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Ruling by Justice Dept. opens a door on online gambling

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Posted: December 26, 2011, 8:59 am - IP Logged

If States want to fix their budgets.... they should STOP spending money they don't have. Government is always looking for a way to find more revenue because they can't stop borrowing for things that they do not have any business being involved with. Instead of finding more ways for revenue, they should find more ways to be less intrusive in the lives of the people instead of viewing us as a resource that can be tapped at will for their failure.

These States and their budget woes make my blood boil. It demonstrates the waste of what government has become. I'm NOT advocating abolishing government, I'm advocating a return to sane, sound, smaller, less powerful, less intrusive, less violative and last but not least, a government who has the up most respect for OUR INALIENABLE RIGHTS... Rights that are not even mentioned, let alone defended, but never the less, rights that are supposed to be NON violative!

I don't know about most of you on this board. But as time goes on, I feel less and less free. Someone from the government is always there asking for more and more of us, financially! When the role of government is to preserve Liberty, not to be one of the biggest violators of it, they sure are doing an awesome job at destroying our Liberty all in the name of security! Government produces nothing yet soaks up resources of such a behemoth quantity! Money that was taken by force all in the name of providing what? Good government! Far far far from it!

As Benjamin Franklin stated:

"Anyone who would give up any Liberty for any temporary security, deserves neither Liberty nor security and will ultimately loose both!"

I happen to agree with that!

If Liberty is the purpose of govermnet, i'd say it has failed at it's purpose. And I blame us the people for that failure. 

Daniel Webster, the son of Noah Webster stated on June 1, 1837 stated the following:


“I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe . . . Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing. Make them intelligent, and they will be vigilant; give them the means of detecting the wrong, and they will apply the remedy.” 

So, in closing, anyone who thinks government needs more money to "solve" a budget crisis needs to have their head examined! Government is the largest abuser of Financial Liberty out there. There's a fine for everything now a days! Government needs to stop doing more and start doing less. Our lives, Our Liberty and our Financial well being depends on government doing less! And like I said, if Liberty is the end game, the government is doing an extremely poor job, and we only have ourselves to blame for the incompetence of those "officials" who "claim" to represent us. They more so represent tyranny than Liberty, that's a no brainer. And as James Madison has pointed out, "Knowledge will forever govern ignorance: And a people who mean to be their own Governors, must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."

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    Posted: December 26, 2011, 9:14 am - IP Logged

    It's a PLUS in certain ways like:

    if you're snowed

    if you're out in nowheresville  

    if you're not going to meet the cutoff

    being able to buy online is definately a PLUS Cheers

    "You have to be in it to win it!"

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      Posted: December 26, 2011, 10:03 am - IP Logged

      Hate to be Mr. negative but it is stupid to just legalize your own state only. But from what i read it is possible to play cross boarder but this is going to be up to the states themselves.

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        Posted: December 26, 2011, 10:05 am - IP Logged

        Yeah i agree, I think if they only plan to let you buy at your own state it is a waiste but if they allow all states then I am all for it.

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          Posted: December 26, 2011, 10:07 am - IP Logged

          i dont like this because when people buy tickets at the store they also will buy other things an it helps out the small business owner.  i dont own a business but i think its good for the economy and my community.  sure i can buy lottery tickets online an save money on gas but u have to think of the bigger picture.

          Apparently ftdns is talking about a ruling by the Justice Department http://www.lotterypost.com/news/240464 and it's about online gambling casino and poker type games. It's possible a few state lotteries might group together and form a poker site, but the ruling was on a state lottery selling subscriptions for lotto games.

          If horse racing off track betting is legal in your state than you can already legally bet tracks all over the world online.

          As for the impact of selling any lottery game tickets online to area economics, for years lotteries have provided future play on all their online games. Even though the price of gas has settled around $3.25 a gallon, people are still doing one or two stop shopping so online lottery sales will have little or no affect on area economics.

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            Posted: December 26, 2011, 10:25 am - IP Logged

            They want more taxes!

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              Posted: December 26, 2011, 10:56 am - IP Logged

              Personaly,I don't trust the internet enough to  spend my money online.If others wish to,thats their business,but I'll remain old fashioned and just trot down to the corner store or gas station and buy my lottery tickets.I feel like its a much safer option.

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                Posted: December 26, 2011, 11:55 am - IP Logged

                I am not sure that I want an electronic record of my lottery purchases. I am sure that they would track down every win, no matter how small!

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                  Posted: December 26, 2011, 12:13 pm - IP Logged

                  Im definitely I i can buy tickets from other states. Especially when their jackpot is high.

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                    Posted: December 26, 2011, 1:06 pm - IP Logged

                    i dont like this because when people buy tickets at the store they also will buy other things an it helps out the small business owner.  i dont own a business but i think its good for the economy and my community.  sure i can buy lottery tickets online an save money on gas but u have to think of the bigger picture.

                    This is silly too.  People go to the store to buy those other things..they don't necessarily go to the store to buy lottery tickets.  I am sure if they continue to sell beer, gas, milk, sodas, bread and cigaerettes they won't go out of business.  That is where they make their money ..they only get about .05 for each ticket they sell.

                    If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                    You never know when you will get another hit.

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                      Posted: December 26, 2011, 1:14 pm - IP Logged

                      I don't know what all of the opposition is about.  I am looking at the BIG picture..Billions of US dollars are going outside of our country each year to pay for gambling at offshore betting places.  If the US would open up online betting for its citizens, then maybe we could cut those billions going outside the country by more than half.  They need to find a way to keep our money in our country.

                      If you know your number is going to hit, have patience and then KILL IT!

                      You never know when you will get another hit.

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                        Posted: December 26, 2011, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

                        I don't know what all of the opposition is about.  I am looking at the BIG picture..Billions of US dollars are going outside of our country each year to pay for gambling at offshore betting places.  If the US would open up online betting for its citizens, then maybe we could cut those billions going outside the country by more than half.  They need to find a way to keep our money in our country.

                        The easiest way to keep money on shore is to cut taxes. The Mellon Tax cuts of the 1920's did just that. Most people don't understand the law of diminishing returns as it applies to taxes!

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                          Posted: December 26, 2011, 3:50 pm - IP Logged

                          Good morning everyone....I hope ya'll had a great

                           holiday weekendYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

                          In total agreement with you on this note BobP.....I would like to purchase tickets in any state for any game if I so choose.

                          I agree 100 percent with both of you as well.  I made a statement a while back about this.  If people can bet on horse races from other states, then the same should apply to state lotteries.  I personally would play other jackpot games than what is offered here in Pennsylvania.  New York's Sweet Millions or Win For Life would be some of my picks.  Give the people what they want.

                          For those against this idea just keep in mind that this is just another option to buy tickets.  I play no matter what.

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                            Why won't our government admit we're living in a police state and get it over with already?   We're the most controled "free" country ever, can't even spend our hard earned cash freely. 

                            The states have a vested interest in keeping all gambling within their borders. 

                            We the lottery players have a vested interest in playing the best games where ever they may be, whether they are lowest odds,  two tickets for a dollar games or highest jackpot.

                            The positives with online play is saving gas and more days to play without a trip to the store.

                            OPEN UP ALL THE GAMES TO US ! ! !

                            BobP

                            I Agree!   Protectionism kills competition, the lack of which in turn kills creativity and excellence. 

                            When something is "the only game in town" it usually sucks, big time.


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

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                              Posted: December 26, 2011, 4:34 pm - IP Logged

                              Yawwwwwwnnnnnnn...

                              This is a big yawwnner for me.  As far as I'm concerned, if I cant buy tickets from other states, this is no big deal.

                              If I am in a state that is in the Megamillions pool or a in a state that is in the Powerball pool then I should be able to buy ANY kind of tickets I want from those other multi-state pool members online.