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Here is my problem who criticize people like this woman for still taking food stamps. That measly $200 a month she is getting in assistance, she paid for it in the $250,000 plus in taxes she paid. At that rate she will recoup her money in about 100 years or so. The other guy who started all of this he paid about $1.2 million in taxes so it will be several lifetimes before he gets his money back. 

They are some of the biggest taxpayers in the country, they should be getting thank you letters from people. I bet half the people complaining about them are either living off their tax money they paid or have family members that are through some sort of social program. 

Considering she won a million dollars initially and only got $700,000 before taxes, she was already in my opinion taxed an extra $300,000 right off the bat so her real taxes were closer to $600,000. If you win $500 on a scratch off ticket you get $500 and you don't pay taxes so I don't understand why when you win large amounts it gives them the right to effectively steal back almost half of the money. 

The same politicians showing fake outrage over this are the same ones that pass large tax breaks for corporations and their buddies so they pay virtually no taxes. For example if you own 10 Subway restaurants you get no tax break and pay your full taxes, but if you are an auto plant or something else like that, you pay virtually no taxes. That does not seem fair now, does it?

The problem with Amanda Clayton and the other guy is that they are poor and uneducated and don't know how to fight back and call people out on their hypocrisy. 

In summation, I don't necessarily think they should be taking the assistance, but it is being paid out of their money, not yours or anyone elses.

I Agree! For all  those that keep saying the get goverment out my life ,they are sure happy to make this woman give back the lousy 200 dollar a month benefit from DHS which is hardly enough a month for two kids and herself,that a none issue . Technically she and her kids will never eat that in food that she paid in taxes. Who the hell! do this Rep.Zorn is to say people will have to cross reference a 1,000 dollar will never happen. You cut  your nose off inspite of your face group,can truly say that a person paying all  that tax to the government don't need to get some parts of her money back. How about this she pay back all the food stamps amount she receive and don't pay the taxes to the State and the Feds. No NoCussing Face  If you don't agree with this accessment then you are picking and choosing your "GOVERNMENT OUT MY LIFE BS" Hypocrites.Angry


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    We just had our taxes done monday, still a little raw from that, getting a whole 6 dollars back from the state. If we could just keep more of the money we earned, life would be better, we are not rich, but we aren't getting ahead either,  I am tired of going without the things I want , while watching others get what they want plus me feed them.

    Wow....that sucks!   Puke    So how do you plan on "investing" your $6.00?

     

    You could get 2 Powerball tickets with Powerplay, 6 MM tickets, or shoot for some pick3-4's? Can't earn much in your savings/checking

    account (1% interest at best), that would yield you an annual interest of 6 cents. Eek

     

    Best of luck with tomorrows MM sully!   Lep


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      Posted: March 8, 2012, 2:05 pm - IP Logged

      "she deserves to keep her food stamps. the lottery hit isn't income."

      And this when I thought I just read the dumbest statement.

      Line 21 form 1040, other income, Prizes and awards

      Did you ever stop and think why the lotteries deduct taxes from lottery prize (hint) winnings if wasn't considered income?

      what about the govt. bailing out banks and auto companies for millions. do you care about that or about some worthless nobody getting food stamps cut because they won a minisucule lottery prize which she will squander in no time. you saps that pay taxes and don't get in on the gravy train have only yourselves to blame. at least she is playing the system for all it's worth. more power to her.


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        Did you actually read anything I wrote or did you just want to spout your diatribe and write in the biggest letters possible regardless?

        Once again that money she is collecting is hers. SHE PAID MASSIVE TAXES.

        If you are this upset about a woman that paid $600,000 in taxes getting back about $200 a month, then you should be absolutely livid about people like Mitt Romney who paid little to no taxes on hundreds of millions of dollars. I believe that he was able to transfer something like $100 million to his sons tax free and pay less than half of what we would on another $20 million or so.

        You just completely don't grasp the concept that she paid taxes and taxes far in excess of what she is getting do you. SHE IS THE TAXPAYER.

        And I bet she had paid way more in taxes than you ever have. By the way in my experience the people like yourself who constantly scream about taxpayers this and that are usually the ones that pay little to no taxes.

        I Agree! You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Yes Nod

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          Posted: March 8, 2012, 2:35 pm - IP Logged

          Remember Leroy Fick who won 2 million dollars in the Michigan lottery and was still using foodstamps? He will be on The Lottery Changed my Life on TLC today at 5pm.

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            M, I work in a grocery store, I see the people who are in true need, and I see the fraudsters, this week is welfare week in Michigan, and I will watch them buy everything from chips chips to ice cream then use cash to buy , beer, cigarettes and piles of lottery tickets, it's wrong, it's theft, it's not okay to take someone elses money through entitlements so you can have the stuff you want, while someone else buys the stuff you need through taxation.

            It used to be we would get someone on welfare once in awhile, now it's everyone, today we will be hard pressed to find a customer using their own money for food.

            Charity is my choice, forcing me to support some one through higher taxation is wrong.

            I don't want to be the big bad mean person, but I do see the overwhelming fraud.

            Exuse ! but you need another job, if i do say so.  So you don't go postal one day! It like hearing to a KKK member who's looking at an interacial couple this goes on and on. When will you and your rants about food stamp people stop! Once you take your 357MM to work with you then it will be too late for people who are minding their own business. ( you are one to watch).Crazy Mad

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              Exuse ! but you need another job, if i do say so.  So you don't go postal one day! It like hearing to a KKK member who's looking at an interacial couple this goes on and on. When will you and your rants about food stamp people stop! Once you take your 357MM to work with you then it will be too late for people who are minding their own business. ( you are one to watch).Crazy Mad

              Louise, about 46 million people are part of Obama's Food Stamp Nation and about 57% of them are white. 

              So what's all this nonsense about KKK and inter-racial this and 357 that and all that mess?

              We have a Food Stamp President and it has nothing to do with race.

              So let's work together to stop the hate and spread the love.

              And I don't want you drinking that wine this early now, Miss Louise.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

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                OMG!!!  Can we all igree that everybody pay taxes she just voicing her oppinion thats whats going on in stores everyday I always feel like when u win that much money u should also make some money HELLO!!!

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                  what about the govt. bailing out banks and auto companies for millions. do you care about that or about some worthless nobody getting food stamps cut because they won a minisucule lottery prize which she will squander in no time. you saps that pay taxes and don't get in on the gravy train have only yourselves to blame. at least she is playing the system for all it's worth. more power to her.

                   Did I like the bailout the banks got? Absolutely not! It is called common decency! Did you read the words  that came out of this child's mouth? (It will be an insult to adults to call her an adult). "I have two houses and a car, I need the money, I have bills to pay!" What?! She would have invested the money or rent out one of the houses, heaven knows she cannot live in both of them simulatenously. Entitlements, no entitlements, isn't the issue, it is the morale or lack of in the hearts of so many Americans. It is disgraceful. I have two lovely kids, they did not qualify for financial aid to attend college, apparently, we were making too much. Alas, they got partial scholarships and the rest, was supplemented by private student loans. I wonder, how the private lending institutions, will feel if I stopped paying and told them that unless, the banks return ALL of the bailout money before I pay off my kids' student loans. It is common decency! Just beacuse you can be callous, does not mean, you should. Have some pride, decency and bloody self respect! I wonder how well she will respond if, I do not know, there shall be a mandatory drug test, accommodation inspection and a thorough inspection of her financial state, REVALED to all and sundry, THAT will weed out those who truly need it from those who feel they deserve it, just beacuse!Mad

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                    Exuse ! but you need another job, if i do say so.  So you don't go postal one day! It like hearing to a KKK member who's looking at an interacial couple this goes on and on. When will you and your rants about food stamp people stop! Once you take your 357MM to work with you then it will be too late for people who are minding their own business. ( you are one to watch).Crazy Mad

                     Really? Sully works in a grocery store and I bet, she is not skipping to work everyday but is doing what she can to take care of her family. That, my dear is an epitome of a hardworker who is willing to make a honest living. Not everybody is blessed with a 7 figure job or, a bailout or willing to get any assistance! She is not complaining about the race of this misguided child but, she is complaining about the ACTIONS OF SOME UNDESERVING, welfare recipients! Please, discard using such non-delineating words and accusations, it does not behoove well of a civilized individual.Unhappy

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                      Exuse ! but you need another job, if i do say so.  So you don't go postal one day! It like hearing to a KKK member who's looking at an interacial couple this goes on and on. When will you and your rants about food stamp people stop! Once you take your 357MM to work with you then it will be too late for people who are minding their own business. ( you are one to watch).Crazy Mad

                      Hey Louise....FYI, the is no such critter as a 357MM  No No......the .357  is the size of the diameter of a particular bullet in inches. To convert that to MM it would equal 9.01MM in diameter. There is a 357 S&W Mag(made in the 1930s)  which is the gun was made to shoot that round(.357)  which was derived from the .38 .......  The 9MM is a bullet that is close in size at .355 inches...Hope that helps. Glad to be of service See Ya!

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                        OMG!!!  Can we all igree that everybody pay taxes she just voicing her oppinion thats whats going on in stores everyday I always feel like when u win that much money u should also make some money HELLO!!!

                         She is alraedy ahead. No one stopped her from making money. She made an investment, two houses. Why not rent one out, that would cover the property taxes, at least. I know the Michigan economy is in the toilet. Winning that much, would have entitled her, to get an education, move out of Michigan, she has so many choices. Which did she take?....WELFARE RECIPIENT! Yes, that speaketh well of her intelligence.

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                          "To qualify for food stamps, recipients must have income below a threshold. The state last year put in place asset tests for those on welfare and food stamps."

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                          Many states do have asset tests for recipients. Nothing wrong with that.

                          Poke

                          Maybe they should do away with food stamps and other assistance and use these fema camps as poor houses. Just like they had poor houses prior to the new deal programs and programs that followed.

                          Maybe we can get Pres O to run the $$$$$ numbers on it. Maybe he has it planned for his second term.

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                            I Agree! For all  those that keep saying the get goverment out my life ,they are sure happy to make this woman give back the lousy 200 dollar a month benefit from DHS which is hardly enough a month for two kids and herself,that a none issue . Technically she and her kids will never eat that in food that she paid in taxes. Who the hell! do this Rep.Zorn is to say people will have to cross reference a 1,000 dollar will never happen. You cut  your nose off inspite of your face group,can truly say that a person paying all  that tax to the government don't need to get some parts of her money back. How about this she pay back all the food stamps amount she receive and don't pay the taxes to the State and the Feds. No NoCussing Face  If you don't agree with this accessment then you are picking and choosing your "GOVERNMENT OUT MY LIFE BS" Hypocrites.Angry

                            This woman now has over $200,000 in the bank.  Please explain to me how she still deserves this "lousy $200 a month"?  I work 50+ hours a week and I don't have $2,000 in the bank.  Now she has two houses.  I only have one.  She bought a new car.  Mine is almost 10 years old.  I deserve that money more than she does at this point, but I wouldn't take it.

                            How long have you been on the government dole?  It's obvious by the statements you make because anyone with job and pride doesn't make these kind of non-sensical statements.

                            Amanda Clayton needs to be pushed into the real world where people work 40 or more hours a week and need to keep every penny they earn and so do you.

                            You and Clayton have benefitted from hard working people who pay taxes and yet you still complain?  Unbelievable.

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                              They should make here pay back all the benfits .....