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Arkansas woman loses bid for $1M lottery ticket picked from trash

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Posted: May 2, 2012, 11:39 am - IP Logged

LOTTERY SPY CAM IN ACTION I GUESS,homeless and trash divers are not suppose have a Blessed day!
its ok as long as its not a million bucks..! I see it often and have looked in the trash to see hot selling scratch=offs.    I have purchased lottery tickets for years and have yet to see all of these gadgets to verfy me buying anything at a specific time. the time of purchase is on the  machine tickets but on Scratch-off ,the store clerk grabs a ticket and give you one off a roll ,sometime you dont even see the roll and the roll has not even been scaned yet. ARE WE TO ASSUME THAT ALL LOTTERY SALES ARE RECORDED ?? If someone  throws a ticket away for a smaller amount nothing is said; Do you only check large winners sales and just how do the lottery always have a recording of big win sales.???? I am just saying;;; Florida first scratch off winner found his ticket on the street in front of his hardware store and admitted to not buying a ticket , but he claimed 5000.
   STILL LOOKING FOR THAT MACHINE WITH THE CAMERA SO AT LEAST I KNOW WHERE THE WINNING TICKET WILL BE SOLD...just saying

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    If Ms. Duncan's claim is true, that she scanned the ticket and the scanner mistakenly said it was a "non winner"  she should sue The Lottery Commission as her loss was due to their defective equipment. Their defense would be that Ms Duncan never scanned the ticket as they must keep records of tickets that have been scanned.(computers never throw away information. If that is true (she never scanned it) then Duncan loses and Jones wins. If it is true (she scanned it and scanner was defective) Duncan wins against Lotto Commission not against  Jones. Jones keeps the money. Everybody (except the Lottery Commission) walks away a winner. Lottery Commission has lots of money anyway so who cares about them. (They would probably sue the scanner manufacturer anyway.) This whole situation stinks.

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      Posted: May 2, 2012, 1:36 pm - IP Logged

      the only real winners here are the lawyers

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        Posted: May 2, 2012, 2:13 pm - IP Logged

        the only real winners here are the lawyers

        I Agree!

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          Posted: May 2, 2012, 2:43 pm - IP Logged

          @ time treat

           

           

           

          Lol here come the spell check police, There were a few other miss spellings in that post and thet's the only one you point out? You're getting soft.

          Scratchies for the win!

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            This case was analyzed by Judge Napolitano on Fox News this morning.

            He said once she threw it in the garbage can it wasn't her ticket anymore.

            He said the judge made a bad call and it'll most likely be overturned on appeal.


                                                         
                                 
                                                     

             

             

             

             

                                                                                                               

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              Posted: May 2, 2012, 3:48 pm - IP Logged

              the only real winners here are the lawyers

              I Agree! The case of the women claiming to have actually brought the ticket isn't so strong that another customer buying tickets near the same time couldn't have made an equally strong case.  Had that happened, the woman who found the ticket would have had the stronger case of the three and the judge could not have made the bias decision he did.

               * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                 
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                Posted: May 2, 2012, 4:55 pm - IP Logged

                The whole thing is  SICK!

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                  Naw, I have to disagree with EVERYBODY HERE. Why? Possession is 90% of the law...and in this case, just because someone threw away a winning ticket due to not checking it thoroughly, the person who found it and checked shouldn't be stripped of the winnings!!!!! This is total and complete BULLSH*T!!!! I can promise you that if it involved a prize of $50 on a scratch-off, there would be absolutely no issues!!!! However, because this woman wasn't thorough enough to make sure her ticket wasn't a winner, the judge now wants to penalize THE SMART PERSON THAT ACTUALLY GOES AROUND AND CHECKS DISCARDED TICKETS TO VALIDATE WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE LEGIT WINNERS.

                  Hell, the ticket wasn't even signed!!! So, this means that if I throw away a $1000 scratch-off, and, someone else finds and claims it, I can file an appeal and get it back!!!! How corrupt is this? The bearer of the ticket is suppose to be the winner providing it wasn't stolen etc. Sorry, I totally disagree with this whole scenario...and the judge is wrong for ruling in this manner. It's the person's fault who threw away a winning ticket...not the discoverer's.

                  Amazing......


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                  "Naw, I have to disagree with EVERYBODY HERE."

                  Who's the EVERYBODY HERE you're disagreeing with?

                  Everybody who posted before you (including me) had the same opinion you do.


                                                               
                                       
                                                           

                   

                   

                   

                   

                                                                                                                     

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                    Posted: May 2, 2012, 5:54 pm - IP Logged

                    This case was analyzed by Judge Napolitano on Fox News this morning.

                    He said once she threw it in the garbage can it wasn't her ticket anymore.

                    He said the judge made a bad call and it'll most likely be overturned on appeal.

                    The part that doesn't make sense, when Duncan had her ticket scanned it said "Sorry not a winner", but when Jones had the ticket scanned, the it was a winner and the lottery investigated the circumstances. The reason Jones going through the trash was because many other players were throwing away their tickets. If the judge believes Jones shouldn't get the money, he still shouldn't have awarded Duncan the prize because Jones' ticket may have been bought by another player.

                      RJOh's avatar - chipmunk
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                      The part that doesn't make sense, when Duncan had her ticket scanned it said "Sorry not a winner", but when Jones had the ticket scanned, the it was a winner and the lottery investigated the circumstances. The reason Jones going through the trash was because many other players were throwing away their tickets. If the judge believes Jones shouldn't get the money, he still shouldn't have awarded Duncan the prize because Jones' ticket may have been bought by another player.

                      I Agree!  All Duncan did was convince the judge she brought some lottery tickets at that store near the time the winning tickets was sold which probably other customers could have done too.  Had Jones not revealed she found the ticket in the trash or the ticket not been found, Duncan wouldn't have had a case to take to court.

                      Players lose winning tickets all the time and simply convincing a judge they were buying tickets at the store around the time a winning ticket was sold there isn't usually enough to be awarded  the winnings.

                       * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
                         
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                        Posted: May 2, 2012, 6:41 pm - IP Logged

                        "Naw, I have to disagree with EVERYBODY HERE."

                        Who's the EVERYBODY HERE you're disagreeing with?

                        Everybody who posted before you (including me) had the same opinion you do.

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                          I remember this story from the 20/20 Special: Lotto Frenzy. I am just happy the greedy store manager did not get a dime. I hope people learn to keep their mouth closed. The winner of the ticket is the person who has the ticket, regardless of who bought it.

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                            Posted: May 2, 2012, 6:42 pm - IP Logged

                            This case was analyzed by Judge Napolitano on Fox News this morning.

                            He said once she threw it in the garbage can it wasn't her ticket anymore.

                            He said the judge made a bad call and it'll most likely be overturned on appeal.

                            Thanks for the info ridge...Thumbs Up

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                              Posted: May 2, 2012, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

                              Does that mean she will get a different Judge the next time around?

                              Yes she will get a different Judge.

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