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Ct. Powerball lottery winners signed affidavit swearing they are only members of trust

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Posted: December 7, 2011, 5:23 pm - IP Logged

Looks like a job for Seal Team 6 to raid their compound and obtain evidence of their cover up. Seriously though, who cares if they are trying to cover up. Someone won, it was claimed, and jackpot resets. End of story. And also to people who are saying how can they split a one dollar ticket.. well if you had an agreement with others to take turn buying the lotto, you can split the winnings into however many you please, even if it's just a dollar. This is what they call fractions people. 

I agree with you T12U...the real owner of the ticket doen't want the spotlight on him/her...no people calling your house at 3 a.m. .....nobody begging outside your door as your just getting into the car to go get some milk... Yes ....I would love to hit a jackpot but i dont want and never will want the spotlight....but i do want a ride in Todd's vett..lol..I just want to be left alone, to go throug life as the average  Joe..thats it ....So yes i would hide it at all possible from the news people..I Agree!PartyUS FlagPartyNoel

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    Posted: December 7, 2011, 5:26 pm - IP Logged

    still not buying it. they just claimed that no one ineligible to win it didn't. doesn't  mean they aren't covering for someone eligible. having trouble with the 1.00 ticket split 3 ways. makes no sense at all. don't care but still something's rotten in denmark on this one.

    I agree.

    Here's another "fishy" part of the whole thing.  The rumours surfaced after a guy named Gladstone, who is a personal friend of one of the three winners, and who also rents them the office space their firm occupys, immediately blabed to the press that it was not them who really won.  Why would he do that????  What's his motivation for doing such a thing????  He couldnt gain anything by doing it.  Why would a guy who is supposedly a friend make up a story like that, and then run to the newspapers with it????

    They did all the right things that somebody who won a multi-million dollar jackpot and wants to remain anonymous would do.  Waited a while before claiming the money, hired a lawyer, set up a trust fund etc.  And then they appear in public by showing up at the press conference???  I dont get that at all.  And at that press conference they dont want to say much??? If that's the case they should have stayed home and let their lawyer handle it all.

    I dont care either, and it's their money now.  They can darn well do with it as they please. But the whole thing still smells fishy to me.

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      Posted: December 7, 2011, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

      I agree with you T12U...the real owner of the ticket doen't want the spotlight on him/her...no people calling your house at 3 a.m. .....nobody begging outside your door as your just getting into the car to go get some milk... Yes ....I would love to hit a jackpot but i dont want and never will want the spotlight....but i do want a ride in Todd's vett..lol..I just want to be left alone, to go throug life as the average  Joe..thats it ....So yes i would hide it at all possible from the news people..I Agree!PartyUS FlagPartyNoel

      totally agree,but are you still the average joe after you win ?

      what i'm tryin to say is does the average joe ever win ?

      and does he stay average ? Wink

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        Posted: December 7, 2011, 6:21 pm - IP Logged

        I agree with you T12U...the real owner of the ticket doen't want the spotlight on him/her...no people calling your house at 3 a.m. .....nobody begging outside your door as your just getting into the car to go get some milk... Yes ....I would love to hit a jackpot but i dont want and never will want the spotlight....but i do want a ride in Todd's vett..lol..I just want to be left alone, to go throug life as the average  Joe..thats it ....So yes i would hide it at all possible from the news people..I Agree!PartyUS FlagPartyNoel

        You got it.  It's gotta be on a nice day so we can ride with the top down.  Cool

         

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          Posted: December 7, 2011, 6:40 pm - IP Logged

          You got it.  It's gotta be on a nice day so we can ride with the top down.  Cool

          is it a c6?

          this sounds crazy and is.

          i just remembered my 78 vet,

          and doing 140 mph on the g.s.p. going south

           where it crosses over the egg harbor.

          still scares me to think i did it.

          don't know what got in to me.

          esp. knowing there might be a trooper on the cape may side of the bridge.

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            Posted: December 7, 2011, 8:05 pm - IP Logged

            some of you are right that we shouldn't care if they are covering for someone who has irs problems or whatever or not. it's just that the lengths they are going to explain this seems fishy. and i don't care no one splits a 1.00 ticket 3 ways (i believe ridge that only 1 was bought) especially these rich guys would at least throw in 5.00 min apiece and would have purchased 3 tickets with 5 lines each.(not single separate tickets at a gas station) what would be their motivation to buy single tickets. the real winner must really trust these guys as they could make off with whole booty seemingly.

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              Posted: December 7, 2011, 11:14 pm - IP Logged

              This is nobody's business, but the winner's !!!

              Bash

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                Posted: December 8, 2011, 12:09 am - IP Logged

                Well, maybe they normally buy ten tickets and bought 9 at one store and the 10th at another. Maybe they already had their their tickets and the guy decided to buy one more on a hunch. I don't buy all my tickets at the same store all the time. Sometimes I'll go to different stores the same day.

                I think the only reason there is such a big to-do about all this is because, being money managers they took their time getting everything in order, instead of rushing down to cash the ticket 10 minutes after the drawing like some people would. And the lottery expects people to do.

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                  Posted: December 8, 2011, 11:07 am - IP Logged

                  This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

                  Smart lottery winners form trust to claim their winnings.  They send an attorney to the lottery headquarters to claim the prize in trust, so that ONLY the name of the trust is revealed.  And they tell NO ONE, especially relatives.

                  If you ever win a lottery and you are single, the only person you should ever marry is someone who was truly in love with you BEFORE you won the jackpot!

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                    Posted: December 8, 2011, 11:09 am - IP Logged

                    This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

                    I Agree!

                     

                    That is one thing that is good about living in Kansas you can stay anonymous!

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                      Posted: December 8, 2011, 2:51 pm - IP Logged

                      This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

                      Hey rundown,

                      Just my opionion but these 3 guys would have been anonymous if they didn't show up at the press conference. The only entity who would have known their identity would be the IRS and the Lottery Commission. At least that is what I read somewhere online.

                      Even if you claim the money under a trust they'd be the only ones to know the true identity. I read they do a social security number sweep to see if you owe child support or income taxes. Then they'll deduct that amount from your winnings. Have you heard that before?

                      Golfer

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                        Posted: December 8, 2011, 2:58 pm - IP Logged

                        This just shows that the only true way to remain anonymous is by winning the lottery in a state that allows anonymity!

                        rundown you can remain anonymous using the trust

                        these 3 just came out and told   the world

                        ofc for prioritizing purposes of their business for advertisement

                        via announcing who they are and what their businesses yes

                        the fact is these people use a trust with in a trust that is one of the most brilliant ways to hide whoever the real winners are

                         

                        the lottery itself only has access to the first trust papers

                        as when you claim with the trust the lottery gets to see the trust papers make sure it's real trust claiming

                         

                        the second trust is even so a freedom of information act could not find out the real beneficiaries are because the government does not have access to the second trust

                        the real beneficiaries are in the second trust even the third trust if there is one


                        they can swear up and down left and right all they want the fact is I believe they had earlier orders by the real winner to decoy themselves as the real winners

                        they are just following orders

                        if they wish to hide who they are great fantastic job well done, I just don't like them trying to you know have these clowns try to pass off as the the real winners when I know for fact they're full of it

                         actually try to fool anybody at all  please future winners please try to fake it better.

                         

                        Three Musketeers, the Three Stooges that these people are trying to claim they're the only winners

                        now these people had two different trust set up

                        the first trust is just a decoy the money goes in second trust

                        and it's going to take a court order ever get the real winners names as no one has access to the second trust

                        and there's no way in hell that is going to happen

                        mostly because it's none of our business or anyone else's business who the real winners are

                        but when you're trying to tell me  flat out that you're the only winners when I know for Everything you have done is textbook trust  defense to prevent the real winner from being found out by anyone

                        let's take a close look at the facts

                        these 3 Money managers waited over three weeks pretty much almost a month to claim

                        the problem with that is after two weeks you were losing bank interest that is money you could have been earning by taking all the cash and having it sit basically in some banks account collecting money for your

                        instead they choose to wait over two weeks thereby losing money they could have been earning interest with

                         

                        The fact is these people have from the very start not been a bright fact is there just advertising for their business that is likely went public claiming they are the three winners in their managing the money

                        now if you're the only three real winners in you're going to use a trust within a  other trust thereby making it near impossible for anyone but your lawyer your bank and yourselves to know who you are

                        they had the perfect defense,time I know we could ever the first trust the sole trustee of the first trust could just another lawyer the second trust we got the money and in the second trust can be managed by the money managers and then a third trust could be created to give it to whoever the hell else you want

                         

                        the fact is logic to say these guys are nothing but the freaking front for the real winner they wanted to advertise their business exactly what they did 

                        however people went and leaked the story and everyone in that area of Connecticut knows it's complete nonsense that therapy only three winners for cry out  loud

                        their jobs are to manage other people's money for them large amounts .

                        No bees, no honey.

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                          Posted: December 8, 2011, 3:05 pm - IP Logged

                          is it a c6?

                          this sounds crazy and is.

                          i just remembered my 78 vet,

                          and doing 140 mph on the g.s.p. going south

                           where it crosses over the egg harbor.

                          still scares me to think i did it.

                          don't know what got in to me.

                          esp. knowing there might be a trooper on the cape may side of the bridge.

                          No, it's a C5.  I'm actually not that big a fan of the C6 design - I much prefer the "sexier" C5.

                          It's easy to get up to high speeds very quickly in a Vette, because they're super-stable, even at twice the speed limit.

                           

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                            Posted: December 8, 2011, 9:39 pm - IP Logged

                            You got it.  It's gotta be on a nice day so we can ride with the top down.  Cool

                            Thanks buddy

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                              Posted: December 9, 2011, 10:26 pm - IP Logged

                              I agree.

                              Here's another "fishy" part of the whole thing.  The rumours surfaced after a guy named Gladstone, who is a personal friend of one of the three winners, and who also rents them the office space their firm occupys, immediately blabed to the press that it was not them who really won.  Why would he do that????  What's his motivation for doing such a thing????  He couldnt gain anything by doing it.  Why would a guy who is supposedly a friend make up a story like that, and then run to the newspapers with it????

                              They did all the right things that somebody who won a multi-million dollar jackpot and wants to remain anonymous would do.  Waited a while before claiming the money, hired a lawyer, set up a trust fund etc.  And then they appear in public by showing up at the press conference???  I dont get that at all.  And at that press conference they dont want to say much??? If that's the case they should have stayed home and let their lawyer handle it all.

                              I dont care either, and it's their money now.  They can darn well do with it as they please. But the whole thing still smells fishy to me.

                              Hi GiveFive,

                              Your comments make the most sense to me. I don't know why the others can't feel it. Why would the landlord lie? He's got nothing to gain.

                              Nothing wrong with anonyminty (we all know how to do that) but lying and dishonesty feels wrong. That is why this story has legs. I'm not saying they broke the law (they didn't) but....it stinks.