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Mega Millions winner forced to split jackpot with co-workers

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Posted: March 15, 2012, 11:22 am - IP Logged

He could have saved himself a lot of grief by giving the numbers on the group tickets by email or by phone so that everyone in the group would have a copy of the numbers before the draws.   That way, his own tickets were just that.

Considering all his actions, I suspect that the right decision was probably made.

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    He has probally spent his share already.. What a jerk.. cheating his friends... LOSER !!!

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      Can ANYONE here in LP do a search and give us a STATISTIC of how many lottery pools have gone WRONG?Sad Cheers

      I'm curious to know how many lottery pools have won over the years and how many resulted in some sort of lawsuit.Thumbs Down

      Just a sampling. Probably more out there. 10 page just on that word search.

      http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=yhs-avg-chrome&type=yahoo_avg_hs2-tb-web_chrome_us&p=+lottery+pool+lawsuits+filed

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        There's some bad math in this article or I'm just not getting it.   If the guy took the cash option which was $24,000,000 after taxes and now has to split it six ways that would be $4,000,000 per person.  While I understand there may be attorney fees why would they have to pay taxes on the $4,000,000 individual portions as the taxes were already paid on the $24,000,000.    This must be wrong so I'll assume each guy is probably getting about $3,900,000 as it's not going to be over $500,000 for the five to have received reprsentation.   Either way good for them and just another cautionary tale of why you don't get involved in a lotto pool.

        only 5 people not split with their lawyer.

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          Posted: March 15, 2012, 1:30 pm - IP Logged

          Keep it simple, buy your own tickets!

          Your so right "mightwin"...if you want to win just buy your own tickets .. The Mrs. and i would take a ride to R.I. to play powerball in the early 90's .We are from city island in bronx,n.y. ...people would always ask if we could pick you tickets for them ...Its just under three hour ride ..Ididn't want to be mean but i said come along for the ride .All of them said no.OK...Now in 1995 powerball comes to CT...We wouldtake a ride into CT. to around exit 40 or 41 on I95 the Christmas Tree store..Again people would say please pick up tickits for them .I said come for a ride .Ididn't even ask for gas money or anything .people just said no ..I know i got off the track a little but like  "mightwin" said just buy your own tickets...I was in a lotto pool at work and it was all nothing but trouble..It got nuts..We were all from the maintenice department of a big hospital but the head of the pool kept adding people al the time ...He added the guy from the deli across the street from the hospital ..,the crossing guard lady from down the block, two ladys from the check cashing place next door ..So i opt out..Funny thing ..They hit for 5 grand and boy did the poop hit the fan ...Who didnt want to pay taxs ,Who wanted the annual payment...Well looks like i got out just in time.SORRY BUT I HATE LOTTO POOLS

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            Posted: March 15, 2012, 2:16 pm - IP Logged

            Scared My point exactly!


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              Your so right "mightwin"...if you want to win just buy your own tickets .. The Mrs. and i would take a ride to R.I. to play powerball in the early 90's .We are from city island in bronx,n.y. ...people would always ask if we could pick you tickets for them ...Its just under three hour ride ..Ididn't want to be mean but i said come along for the ride .All of them said no.OK...Now in 1995 powerball comes to CT...We wouldtake a ride into CT. to around exit 40 or 41 on I95 the Christmas Tree store..Again people would say please pick up tickits for them .I said come for a ride .Ididn't even ask for gas money or anything .people just said no ..I know i got off the track a little but like  "mightwin" said just buy your own tickets...I was in a lotto pool at work and it was all nothing but trouble..It got nuts..We were all from the maintenice department of a big hospital but the head of the pool kept adding people al the time ...He added the guy from the deli across the street from the hospital ..,the crossing guard lady from down the block, two ladys from the check cashing place next door ..So i opt out..Funny thing ..They hit for 5 grand and boy did the poop hit the fan ...Who didnt want to pay taxs ,Who wanted the annual payment...Well looks like i got out just in time.SORRY BUT I HATE LOTTO POOLS

              All that RUCKUS over 5 grand so you can see why things get so hysterical over a JACKPOT. Heed the warning LP Members

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                Your so right "mightwin"...if you want to win just buy your own tickets .. The Mrs. and i would take a ride to R.I. to play powerball in the early 90's .We are from city island in bronx,n.y. ...people would always ask if we could pick you tickets for them ...Its just under three hour ride ..Ididn't want to be mean but i said come along for the ride .All of them said no.OK...Now in 1995 powerball comes to CT...We wouldtake a ride into CT. to around exit 40 or 41 on I95 the Christmas Tree store..Again people would say please pick up tickits for them .I said come for a ride .Ididn't even ask for gas money or anything .people just said no ..I know i got off the track a little but like  "mightwin" said just buy your own tickets...I was in a lotto pool at work and it was all nothing but trouble..It got nuts..We were all from the maintenice department of a big hospital but the head of the pool kept adding people al the time ...He added the guy from the deli across the street from the hospital ..,the crossing guard lady from down the block, two ladys from the check cashing place next door ..So i opt out..Funny thing ..They hit for 5 grand and boy did the poop hit the fan ...Who didnt want to pay taxs ,Who wanted the annual payment...Well looks like i got out just in time.SORRY BUT I HATE LOTTO POOLS

                Annual payment on 5 grand?? Not 5 million? LOL

                I think once a pool gets near a dozen, 2 dozen max, it's time to break it into 2 smaller groups.

                A JP divided by 40-50 people isn't going to be much fun, plus you know the manager of that pool would spend way too much time on paper pushing ... if they're doing things right.

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                  Your so right "mightwin"...if you want to win just buy your own tickets .. The Mrs. and i would take a ride to R.I. to play powerball in the early 90's .We are from city island in bronx,n.y. ...people would always ask if we could pick you tickets for them ...Its just under three hour ride ..Ididn't want to be mean but i said come along for the ride .All of them said no.OK...Now in 1995 powerball comes to CT...We wouldtake a ride into CT. to around exit 40 or 41 on I95 the Christmas Tree store..Again people would say please pick up tickits for them .I said come for a ride .Ididn't even ask for gas money or anything .people just said no ..I know i got off the track a little but like  "mightwin" said just buy your own tickets...I was in a lotto pool at work and it was all nothing but trouble..It got nuts..We were all from the maintenice department of a big hospital but the head of the pool kept adding people al the time ...He added the guy from the deli across the street from the hospital ..,the crossing guard lady from down the block, two ladys from the check cashing place next door ..So i opt out..Funny thing ..They hit for 5 grand and boy did the poop hit the fan ...Who didnt want to pay taxs ,Who wanted the annual payment...Well looks like i got out just in time.SORRY BUT I HATE LOTTO POOLS

                  I was in a pool of 20 co-workers before I retired and played the Ohio Super Lotto.  We matched 5of6 for $1500 three times and had the same problem about taxes since the player claiming the prize had to pay the taxes.

                  We settled that problem by paying a member's kid attending college and earning too little to pay taxes to cash our winning tickets.  They not only got what we paid them but a refund of the taxes deducted when they cashed our ticket.

                   * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                     
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                    I was in a pool of 20 co-workers before I retired and played the Ohio Super Lotto.  We matched 5of6 for $1500 three times and had the same problem about taxes since the player claiming the prize had to pay the taxes.

                    We settled that problem by paying a member's kid attending college and earning too little to pay taxes to cash our winning tickets.  They not only got what we paid them but a refund of the taxes deducted when they cashed our ticket.

                    Very smart !

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                      Whether it was his ticket or not, the lesson of today is , don't join Lottery Pools, not in today's day and ageEvil LookingNo NoNo NodArgueArgueCryingDupe Alert

                      Here's the useful quote from the article: "The case ... marked the latest cautionary tale involving lottery pools, pacts often based on trust and a handshake.

                      The lesson from this is that contracts should be in writing, and they should be written by somebody who's not an idiot. Despite some hassles along the way there are at least 5 players who wouldn't have "won" if they hadn't been in a pool. I put "won" in quotation marks because there's only one person who really knows if the winning ticket was originally intended for the pool or if it really was  Lopes' personal ticket. Either way, they got the money as a result of playing in a pool.

                      A written contract could have easily spelled out the rules and made it obvious wheter the ticket was personal or for the pool. That might have let Lopes keep it all, and it would almost certainly have  saved them all the legal fees.

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                        A few years back there were on average about 13 to 16 of us in the clinic I worked in at the time that used to pool our money together when PB and MM would get close to $200M. I was usually one of the two people that would go around and collect money from participants, obtaining signatures along with the amount of money that they wanted to bet. Most we ever won was around $17 lol, but it was still a fun project to work on and I am sure as hell glad that we never won the jackpot... because in truth we would have been ill prepared to deal with the win.

                        If we won, what about the player that played the week before, but did not place a bet this week because of illness or vacation? Looking back, I think we should have included them, regardless of missing a bet.

                        Personally I had planned to give everyone in the pool $1 Million each if my personal set of numbers won, but how would I have felt if someone else from the pool had won with their own set of numbers and not offered to share with the others? Not happy, but at the same time it is well within their right to do with their money as they please.

                        In the past, I would have done things far differently and established a clear set of rules that every participant would agree on and sign before entering the pool, I would have even gone as far to get the document stamped by a Public Notary. Knowing what I know now, I probably will never enter into another lottery pool, seems like too much of a headache if your group wins. For now I just play my own sets of numbers and I don't promise anyone anything if I win.

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                          I Agree!

                          I bought my own Mega Millions ticket last nite. $3 on quick picks ..................... Grey Violet 2011 Bentley Continental Supersorts - Pittsburgh PA - SCBCU7ZA8BC066953 (24) Grey Violet is goooooooooooood!

                          I just have to share it with my non-estranged wife!  Thud

                          They used to call that purple.


                                                                       
                                               
                                                                   

                           

                           

                           

                           

                                                                                                                             

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                            Whether it was his ticket or not, the lesson of today is , don't join Lottery Pools, not in today's day and ageEvil LookingNo NoNo NodArgueArgueCryingDupe Alert

                            Exactamundo!Thumbs Up Pools are a hassle and compared to individuals, they rarely win.

                            Another problem is you're usually in the pool with a bunch of tightwad skinflints and miserly cheapskates who pinch pennies so hard they have Lincoln spinning in his grave in agony. That's the kind of people pools attract.

                            And you know what happens when one of those tightwads misses a drawing and the pool wins - it's sleazy lawyer time.

                            Avoid pools just like you'd avoid the cheapskates that like them.


                                                                         
                                                 
                                                                     

                             

                             

                             

                             

                                                                                                                               

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                              Exactamundo!Thumbs Up Pools are a hassle and compared to individuals, they rarely win.

                              Another problem is you're usually in the pool with a bunch of tightwad skinflints and miserly cheapskates who pinch pennies so hard they have Lincoln spinning in his grave in agony. That's the kind of people pools attract.

                              And you know what happens when one of those tightwads misses a drawing and the pool wins - it's sleazy lawyer time.

                              Avoid pools just like you'd avoid the cheapskates that like them.

                              I Agree! Good advise,rdgrnr.I couldn't have said it any better,myself.

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