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UPDATE

I just updated the news story to include a video by the Kentucky Lottery explaining the changes, and showing the inside of the studio as they are finishing construction.

The Kentucky Lottery will be monitoring THIS THREAD, and will answer any questions you want to post to them, so now is your chance to ask any questions you have about the new drawings!

so the lottery comm in each state monitors this site?

 

if thats so  thats prob why us" as players dont hitbig or we are always off by "1" number Rant

im going to stop my predictions on what I am playing

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    so the lottery comm in each state monitors this site?

     

    if thats so  thats prob why us" as players dont hitbig or we are always off by "1" number Rant

    im going to stop my predictions on what I am playing

    You would have to believe that the lottery controls the results if you want to believe what you wrote.  If you believe the lottery controls the results (rigs the drawings), then I'd suggest you stop playing.  Why would you play a crooked game?!

    The whole concept of the lottery taking your individual predictions and changing the results because they are worried about YOU winning is preposterous in the extreme.  You are saying that the people running the lottery would risk getting thrown in jail just to have you lose.  It's silly, think about it.

     

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      UPDATE

      I just updated the news story to include a video by the Kentucky Lottery explaining the changes, and showing the inside of the studio as they are finishing construction.

      The Kentucky Lottery will be monitoring THIS THREAD, and will answer any questions you want to post to them, so now is your chance to ask any questions you have about the new drawings!

      Does the Lottery administrators really monitor this site?  If so, I didn't know that this site was this popular.  So much for states respective lottery facebook pages.

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        so the lottery comm in each state monitors this site?

         

        if thats so  thats prob why us" as players dont hitbig or we are always off by "1" number Rant

        im going to stop my predictions on what I am playing

        I would hate to think that this is whats going on but I have to agree what Todd.  When I think of lottery administrators as employees, I think of rules and regulations for any enitiy that exist.  So a lottery administrator as an "employee" rigging the draw, is probably unlikely.  I would hate to be a lottery administrator being caught rigging a draw.  Somebody called PR immediately because you are sure going to need em.


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          You would have to believe that the lottery controls the results if you want to believe what you wrote.  If you believe the lottery controls the results (rigs the drawings), then I'd suggest you stop playing.  Why would you play a crooked game?!

          The whole concept of the lottery taking your individual predictions and changing the results because they are worried about YOU winning is preposterous in the extreme.  You are saying that the people running the lottery would risk getting thrown in jail just to have you lose.  It's silly, think about it.

          That would be why jackpots "rollover" and accumulate til somebody wins.

          Which means money that is designated for prizes always goes to the players.

          In Arizona, even unclaimed prizes are in large part donated to good causes.

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            Hey folks. Chip Polston from the KY Lottery here. First off let me apologize for taking a bit to get a post on here that answered some of your questions. I had a great post written, and in trying to be helpful I committed one of the cardinal sins of the site (posting my email address so people could send me questions) and managed to get my account blocked and lost my post! Sorry Todd!

            As Todd said in his earlier post, I'll be looking here for any questions that I could answer about this new draw show we'll be starting in just a couple of weeks. Although this wasn't a question, I did want to address some of the concerns I read here about lottery staff members "monitoring" this site. When I log on to my computer every morning, Lottery Post is one of the first three websites I check (after our Facebook page and local paper). I do this for two reasons - one is that this site is the best I've found for player-based news concerning happenings in our industry, and the second is that the site also provides some of the most solid player feedback I've found. If I want to get a good idea as to how players feel about something, this is the site to go to. It's important that we don't operate in an ivory tower, but instead have a good solid grounding of how players feel (both positively and negatively) about what we do. I haven't found another site that can match this one for that type of feedback. So that's what I'm looking for - I will admit that I once got lost in some of the prediction threads, and quite honestly it made my head spin so badly that I never went back!

            Now for some of your questions:

            Question for Kentucky Lottery:

            Do you remain committed to the real ball drawings that players prefer for all games as opposed to ever going to computer drawings which players hate?

            I probably shouldn't say this, but Ridge Runner, you're a legend in this building! You cemented that status a year or so ago with a comment you made on this site about my boss Steve Casebeer - you said anyone with "case" and "beer" in their name had to be an alright guy. We still talk about that around here!

            To your question - you're like the Grover Norquist of RNGs, Ridge Runner! As someone posted earlier, we do use random number generators (RNGs) in our 5 Card Cash game as well as for the Kicker component of our KY Cash Ball Game. I think our commitment to balls and machines you asked about is evidenced by the announcement we made yesterday. Shutting down our draw show and going RNG was one of the routes we could have taken. Quite honestly it would've been a lot easier! But we realize and appreciate the importance of players being able to see balls with winning numbers coming out of machines, and by building this studio, we've made the commitment to do that. Does that mean absolutely nothing will change 5 or 10 years down the road? No. But by taking this step - in a time when many other states have shut down their show altogether and gone full RNG - I hope it shows how much we value traditional draws in our product mix.

            And there were these...uh...interesting questions from mcginnin56:

            Which game is most profitable for your players?
             
            The higher the price on our scratch-off tickets, the higher the return - some of the $20 tickets have prize returns in excess of 70%. And sometimes we get SHELLACKED on our draw games - a series of triple digits and other popular numbers for our Pick 3 game in July paid out 93.5% of sales in prizes!

            Which game is most profitable for the Kentucky Lottery Commission?

            Powerball and Mega Millions are the most profitable games - they return about 50 cents on the dollar, and our profits go to college scholarship and grant programs.

            What will the pick 4 numbers be, for your mid-day drawing for September 5?

            Definitely something between 0000 and 9999. Ask me again around 1:45 and I'll have a much better answer :)

            Which question did you like the best?

            Absolutely that last one.

            So there we go. Thanks for the questions and some of the downright nice comments I've read on this thread. I'll be back on here tomorrow AM, so fire away with any other questions or concerns. We appreciate you playing, and hope you enjoy our new show starting on the 16th!

             

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              I would hate to think that this is whats going on but I have to agree what Todd.  When I think of lottery administrators as employees, I think of rules and regulations for any enitiy that exist.  So a lottery administrator as an "employee" rigging the draw, is probably unlikely.  I would hate to be a lottery administrator being caught rigging a draw.  Somebody called PR immediately because you are sure going to need em.

              If you're caught rigging a draw, a call to PR is the last one you'll make - your first call will be to get a lawyer because you'll be going to jail. Here in KY it's a class B felony to tamper with any drawing equipment, and this carries a minimum 10 year sentence and maximum 20 year sentence.


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                If you're caught rigging a draw, a call to PR is the last one you'll make - your first call will be to get a lawyer because you'll be going to jail. Here in KY it's a class B felony to tamper with any drawing equipment, and this carries a minimum 10 year sentence and maximum 20 year sentence.

                Green laugh  The PR department might be good to call after your criminal attorney, to put a positive spin on your your rigging activities.

                         A possible defense: Your honor my client had PTSD, PMS, and emotional delusions, resulting from very heavy lottery losses.   Crazy


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                  Hey folks. Chip Polston from the KY Lottery here. First off let me apologize for taking a bit to get a post on here that answered some of your questions. I had a great post written, and in trying to be helpful I committed one of the cardinal sins of the site (posting my email address so people could send me questions) and managed to get my account blocked and lost my post! Sorry Todd!

                  As Todd said in his earlier post, I'll be looking here for any questions that I could answer about this new draw show we'll be starting in just a couple of weeks. Although this wasn't a question, I did want to address some of the concerns I read here about lottery staff members "monitoring" this site. When I log on to my computer every morning, Lottery Post is one of the first three websites I check (after our Facebook page and local paper). I do this for two reasons - one is that this site is the best I've found for player-based news concerning happenings in our industry, and the second is that the site also provides some of the most solid player feedback I've found. If I want to get a good idea as to how players feel about something, this is the site to go to. It's important that we don't operate in an ivory tower, but instead have a good solid grounding of how players feel (both positively and negatively) about what we do. I haven't found another site that can match this one for that type of feedback. So that's what I'm looking for - I will admit that I once got lost in some of the prediction threads, and quite honestly it made my head spin so badly that I never went back!

                  Now for some of your questions:

                  Question for Kentucky Lottery:

                  Do you remain committed to the real ball drawings that players prefer for all games as opposed to ever going to computer drawings which players hate?

                  I probably shouldn't say this, but Ridge Runner, you're a legend in this building! You cemented that status a year or so ago with a comment you made on this site about my boss Steve Casebeer - you said anyone with "case" and "beer" in their name had to be an alright guy. We still talk about that around here!

                  To your question - you're like the Grover Norquist of RNGs, Ridge Runner! As someone posted earlier, we do use random number generators (RNGs) in our 5 Card Cash game as well as for the Kicker component of our KY Cash Ball Game. I think our commitment to balls and machines you asked about is evidenced by the announcement we made yesterday. Shutting down our draw show and going RNG was one of the routes we could have taken. Quite honestly it would've been a lot easier! But we realize and appreciate the importance of players being able to see balls with winning numbers coming out of machines, and by building this studio, we've made the commitment to do that. Does that mean absolutely nothing will change 5 or 10 years down the road? No. But by taking this step - in a time when many other states have shut down their show altogether and gone full RNG - I hope it shows how much we value traditional draws in our product mix.

                  And there were these...uh...interesting questions from mcginnin56:

                  Which game is most profitable for your players?
                   
                  The higher the price on our scratch-off tickets, the higher the return - some of the $20 tickets have prize returns in excess of 70%. And sometimes we get SHELLACKED on our draw games - a series of triple digits and other popular numbers for our Pick 3 game in July paid out 93.5% of sales in prizes!

                  Which game is most profitable for the Kentucky Lottery Commission?

                  Powerball and Mega Millions are the most profitable games - they return about 50 cents on the dollar, and our profits go to college scholarship and grant programs.

                  What will the pick 4 numbers be, for your mid-day drawing for September 5?

                  Definitely something between 0000 and 9999. Ask me again around 1:45 and I'll have a much better answer :)

                  Which question did you like the best?

                  Absolutely that last one.

                  So there we go. Thanks for the questions and some of the downright nice comments I've read on this thread. I'll be back on here tomorrow AM, so fire away with any other questions or concerns. We appreciate you playing, and hope you enjoy our new show starting on the 16th!

                   

                  The higher the price on our scratch-off tickets, the higher the return - some of the $20 tickets have prize returns in excess of 70%. And sometimes we get SHELLACKED on our draw games - a series of triple digits and other popular numbers for our Pick 3 game in July paid out 93.5% of sales in prizes!
                   
                  Thanks ChipP 2
                  This confirms what LL and some other savvy players have been telling us all alone about great pay-outs.
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                    Hey folks. Chip Polston from the KY Lottery here. First off let me apologize for taking a bit to get a post on here that answered some of your questions. I had a great post written, and in trying to be helpful I committed one of the cardinal sins of the site (posting my email address so people could send me questions) and managed to get my account blocked and lost my post! Sorry Todd!

                    As Todd said in his earlier post, I'll be looking here for any questions that I could answer about this new draw show we'll be starting in just a couple of weeks. Although this wasn't a question, I did want to address some of the concerns I read here about lottery staff members "monitoring" this site. When I log on to my computer every morning, Lottery Post is one of the first three websites I check (after our Facebook page and local paper). I do this for two reasons - one is that this site is the best I've found for player-based news concerning happenings in our industry, and the second is that the site also provides some of the most solid player feedback I've found. If I want to get a good idea as to how players feel about something, this is the site to go to. It's important that we don't operate in an ivory tower, but instead have a good solid grounding of how players feel (both positively and negatively) about what we do. I haven't found another site that can match this one for that type of feedback. So that's what I'm looking for - I will admit that I once got lost in some of the prediction threads, and quite honestly it made my head spin so badly that I never went back!

                    Now for some of your questions:

                    Question for Kentucky Lottery:

                    Do you remain committed to the real ball drawings that players prefer for all games as opposed to ever going to computer drawings which players hate?

                    I probably shouldn't say this, but Ridge Runner, you're a legend in this building! You cemented that status a year or so ago with a comment you made on this site about my boss Steve Casebeer - you said anyone with "case" and "beer" in their name had to be an alright guy. We still talk about that around here!

                    To your question - you're like the Grover Norquist of RNGs, Ridge Runner! As someone posted earlier, we do use random number generators (RNGs) in our 5 Card Cash game as well as for the Kicker component of our KY Cash Ball Game. I think our commitment to balls and machines you asked about is evidenced by the announcement we made yesterday. Shutting down our draw show and going RNG was one of the routes we could have taken. Quite honestly it would've been a lot easier! But we realize and appreciate the importance of players being able to see balls with winning numbers coming out of machines, and by building this studio, we've made the commitment to do that. Does that mean absolutely nothing will change 5 or 10 years down the road? No. But by taking this step - in a time when many other states have shut down their show altogether and gone full RNG - I hope it shows how much we value traditional draws in our product mix.

                    And there were these...uh...interesting questions from mcginnin56:

                    Which game is most profitable for your players?
                     
                    The higher the price on our scratch-off tickets, the higher the return - some of the $20 tickets have prize returns in excess of 70%. And sometimes we get SHELLACKED on our draw games - a series of triple digits and other popular numbers for our Pick 3 game in July paid out 93.5% of sales in prizes!

                    Which game is most profitable for the Kentucky Lottery Commission?

                    Powerball and Mega Millions are the most profitable games - they return about 50 cents on the dollar, and our profits go to college scholarship and grant programs.

                    What will the pick 4 numbers be, for your mid-day drawing for September 5?

                    Definitely something between 0000 and 9999. Ask me again around 1:45 and I'll have a much better answer :)

                    Which question did you like the best?

                    Absolutely that last one.

                    So there we go. Thanks for the questions and some of the downright nice comments I've read on this thread. I'll be back on here tomorrow AM, so fire away with any other questions or concerns. We appreciate you playing, and hope you enjoy our new show starting on the 16th!

                     

                    This is for Todd, and Chip. First I want to respond to the claim that the lottery numbers are realized through RNG"S.  That claim is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here so far. Without getting scientific about it, I will just ask this one question; Why use a computer system to generate numbers anyway? Moreover, using the ball system is, in my opinion, the fairest; and really the only way!  Gambling is a part of my recreational hobbies. I do it not only with the lottery but, also with casino's. Another question is this: If all thing are equal between the lottery agency and the gambler, why then are certain numbers limited to player access? Is it because the lottery do not want to lose its control? Lets find the answers to these few questions. Then we can move on to more intricate ones. Thanks.


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                      This is for Todd, and Chip. First I want to respond to the claim that the lottery numbers are realized through RNG"S.  That claim is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here so far. Without getting scientific about it, I will just ask this one question; Why use a computer system to generate numbers anyway? Moreover, using the ball system is, in my opinion, the fairest; and really the only way!  Gambling is a part of my recreational hobbies. I do it not only with the lottery but, also with casino's. Another question is this: If all thing are equal between the lottery agency and the gambler, why then are certain numbers limited to player access? Is it because the lottery do not want to lose its control? Lets find the answers to these few questions. Then we can move on to more intricate ones. Thanks.

                      Im not a scientist, but I think they use computers for the same reason we don't use a stamp and send mail.


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                        Hey folks. Chip Polston from the KY Lottery here. First off let me apologize for taking a bit to get a post on here that answered some of your questions. I had a great post written, and in trying to be helpful I committed one of the cardinal sins of the site (posting my email address so people could send me questions) and managed to get my account blocked and lost my post! Sorry Todd!

                        As Todd said in his earlier post, I'll be looking here for any questions that I could answer about this new draw show we'll be starting in just a couple of weeks. Although this wasn't a question, I did want to address some of the concerns I read here about lottery staff members "monitoring" this site. When I log on to my computer every morning, Lottery Post is one of the first three websites I check (after our Facebook page and local paper). I do this for two reasons - one is that this site is the best I've found for player-based news concerning happenings in our industry, and the second is that the site also provides some of the most solid player feedback I've found. If I want to get a good idea as to how players feel about something, this is the site to go to. It's important that we don't operate in an ivory tower, but instead have a good solid grounding of how players feel (both positively and negatively) about what we do. I haven't found another site that can match this one for that type of feedback. So that's what I'm looking for - I will admit that I once got lost in some of the prediction threads, and quite honestly it made my head spin so badly that I never went back!

                        Now for some of your questions:

                        Question for Kentucky Lottery:

                        Do you remain committed to the real ball drawings that players prefer for all games as opposed to ever going to computer drawings which players hate?

                        I probably shouldn't say this, but Ridge Runner, you're a legend in this building! You cemented that status a year or so ago with a comment you made on this site about my boss Steve Casebeer - you said anyone with "case" and "beer" in their name had to be an alright guy. We still talk about that around here!

                        To your question - you're like the Grover Norquist of RNGs, Ridge Runner! As someone posted earlier, we do use random number generators (RNGs) in our 5 Card Cash game as well as for the Kicker component of our KY Cash Ball Game. I think our commitment to balls and machines you asked about is evidenced by the announcement we made yesterday. Shutting down our draw show and going RNG was one of the routes we could have taken. Quite honestly it would've been a lot easier! But we realize and appreciate the importance of players being able to see balls with winning numbers coming out of machines, and by building this studio, we've made the commitment to do that. Does that mean absolutely nothing will change 5 or 10 years down the road? No. But by taking this step - in a time when many other states have shut down their show altogether and gone full RNG - I hope it shows how much we value traditional draws in our product mix.

                        And there were these...uh...interesting questions from mcginnin56:

                        Which game is most profitable for your players?
                         
                        The higher the price on our scratch-off tickets, the higher the return - some of the $20 tickets have prize returns in excess of 70%. And sometimes we get SHELLACKED on our draw games - a series of triple digits and other popular numbers for our Pick 3 game in July paid out 93.5% of sales in prizes!

                        Which game is most profitable for the Kentucky Lottery Commission?

                        Powerball and Mega Millions are the most profitable games - they return about 50 cents on the dollar, and our profits go to college scholarship and grant programs.

                        What will the pick 4 numbers be, for your mid-day drawing for September 5?

                        Definitely something between 0000 and 9999. Ask me again around 1:45 and I'll have a much better answer :)

                        Which question did you like the best?

                        Absolutely that last one.

                        So there we go. Thanks for the questions and some of the downright nice comments I've read on this thread. I'll be back on here tomorrow AM, so fire away with any other questions or concerns. We appreciate you playing, and hope you enjoy our new show starting on the 16th!

                         

                        Thank you Chip for narrowing down those mid-day pick 4 numbers!

                        This will provide LP members with a huge advantage over the general public.

                        Look forward to showing up at your lottery office to make my claim.  Banana


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                          Thank you Chip for narrowing down those mid-day pick 4 numbers!

                          This will provide LP members with a huge advantage over the general public.

                          Look forward to showing up at your lottery office to make my claim.  Banana

                          If you could just hone your wise cracks a bit mcginnin56, you could become a legend without showing up at the lottery office to make a claim.


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                            If you could just hone your wise cracks a bit mcginnin56, you could become a legend without showing up at the lottery office to make a claim.

                            Thank you lotto guru, for your continued words of wit and wisdom.  Conehead

                            My thank you was sincere, and I have no desire to become a legend.

                            One 5+1 legend, is all we can handle at this time.


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                              Thank you lotto guru, for your continued words of wit and wisdom.  Conehead

                              My thank you was sincere, and I have no desire to become a legend.

                              One 5+1 legend, is all we can handle at this time.

                              Well please feel free to join me at the top, it can get lonely up here you know......