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Irish NY lottery winner's estranged husband wants half

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time*treat's avatar - radar

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Posted: September 7, 2011, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

All I can say, and I said it when a similar story about the lady won a huge Megamillions jackpot in Idaho, and that is that what's fair is fair.  If the jackpot winner was a man who had an estranged wife, I am sure she would go after her half and others would say she is entitled to half the cash.  So now that the shoe is on the other foot, I still think it fits.  Does it disgust some that just because he is a man who walked out on his family that that somehow makes him unworthy of sharing in her success?  Sure, but it doesn't change the legal fact that until two people are divorced, their lives are still legally entertwined.  So give that man his half.  He is not stupid.  She tried to pawn him off by pitching him $1M!  I would have done the same thing he did as I would want that additional $4M in my bank accounts.  Way to go Mr. Eisel...score one for gender equality!  Now time for the name calling jokes...what rhymes with eisel....?

But it must sure blow for her in that she won all those millions and still has to work at that joint just to pay bills...and everyone knows she is a multi-millionaire.  Guess that is a lesson for all those out there who are estranged from a partner...go and get that divorce filed and finalized.  Had she done that, she would not still be waiting to buy that house 9 months later or wondering how much she is going to end up with.  But you have to think that she knew this might happen as she said she planned to continue working.  Also, score another win for claiming prize anonymously.  Had she claimed as a part of a trust or LLC, the hubby might have never had a clue (this would have also required her to actually not tell her children she won the lottery...just that they need not worry about money.).  She should have just filed for divorce before even going in to claim the prize, encouraged a speedy divorce, then claimed the prize.  But sometimes people's emotions get the best of them and they act impulsively.

Had she claimed as a part of a trust or LLC, the hubby might have never had a clue (this would have also required her to actually not tell her children she won the lottery...just that they need not worry about money.).  She should have just filed for divorce before even going in to claim the prize, encouraged a speedy divorce, then claimed the prize.

That would be fraud. No No

Good chance the maneuvers would cost her even more than a straight jackpot split, after the judge and lawyers got through. I'm thinking there's a story in the archives of someone trying this very thing. Roll Eyes

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    jeffrey's avatar - moon
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    Posted: September 7, 2011, 9:20 pm - IP Logged

    Ms. Daly should not have to pay her estranged jerk anything.  He had already left the family a year before so unless he chipped in for the ticket with the other people, what makes him entitled to anything.  And why didn't he file for divorce earlier, it seems that he is a money grubbing person to file after he found out that she won.  Did he support his family at all, it didn't sound like it from the story I read. 

    So does this man owe child support or anything else?  She even offered him more than a million to end lawsuit so she could buy a nice place for her children to live.

    Can she contest the divorce on grounds of desertion?  If so, could she file without having to pay him and unfreeze her assests?  If it was me I would hire the best lawyer possible & I would not have even offered him anything.  I would donate money to specific charities & since the IRS has already taken out taxes, I would also donate gifts to family & friends leave enough money in my acct then put the rest in investments and overseas bank.

     

    Good luck Patricia Daly!!  I will be praying for you.  The Man Upstairs will be looking out for you.

     

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      Posted: September 7, 2011, 10:18 pm - IP Logged

      Pay him half, hit him for back child support, future child support and college funds and divorce fees.

      Ditto. Nail him to the wall for leaving her with 3 small children to raise by herself. For that alone, he should forfeit at least 50% of his 50%, then get thrown in jail for failure to pay child support.

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        Posted: September 7, 2011, 10:22 pm - IP Logged

        GOD, if You're listening......

        I'm partial to him choaking to the here after on a chicken bone.........

        I most definately will not mind.

        It's not about her (the wife).

        It's all about the kids and how they are still being deprived of quality time with their custodial parent because of...........

        GREED!!!!!

        Heck..... I'll even settle for his hit and fly-away exit by a bird up side the head. (Make it a big-fat-frozen penguin.) lol

        I'm not picky....

        Nor do I ask for too much.....

        Just the unreasonable.......... lol

        AMEN! Blue Angel

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          Posted: September 7, 2011, 10:38 pm - IP Logged

          If you don't won't the Man or Woman before you Buy the Ticket better get a Divorce because law is when you are married to that person it is equally theirs too.

          Contingent on certain states.

          Its not a "Law" per se that all things are equal in a divorce. Feel free to google marital state  laws and the dissolution rulings.  ANd to answer your next question, hiding of assets during a divorce is not looked well upon by a judge. The guy can now file for alimony ...now aint that a hoot! :)

          Yes I detest alimony in all fairness. Its a lame way for either party to be dependent on monetary gain without working for it. But then so is the lottery :)

          Like it or not, this man has a case due to the regulations of the good citizens of the state of New York.

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            Posted: September 7, 2011, 10:41 pm - IP Logged

            Had she claimed as a part of a trust or LLC, the hubby might have never had a clue (this would have also required her to actually not tell her children she won the lottery...just that they need not worry about money.).  She should have just filed for divorce before even going in to claim the prize, encouraged a speedy divorce, then claimed the prize.

            That would be fraud. No No

            Good chance the maneuvers would cost her even more than a straight jackpot split, after the judge and lawyers got through. I'm thinking there's a story in the archives of someone trying this very thing. Roll Eyes

            time*treat, I am so anti-fraud that I would not propose anything fraudulent.  If she wouldn't have gone forward to claim the prize but instead had focused on getting her divorce finalized, she would not have materially had more assets to share at time of divorce.  Remember, there is no "lottery registration" requirement that identifies the winner immediately after the winning drawing.  The hypothetical fact she would have come forward after the divorce was final would have sufficient plausible deniability to avoid any notion of fraud as there have been many lottery winners who discovered they had won just days before the expiration date approached.  My recommendation to not tell children is also sound.  Would you want your young children going around telling the world their mommy is a jackpot lottery winner?  Children cannot keep a secret and this knowledge not only puts them at risk, but also the family at large.  When I win, even my mother would not know I won.

            Get MONEY!!! Winning a JACKPOT lottery is all the HOPE and CHANGE I desire!!!  NOW give me MONEY!US Flag

            The guy who won the presidency in 2008 really won the lottery...he is now millions richer, travels in first class style, and even has a staff that would be the envy of the richest Powerball winner (she has a staff of 2). Every night he goes to sleep, he probably plays the close of Dave Chappelle's Show: I'm rich beyatch!

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              Posted: September 7, 2011, 10:43 pm - IP Logged

              The fact that he left her with 3 small kids should be accounted for in the lawsuit. And as much as I detest him, we don't know the full story - maybe she was mentally abusive to him and forced him to leave.

              I don't think he should get half, but the $1 million she originally offered him should suffice. However, after lawyer fees, it will definitely be decreased!

              "Don't be a schmuck, always take the cash." -Coin Toss

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                Posted: September 7, 2011, 10:53 pm - IP Logged

                Pay him half, hit him for back child support, future child support and college funds and divorce fees.

                I like that.

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                  Posted: September 7, 2011, 11:04 pm - IP Logged

                  No Prenup, you gotta pay, although personally I don't think she should pay him a cent, it's her money, she should be free to do what she wants with it...

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                    Posted: September 7, 2011, 11:08 pm - IP Logged

                    I guess if you win a lottery, you would be better off if you are a single. You will collect all the money for yourself and spend or save it as you please.

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                      Posted: September 7, 2011, 11:28 pm - IP Logged

                      I agree the man should get half. Men have been complaining about this law of splitting property into two after divorces for the longest time and nobody seemed to care. Maybe now if enough women join in, the legislators will be forced to find a formula that is seen to be fair to both sides.

                      Also it will force couples to think twice before getting married.

                      That money's gone fo ever

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                        The fact that he left her with 3 small kids should be accounted for in the lawsuit. And as much as I detest him, we don't know the full story - maybe she was mentally abusive to him and forced him to leave.

                        I don't think he should get half, but the $1 million she originally offered him should suffice. However, after lawyer fees, it will definitely be decreased!

                        If the shoe were on the other foot (the husband was the lottery winner and the wife estranged from him), she would be expecting and getting half and many here would say she deserves it.  Why does that change when it is a man who is asking for half the assets?  You simply can't have it one way and not the other as that is blatant discrimination and legal bias...both of which are unconstitutional and against the law.  Just because he walked away (do any of you know why he walked away?  If not, then I don't think your commentary is informed or warranted) does not make him "the bad guy" who doesn't deserve anything.  If he was/is delinquent on child support payments, I am sure he will make amends now that he will get half the proceeds.  Another response to time*treat, the fact she had offerred him $1M and forgiveness of any past and future support payments could be seen as a form of bribery.  The man is entitled to half the assets; he should get his half and then pay his obligations (if the lottery wants to deduct those automatically and send to appropriate agency for distribution to the wife, so be it).  I just find it interesting that people voice such bitterness and hatred against men in situations like this when barely a peep would be uttered if it were the woman.  Did anyone see "Pursuit of Happyness?"  Chris Gardner was turned away from many a shelter because they only catered to women with children, so if you are a man in the same situation you are just left to fend for you and your child as he had to do on many occasions.  So as a man who is usually very objective, the law accords this man half of the assets so that is what he should get and pay what the law requires of him.  It is only fair.  To say otherwise indicates people are fine with a double standard.  I am not.

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                        The guy who won the presidency in 2008 really won the lottery...he is now millions richer, travels in first class style, and even has a staff that would be the envy of the richest Powerball winner (she has a staff of 2). Every night he goes to sleep, he probably plays the close of Dave Chappelle's Show: I'm rich beyatch!

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                          I've been on the receiving end of comparable situations imposed by schemin' wimmins before. There's a lot of wimmins out there livin' high on the hog in houses I bought for em.

                          Wimmins can be evil. Lawd have mercy, wimmins can be evil.

                          But I would rather see this woman get to keep her money and not give it to a man that walked out on his kids.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

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                            If the shoe were on the other foot (the husband was the lottery winner and the wife estranged from him), she would be expecting and getting half and many here would say she deserves it.  Why does that change when it is a man who is asking for half the assets?  You simply can't have it one way and not the other as that is blatant discrimination and legal bias...both of which are unconstitutional and against the law.  Just because he walked away (do any of you know why he walked away?  If not, then I don't think your commentary is informed or warranted) does not make him "the bad guy" who doesn't deserve anything.  If he was/is delinquent on child support payments, I am sure he will make amends now that he will get half the proceeds.  Another response to time*treat, the fact she had offerred him $1M and forgiveness of any past and future support payments could be seen as a form of bribery.  The man is entitled to half the assets; he should get his half and then pay his obligations (if the lottery wants to deduct those automatically and send to appropriate agency for distribution to the wife, so be it).  I just find it interesting that people voice such bitterness and hatred against men in situations like this when barely a peep would be uttered if it were the woman.  Did anyone see "Pursuit of Happyness?"  Chris Gardner was turned away from many a shelter because they only catered to women with children, so if you are a man in the same situation you are just left to fend for you and your child as he had to do on many occasions.  So as a man who is usually very objective, the law accords this man half of the assets so that is what he should get and pay what the law requires of him.  It is only fair.  To say otherwise indicates people are fine with a double standard.  I am not.

                            We're basically on the same page. A lot of people don't get that (in most states) without a pre-nup, whatever is acquired while the marriage is valid (whether or not you're happy with, or even on speaking terms with the spouse) is community property.

                            A winning ticket bought while the marriage is in force is community property, even if it is cashed after a divorce is finalized.

                            For a bit of extra spit in the eye, if you are married to someone whose ex is collecting means/income-based alimony, guess who gets a "raise" because of you & your new spouse's jackpot? That's right, the ex.

                            In some states, part of your regular wages can be taken right out of your pay to go towards your new partners old "obligations" of alimony or child-support.

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                              Posted: September 8, 2011, 8:17 am - IP Logged

                              Scared    Puke

                              Money on freeze???

                              OK this is BS. Now, I know life is unfair. 

                              Folks, the law is the law. Pay the guy 50% and MOVE ON!

                              All these years of financial anguish is not worth it.

                              I Agree!

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