would have turned in my card, even if they said I could keep it. Why? Cause I want to be independant, I want to support myself. Unfortunately, I can't right now. 

                And as for mooching, if I was like that, then I wouldn't work. I could be getting disability because of my mental health problems. I'm bipolar I, borderline personality disorder (which I only qualify as because I don't relate well to others and I'm a cutter, mainly the cutting), I have anxiety disorder, and just got diagnosed with Post traumatic stress disorder a few months ago because of an incident that occurred earlier this year. My issues make it hard to keep a job because of hospital stays, and psychiatrist (every other week) and counseling (every week) appointments (which I pay for out of my own pocket with my little part time job, no help with insurance). 

                Also, my psychiatric bills mean nothing, they don't count for getting help, cause all they go on here is household bills, and they use your gross income, not what you actually take home.

                As for an example of someone abusing the system, I know a man that brings home 2000.00 a WEEK, and still gets 400.00 in food stamps a month. Explain that one to me...cause that's b.s. to me. So yes, there are some people out there, and they make me very mad. They make the rest of us look bad cause that select few are greedy.

                Anyway, what I'm trying to say is that not ALL are trying to abuse the system, matter of fact a good portion of us ARE trying to be productive members of society and get to where we don't need the food stamps anymore. 

                Please don't judge us all on what some people do...we're not all like you say....SOME are yes, but not all.                                                      Leaving

                I don't think anyone here would deny you aid with your situation. That's what it's designed for - to help people who really need it.

                It's the ones that scam the system because "they can" or because "everybody else is doing it anyway" or "the rich do it" or "the government bailed out (fill in the blank)" that some of us object to.

                It's easy to come up with an excuse to be corrupt.

                To our shame, what's becoming increasingly uncommon is "doing the right thing".


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

                "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                  rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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                  Ridge,   Sully & I know a Party is not a Party with out The Ridgster....LOL....Cheers just make sure you brink some of Tennesse finest!!!!!

                  You won't have to tell me twice about that, Dallas.

                  Tennessee may have one of the worst lotteries in the country but we dang sure got the best whiskey! Cheers


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

                  "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

                                                                                                              --Edmund Burke

                   

                   

                    sully16's avatar - sharan
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                    Posted: May 23, 2011, 10:46 am - IP Logged

                    You won't have to tell me twice about that, Dallas.

                    Tennessee may have one of the worst lotteries in the country but we dang sure got the best whiskey! Cheers

                    My friend Jack, 32 oz's of courage and pride..Brownsville station.

                     HyperBe Happy.

                      sully16's avatar - sharan
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                      Posted: May 23, 2011, 12:19 pm - IP Logged

                      @Sully16

                       

                      ....Don't you EVER leave that JOB, we the public appreciate and need someone like you, You are an important instrument in getting the truth out about this DEPLORABLE ENTITLEMENT system. Your observant detection is what history's greatest detectives & private eye's were made of, you given us a real "birds-eye" view of what a hard working cashier is dealing with on a regular basis and just how much it takes to LOOK THE OTHER WAY........

                      Thats very nice, but I don't want to be the food stamp police, I will exercise my voting rights and vote for common sense, I don't want people telling me what I can or cannot eat, wear, drive, set my thermostat, watch on tv, etc.

                      I know this is off topic, but in my son's school, any kid who doesn't recycle their foam lunch tray , gets detention,.....inducing fear to get people to bend to your will is another problem we face.

                      I recycle because I believe its the right thing to do, not because I am afraid of what will happen if I don't.

                      The we will fine you ,if you don't recycle rumor is going around the city. I already have identity thieves going through the garbage, do I really need recycling police?

                      I won't look the other way on crime, but I don't want to spend my time trying to find it either.

                       HyperBe Happy.

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                        I do not like the fact that this man is getting food stamps either,but our gov gives all of our money away to bankers(RICH  ELITES) ,other countries,non citizens etc..This man is right to say that if it is legal,it is legal..The gov pushes these programs on the American  public in order for us to be dumb slaves that takes handouts from them,it makes us dependant on them so they have more control.It steals our freedom and our free thinking when we take things from them on an every day basis.. In the 1990s another man from Michigan won about 14 mill and he had been  getting welfare checks.The state wanted him to pay the money back and he said no,he did not have to and he was right,there was no law that stated he should give it back if he wins the lottery ..The gov gives this stuff out ,they start this give away mentality,so if they would just quit it,there would be no more problems with people taking it and we all would be better off for it and we could have more of the money that we work for instead of it being funneled through a government office....