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rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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max, I'm glad you got the point here and there's absolutely no harm in your previous response. However, this whole deal revolves around getting lucky with finding valuable discarded tickets in "not so dirty" disposal cans. I was merely describing how this could possibly be very adventurous, and, financially prospering for a certain type of individual that enjoys all things lottery. No, it's not the cleanest thing for anyone to be doing but, it wasn't about the clean factor. It was about money being found that was thrown away by careless and uninformed individuals. Am I right so far?

Then, the whole thing was turned into a Pride and Prejudice re-take of sorts...about what a man and/or his family shouldn't be doing. It was never about survival or putting food on the table by doing such things. My lunch via scratch ticket of $5 was taken completely out of context as I was using it only as an example of how I put such a find to good use and fed myself. For this matter, it could've been $5 worth of gas! That was it...nothing more nothing less. Where the hell does pride fit in this? Should I have been too proud to have lunch on a ticket that I found inside a can full of other papers and scratch tickets?

How off topic, immature, and disrespectful is dragging a person's family or pride into a discussion like this? In the end though, big game hunters go out and look for big game in various places...this is what they enjoy. Lottery players go out and look for tickets in various places...this is what they enjoy. The hunter finds a big elk and the lottery player finds a $1 million dollar ticket!!! Is this not a wash? It was a very, very simple discussion.

As I last said, we don't live in a bad world...we live in a good world with lots of confused individuals. For the record, I don't see you as confused. Here's to healthy living and happy lotto, max!!!Cheers

 

L.L.

Is this the post you said I avoided, the one where you're whining to Max about me, Lucky Loser? 

Wait a minute, I'm tired of typing that long-ass name. Is it okay if I just call you Loser to save time? Thanks ever so much.

 

I don't see the point but if you insist...

 

"...this whole deal revolves around getting lucky with finding valuable discarded tickets in "not so dirty" disposal cans."

Who said anything about "not so dirty disposal cans"? I never said "not so dirty". I used terms more akin to "filthy" and "disgusting" if I recall. Why are you changing the terminology originally used? And how did garbage can become "disposal can"? What is a "disposal can" anyway? Does that signify clean garbage or something? Has the tobacco spit in there been Pasteurized or what? Has the hacked-up phlegm been filtered? Never heard of it. Please explain the sudden shift in terminology.

 

 "I was merely describing how this could possibly be very adventurous..."

Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh... I think we covered this one already, Loser. My idea of adventure and yours are worlds apart. I like to hunt big game and fish in the mountains and you like to root around in other people's waste. I don't think I have to expound or expand on that.

 

"...it's not the cleanest thing for anyone to be doing but, it wasn't about the clean factor."

Uh, yes, it most certainly was about the "clean factor" along with pride, dignity and self-respect as a man. Remember when I mentioned dirty diapers and spit and phlegm and condoms and who knows what else? The "clean factor" was central. It was key.

 

"Am I right so far?"

Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh...

No.

 

"Where the hell does pride fit in this?"

In your core being.

But don't bother looking.

You don't have any.

 

"Should I have been too proud to have lunch on a ticket that I found inside a can...?"

That's totally up to you.

After you've already humiliated yourself by digging through somebody's garbage, I guess it really doesn't matter. 

I would say the most important thing at that point is washing your hands real good before digging into that Happy Meal.

 

"How off topic, immature, and disrespectful is dragging a person's family or pride into a discussion like this?"

In your heart, you're thankful I illustrated the effect this practice could have on your family. The same way you recoil on hearing a member of your family was rooting around in someone's garbage in a public place is the same way your family would be humiliated on hearing you were doing the same thing. You should thank me for that because if nothing else deters you from that disgusting practice, that should. And you know it.

 

"Lottery players go out and look for tickets in various places..."

No they don't. They get them from lottery agents. 

Don't confuse lottery players with gutter snipes and garbage pickers.

They're two completely different species with completely different core values.

 

"...we live in a good world with lots of confused individuals."

Heh, heh, that's for sure!

Some people are so confused they think it's perfectly normal to wallow and cavort in other people's waste.

 

Welp, I hope that satisfies your need for me to address this post, Loser.

I don't know why it was necessary cuz I thought I covered all this ground previously.

But I'm always willing to clarify if necessary.

Let me know if you think I'm avoiding any other posts that you addressed to someone else too and I'll respond.

Good luck!


                                             
                     
                                         

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                   

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    Well, for a $1 million hell yea I'd sift through a garbage can.  Right now, I'd probably do it for $1000 to be honest.  I usually pick up scratchers and tickets off the ground (people around here don't seem to use the trash can as much I guess).

    Pride and dignity don't pay the bills, or put food on the table.  IMO, it takes a real man/woman to do whatever it takes to make sure their family is taken care of.  Whether that be picking up trash, or cleaning toilets or any other job that people seem to think they are too good for and look down their nose upon.   If sifting through a garbage can for a few minutes a day netted me a $1 million then you all can keep your pride and dignity.  The $1 million will suit me just fine. 

    Back to the original topic.  I was surprised to read that the judge ruled that the lady who threw away the ticket deserved the money.  I think the lottery made it clear that lottery tickets are bearer instruments.  This should have been open and shut.  Not even the store clerks who sued because it was "their trash can" had a right to it IMO.  Would they have sued if the lady who threw the ticket away came back later and picked it up?  Doubtful.  Anyway, I'm glad to see the judge reverse his decision.  The lady who found the ticket deserves the money.

      Lucky Loser's avatar - bucks
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      Is this the post you said I avoided, the one where you're whining to Max about me, Lucky Loser? 

      Wait a minute, I'm tired of typing that long-ass name. Is it okay if I just call you Loser to save time? Thanks ever so much.

       

      I don't see the point but if you insist...

       

      "...this whole deal revolves around getting lucky with finding valuable discarded tickets in "not so dirty" disposal cans."

      Who said anything about "not so dirty disposal cans"? I never said "not so dirty". I used terms more akin to "filthy" and "disgusting" if I recall. Why are you changing the terminology originally used? And how did garbage can become "disposal can"? What is a "disposal can" anyway? Does that signify clean garbage or something? Has the tobacco spit in there been Pasteurized or what? Has the hacked-up phlegm been filtered? Never heard of it. Please explain the sudden shift in terminology.

       

       "I was merely describing how this could possibly be very adventurous..."

      Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh... I think we covered this one already, Loser. My idea of adventure and yours are worlds apart. I like to hunt big game and fish in the mountains and you like to root around in other people's waste. I don't think I have to expound or expand on that.

       

      "...it's not the cleanest thing for anyone to be doing but, it wasn't about the clean factor."

      Uh, yes, it most certainly was about the "clean factor" along with pride, dignity and self-respect as a man. Remember when I mentioned dirty diapers and spit and phlegm and condoms and who knows what else? The "clean factor" was central. It was key.

       

      "Am I right so far?"

      Heh, heh, heh, heh, heh...

      No.

       

      "Where the hell does pride fit in this?"

      In your core being.

      But don't bother looking.

      You don't have any.

       

      "Should I have been too proud to have lunch on a ticket that I found inside a can...?"

      That's totally up to you.

      After you've already humiliated yourself by digging through somebody's garbage, I guess it really doesn't matter. 

      I would say the most important thing at that point is washing your hands real good before digging into that Happy Meal.

       

      "How off topic, immature, and disrespectful is dragging a person's family or pride into a discussion like this?"

      In your heart, you're thankful I illustrated the effect this practice could have on your family. The same way you recoil on hearing a member of your family was rooting around in someone's garbage in a public place is the same way your family would be humiliated on hearing you were doing the same thing. You should thank me for that because if nothing else deters you from that disgusting practice, that should. And you know it.

       

      "Lottery players go out and look for tickets in various places..."

      No they don't. They get them from lottery agents. 

      Don't confuse lottery players with gutter snipes and garbage pickers.

      They're two completely different species with completely different core values.

       

      "...we live in a good world with lots of confused individuals."

      Heh, heh, that's for sure!

      Some people are so confused they think it's perfectly normal to wallow and cavort in other people's waste.

       

      Welp, I hope that satisfies your need for me to address this post, Loser.

      I don't know why it was necessary cuz I thought I covered all this ground previously.

      But I'm always willing to clarify if necessary.

      Let me know if you think I'm avoiding any other posts that you addressed to someone else too and I'll respond.

      Good luck!

      Thanks for your input and clarifying yourself, ridge. Take it easy, okay.


      L.L.

        rdgrnr's avatar - walt
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        Okay, let's talk ridge...we should. Yeah, I am from Texas and I was born and raised here. This post was merely being sarchastic and havin' a little fun with the buckshots, elk, hills, etc, etc. I'd like to know one thing...just how does a Texan "sound" on a forum? I mean, you're reading my dialogues which are pretty straight forward with simple words...easy to understand. Does a Texan "write" a certain way on forums or what? Really, tell me what characteristics a true Texan possesses on a forum. How does one, in fact, "act" on a forum? 

        So, I'm not a real Texan if I decide to drop dialogues with someone because I see it as pointless and converse with others about my own dialogues? Only Texans do this? Hmmm. Well, a real man wouldn't drag a person's pride and/or their family into such a simple and straight forward conversation about getting lucky with lotto tickets found in a trash can...and a lady that's already done it.

        Also, I made two different posts to two different people and you chose the one about the buckshots. Why? Was the other one too hard to address because it made sense and was true? I mean, there was a lot more there for you to pick through and address. You seem to pick and choose your battles...the easier one's I might add. I could say lots of nasty things about you if I really wanted to but, it's not my style and it's not right. While I've addressed you as ridge all this time everywhere, you've called me boy and hinted at me being feminine or something...I don't know.

        So, what kind of man does those things, ridge? You tell me to act like a man...very interesting.

         

        L.L.

        Whoops, forgot about this one!

        Guess I better address it so you don't say I "pick and choose my battles", the "easier ones" as you say.

        Alrighty then...

         

        "Yeah, I am from Texas and I was born and raised here."

        Highly doubtful unless it was in some gated enclave in the suburbs of Dallas or Austin.

        You're just too prissy to be a real Texan. You know what I'm talkin' about.

         

        "This post was merely being sarchastic and havin' a little fun with the buckshots, elk, hills, etc, etc."

        Buckshots again, hmmm... You still don't even know what I'm talkin' about, do ya?

        Texan... yeah right.

        Btw, there's no "h" in sarcastic. Just sayin...

         

        "...just how does a Texan "sound" on a forum?"

        Welp, if the Texan is a male he sounds like a man.

         

        "Does a Texan "write" a certain way on forums or what?"

        Yep. 

        Like a man.

         

        "...tell me what characteristics a true Texan possesses on a forum."

        Basically, a Texan would be diametrically opposed to every characteristic you exhibit.

        In short, he'd have pride and dignity and self-respect.

        He'd act like a man.

         

        "So, I'm not a real Texan if I decide to drop dialogues with someone because I see it as pointless and converse with others about my own dialogues?

        No, not at all, but don't then start whining about me avoiding your posts and "picking and choosing the easier ones" to respond to.

         

        "Well, a real man wouldn't drag a person's pride and/or their family into such a simple and straight forward conversation..."

        If you don't have any pride, it really doesn't matter then, does it? 

         

        "Also, I made two different posts to two different people and you chose the one about the buckshots. Why? Was the other one too hard to address because it made sense and was true? I mean, there was a lot more there for you to pick through and address. You seem to pick and choose your battles...the easier one's I might add."

        I think I've addressed all of them now with this post.

        Let me know if I missed any or you feel you need more critique.

         

        "I could say lots of nasty things about you..."

        Go ahead on, it don't make me no nevermind. 

         

        "you've called me boy and hinted at me being feminine or something..."

        Your "buckshots" comment makes you sound like a boy who's never been around guns in his life. Unless you're a "Dallas Dandy" or an "Austin Aristocrat" it's very doubtful you're a Texan. Guns are critical in Texas History and every Texan I know, knows guns. And I don't recall saying you were feminine. Are you? 

         

        "So, what kind of man does those things, ridge?"

        One who calls 'em like he sees 'em.

         

        Good luck!


                                                     
                             
                                                 

         

         

         

         

                                                                                                           

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          Well, for a $1 million hell yea I'd sift through a garbage can.  Right now, I'd probably do it for $1000 to be honest.  I usually pick up scratchers and tickets off the ground (people around here don't seem to use the trash can as much I guess).

          Pride and dignity don't pay the bills, or put food on the table.  IMO, it takes a real man/woman to do whatever it takes to make sure their family is taken care of.  Whether that be picking up trash, or cleaning toilets or any other job that people seem to think they are too good for and look down their nose upon.   If sifting through a garbage can for a few minutes a day netted me a $1 million then you all can keep your pride and dignity.  The $1 million will suit me just fine. 

          Back to the original topic.  I was surprised to read that the judge ruled that the lady who threw away the ticket deserved the money.  I think the lottery made it clear that lottery tickets are bearer instruments.  This should have been open and shut.  Not even the store clerks who sued because it was "their trash can" had a right to it IMO.  Would they have sued if the lady who threw the ticket away came back later and picked it up?  Doubtful.  Anyway, I'm glad to see the judge reverse his decision.  The lady who found the ticket deserves the money.

          Now, we're gettin' somewhere! If I'm accurately understanding your post, you support that this is mostly geared up due to the amount of money involved. Better yet, your scenario of the original ticket bearer returning and retrieving the ticket and then claiming it as their own is a good point! Hey, according to all the latest rage, it became the store's property after it was discarded. But, the store clerk didn't know a winning ticket was in their trash can and it would've went completely unknown had it not been for Mrs. Jone's discovery!!! Ding, ding...we have a winner ladies and gentlemen!!!!!! So, in all this, who in the hell is the ticket bearer? Mrs. Duncan?No Nod Mrs. Jones?Yes Nod The TRASH CAN?What? The buildingWhat?

          The clerk came in on purely the a** end of the whole deal, right? Now, he just wants his cut for the store...again pointing to this being all about the amount of money and TAXES. It's all political, PJ32. As you stated, this should've really been an open and shut case according to the BEARER INSTRUMENT clause on back of the ticket. Nawwww, that's too much like right and honest with this much dough involved!!! 

          Very good breakdown, man!Thumbs Up


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            So, how appropriate would this headline be for the topic in question:

            "LADY FINDS TREASURE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S TRASH"

            Kinda follows suite with that old cliche, right? Just a thought...


            L.L.

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              http://myarkansaslottery.com/games/1000000-diamond-dazzler-game-no-087

              There is a row of "winning numbers" and a row of "your numbers" and two of the numbers matched and the prize under the number was "$1 million". The ticket showed it was a winner regardless what the clerk said and Duncan was only 35 miles from the claims center in Little Rock. Duncan probably bought and scanned a losing ticket, but I don't believed she discarded the winning ticket unless she is abnormally stupid.

              I think that's the most plausible theory.

              The person who threw that ticket in the garbage probably isn't even involved in the controversy now.


                                                           
                                   
                                                       

               

               

               

               

                                                                                                                 

              "The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing"

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                As a side note regarding the scanner, I think they should go back to the same store with the winning ticket and scan it again. If it scanned as a no winner the first time, it should still do it now as the ticket bar code should still be consistent. For that matter, try scanning it on several.


                L.L.

                I know it's too late to consider it but what if all this time, everyone was arguing over a ticket that was a misprint?  It would explain why the scanner didn't read it a winner if done honestly.

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                  Well, for a $1 million hell yea I'd sift through a garbage can.  Right now, I'd probably do it for $1000 to be honest.  I usually pick up scratchers and tickets off the ground (people around here don't seem to use the trash can as much I guess).

                  Pride and dignity don't pay the bills, or put food on the table.  IMO, it takes a real man/woman to do whatever it takes to make sure their family is taken care of.  Whether that be picking up trash, or cleaning toilets or any other job that people seem to think they are too good for and look down their nose upon.   If sifting through a garbage can for a few minutes a day netted me a $1 million then you all can keep your pride and dignity.  The $1 million will suit me just fine. 

                  Back to the original topic.  I was surprised to read that the judge ruled that the lady who threw away the ticket deserved the money.  I think the lottery made it clear that lottery tickets are bearer instruments.  This should have been open and shut.  Not even the store clerks who sued because it was "their trash can" had a right to it IMO.  Would they have sued if the lady who threw the ticket away came back later and picked it up?  Doubtful.  Anyway, I'm glad to see the judge reverse his decision.  The lady who found the ticket deserves the money.

                  "The store's manager and owner sued Jones, claiming she illegally took the ticket from the bin"

                  "Well, for a $1 million hell yea I'd sift through a garbage can."

                  Big difference between sifting through a waste basket or garbage can and a dumpster. And with thousands of lottery retailers in each state, good luck guessing in which dumpster you find a discarded $1 million, $1000, or even a Free ticket.

                  "Pride and dignity don't pay the bills, or put food on the table."

                  While you're guessing in which store the clerks don't sift through the discarded tickets before putting them into the dumpster, no bills will be paid or any food will be put on the table. The store where Jones found that ticket now has a "no trespassing" sign on their dumpster.

                  "If sifting through a garbage can for a few minutes a day netted me a $1 million then you all can keep your pride and dignity."

                  It might take you more than a few minutes just to find which bag has the discarded tickets assuming you can stand the stench. If that bag is under the rest and the dumpster is full, where will you put the other garbage?

                  If you do find any winning tickets, take a long long bath and burn your clothes before cashing them.

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                    Hey, good for you man...and congrats on your findings!!Cheers You should be very excited!!! I'm a big believer in SEEK AND YE SHALL FIND and challeneged myself to salvage a few discarded tickets. So far, I've only found $5 but, as you've mentioned, all it costed me was TIME and EFFORT...100% profit. Hell, that ticket I cashed in bought me lunch that same day!!Thumbs Up I had lunch on someone else's carelessness...not my fault. See, it's the simple things in life that reward us most of the time but, most people are too proud to do such things.

                    That's why they make gloves, soap, and sanitizer!! mcginnis, there's lots of money out there just waiting to be found and your diligence will, in fact, pay off BIG one day. Even if it's not $1million, a $1000 find will pay some bills, feed you, and allow you to enjoy one hell of a HAPPY HOUR the next day!!

                    As a side note, I'm expecting to be contacted any minute now by the store where I found the $5 ticket. They'll want their cut of the $5 because I found it in their can!!Green laughLOLNo NoNo Nod mcginnis, the clerk even saw me bring the ticket in from my car after I finished checkin' 'em...and proceeded to cash it for me. Know what he said? FINDERS KEEPERS!!!!Patriot

                    We don't live in a bad world, we live in a good world with a bunch of confused people.


                    L.L.

                    It's hard to believe that this post and the one mcginnis56 made prior to mine regarding his $60 findings caused this topic to take such a bad turn. This was never the intent, and, it was really taken too seriously and blown way out of proportion. We all know that trash cans, dumpsters, bins, etc. are waste points and are dirty. I don't remember any of us claiming to go dumpster diving, house to house, or anything like that for tickets.

                    We were focusing on the typical cans located inside or just outside of the stores where the highest content of discarded tickets are likely to be. This is where I concentrated, personally, and never said that even those points were so much better. It was about the idea of finding a winning ticket like Mrs. Jones did and the method by which she did it...I thought it might be interesting to entertain such a thing. Bad idea and I apologize for seemingly imposing on other people's values, levels of pride, dignity, and what ever else.

                    As a side note, one of my very good friend's son works part time at a convenience store/gas station and he has to change the trash bags out there next to the pumps before he leaves. Well, I just got a call from him about his son and how he just found a $20 ticket in the midst of other tickets in one bag. People do scratch tickets and toss 'em while they're pumping fuel, you know. He checks them all the time, "while he's at it", because he's heard about this sort of thing before...and he finally got lucky on one after all this time. Oh, and the manager on duty seemed to have had no problem cashing it in for him. Nice!!!Thumbs Up


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                      Sue the scanner...it said, "not a winner"..unless we have another case of a crooked clerk.

                      Three things, briefly:

                      There is no evidence the scanner didn't work. Just her word.

                      There is no evidence that she even used the scanner. Just her word.

                      There is no evidence that she ever had or bought that particular ticket. They can not connect her with it by video or any other means. All they have is her word.

                       

                      Now, maybe she did buy one of those tickets that day and maybe she did scan it and maybe it did say it wasn't a winner - but that doesn't mean it was that same ticket.


                                                                   
                                           
                                                               

                       

                       

                       

                       

                                                                                                                         

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                        "Jones did find something valuable doing something the majority of us wouldn't consider doing and hadn't she bragged about it, she could be spending the money as we speak."

                        Except that she didn't brag about it. It seems that she simply claimed the prize. Here's what it says in the original article from January:
                        "After the check was issued, the lottery commission began the process of confirming all winning tickets and in the course of the investigation, surveillance footage showed Jones grabbing a handful of discarded tickets from the trash bin."

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                          Posted: May 28, 2012, 9:40 am - IP Logged

                          "Jones did find something valuable doing something the majority of us wouldn't consider doing and hadn't she bragged about it, she could be spending the money as we speak."

                          Except that she didn't brag about it. It seems that she simply claimed the prize. Here's what it says in the original article from January:
                          "After the check was issued, the lottery commission began the process of confirming all winning tickets and in the course of the investigation, surveillance footage showed Jones grabbing a handful of discarded tickets from the trash bin."

                          "After the check was issued" is too late to prove any of the tickets Jones found in the trash bin was the one she cashed unless Jones said it was.

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                            "After the check was issued" is too late to prove any of the tickets Jones found in the trash bin was the one she cashed unless Jones said it was.

                            Stack, it may have had something to do with the ticket's batch number. When the rolls of tickets are dispersed they're more or less registered to the store and can be tracked in terms of numerical sequence. However, in supporting your statement, how can they know that the ticket found was the same one tossed by Mrs.Duncan? It could've been anyone for, that matter, who threw away the ticket in question. All they really know is that the ticket was registered to that location.

                            Maybe they're gonna check for Mrs. Duncan's fingerprints on the ticketsWhat? All I know is that the two magic words still haven't risen to the occasion in this matter...BEARER INSTRUMENT.


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                              Stack, it may have had something to do with the ticket's batch number. When the rolls of tickets are dispersed they're more or less registered to the store and can be tracked in terms of numerical sequence. However, in supporting your statement, how can they know that the ticket found was the same one tossed by Mrs.Duncan? It could've been anyone for, that matter, who threw away the ticket in question. All they really know is that the ticket was registered to that location.

                              Maybe they're gonna check for Mrs. Duncan's fingerprints on the ticketsWhat? All I know is that the two magic words still haven't risen to the occasion in this matter...BEARER INSTRUMENT.


                              L.L.

                              The lottery issued the check to Jones so by their rules and regulations, she was the winner. The store owner and manager sued Jones claiming the ticket belonged to the store because it was found in their dumpster. The odd part of the judge's ruling was he awarded the money to Duncan who couldn't prove anything other than she bought a lottery ticket the scanner said "was not a winner".