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N.J. Assembly panel clears one-year anonymity for lottery winners

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Posted: September 25, 2012, 7:27 pm - IP Logged

I have no problem saying NO.

Are you sure? I know you only think of strangers begging hands but what about your inner circle of friends? what about your family? 

If you can be able to say no and don't care for the relationship, because you know it'll never be the same after that, then you really have no problem.

I am not saying I'd give away all my money, but I'd have a hard time saying no to my close friends and relatives.

I would rather collect anonymously then reveal it to those I choose to gift some money. The rest can continue toiling like they are.


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    Posted: September 25, 2012, 7:37 pm - IP Logged

    Are you sure? I know you only think of strangers begging hands but what about your inner circle of friends? what about your family? 

    If you can be able to say no and don't care for the relationship, because you know it'll never be the same after that, then you really have no problem.

    I am not saying I'd give away all my money, but I'd have a hard time saying no to my close friends and relatives.

    I would rather collect anonymously then reveal it to those I choose to gift some money. The rest can continue toiling like they are.

    I Agree!

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      Posted: September 25, 2012, 8:38 pm - IP Logged

      It is a good start, and it's about time...!

                                                   

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        Posted: September 25, 2012, 8:49 pm - IP Logged

        It is a good start, and it's about time...!

        no doubt!

        well,,,a year is good enough time to get your things together and get the hell out of dodge .

        I already told my girfriend if we hit we're going to a realtor and getting a small place on credit in Maine till we figure out what exactly we will be doing.

        "No matter how bad things may get, I'd like to thank my middle finger

        for always sticking up for me.."

         


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          Posted: September 26, 2012, 12:19 am - IP Logged

          This anonymity is wonderful!  I hope that each state in our good 'ole U.S.A. acquires this very helpful law.  One year is probably enough time to learn investing options, change one's name, and purchase/rent a new homestead in a different county or state.  Good hope, etc.

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            Posted: September 26, 2012, 10:23 am - IP Logged

            Are you sure? I know you only think of strangers begging hands but what about your inner circle of friends? what about your family? 

            If you can be able to say no and don't care for the relationship, because you know it'll never be the same after that, then you really have no problem.

            I am not saying I'd give away all my money, but I'd have a hard time saying no to my close friends and relatives.

            I would rather collect anonymously then reveal it to those I choose to gift some money. The rest can continue toiling like they are.

            When I said NO, I meant total strangers looking for a handout. As far as friends go, I'd give a few of them something and if they didn't like it, tough. As for family, well, immediate family gets a lot and the peripherals get what I can afford to give without affecting me in the long run.

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              Posted: September 26, 2012, 10:56 am - IP Logged

              Are you sure? I know you only think of strangers begging hands but what about your inner circle of friends? what about your family? 

              If you can be able to say no and don't care for the relationship, because you know it'll never be the same after that, then you really have no problem.

              I am not saying I'd give away all my money, but I'd have a hard time saying no to my close friends and relatives.

              I would rather collect anonymously then reveal it to those I choose to gift some money. The rest can continue toiling like they are.

              maringoman,

              On one of the lottery programs on TLC one jackpot winner said he had given several individuals $1,000,000 each - and every single one of them blew it all and came back asking for more.

              "Slap another million on me, I know you've got it."

              Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

              Lep

              There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                Posted: September 26, 2012, 2:54 pm - IP Logged

                YES!  About freakin' time someone finally owned up to the fact that winners become targets & need help to prevent them from becoming victims...

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                  Posted: September 26, 2012, 3:35 pm - IP Logged

                  I agree with golfer1960 in their post above. Why one year?

                  People will be waiting like vultures if they have any suspicion they know who the winner was.

                  Anonymous should mean anonymous with no time restriction.

                  If lawyers have to get involved may I once again suggest the JWPP - Jackpot Winners Protection Program - a parallel to the Witness Protection Program format, but the lawyers handle all attempted correspondence and contacts. Everything goes through 'the program' and the winners are 'in defilade'.

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                  Coin Toss,

                  The time restriction is needed because if you want to get something done in jersey you must do it in baby steps.

                  for instance, statewide casino gambling was proposed in 74 and failed,

                  then atlantic city only was proposed in 76 and passed.

                  36 years goes by and it's being proposed for the medowlands (near jets, giants staduim, racetrack etc.)

                  now that won't happen under the current governer, but will happen at some point.

                  we should be called "the gradulism state" instead of "the garden state"

                  Extraordinary Popular Delusions & the Madness of Crowds    -- Charles Mackay  LL.D.

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                    Posted: September 26, 2012, 5:42 pm - IP Logged

                    N.J. lottery.com does'nt even mention this,

                    LIMO

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                      Posted: September 26, 2012, 6:38 pm - IP Logged

                      haymaker,

                      " ...for instance, statewide casino gambling was proposed in 74 and failed,..."

                      Oh there were casinos but the guys running them didn't want competition from legal casinos, and made some politicians 'offers they couldn't refuse', and greased some palms along with that.

                      Not Jersey but NY, one of the guys I worked with when I first got to Vegas learned to deal in NYC....the casino where he worked was on the 3rd floor of a building with a NYPD precinct HQ on the first floor.

                      As for the Jersey proposal, it's a baby step in the right direction but a 'time bomb' in the sense of putting an expiration date, so to speak, on remaining anonymous.

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.


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                        Posted: September 26, 2012, 7:44 pm - IP Logged

                        Are you sure? I know you only think of strangers begging hands but what about your inner circle of friends? what about your family? 

                        If you can be able to say no and don't care for the relationship, because you know it'll never be the same after that, then you really have no problem.

                        I am not saying I'd give away all my money, but I'd have a hard time saying no to my close friends and relatives.

                        I would rather collect anonymously then reveal it to those I choose to gift some money. The rest can continue toiling like they are.

                        Yes, let the toilers toil........

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                          Posted: September 26, 2012, 8:13 pm - IP Logged

                          maringoman,

                          On one of the lottery programs on TLC one jackpot winner said he had given several individuals $1,000,000 each - and every single one of them blew it all and came back asking for more.

                          "Slap another million on me, I know you've got it."

                            I would have said, "Here is $1 million. You can do whatever you want with it, but this is a one shot deal. There will not be

                          any more after this. If you blow it, too bad that's on you".

                          "You can observe a lot just by watching." Yogi Berra, Hall of Fame baseball player.

                          The numbers will tell you what numbers to play. Pay attention to the numbers.

                          Don't just think outside the box, crush it.

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                            Posted: September 26, 2012, 8:23 pm - IP Logged

                            Well, that's great. One year is more than enough to get used to the money and get used to the idea of being reach. Besides, being able to plan everything in one year to disappear after annoucement is more then enough.

                             

                            After all, you have a chance to wait one year to claim the prize, but certain things is hard to prepare without the money. So, they basically give the same period of waiting. Just having the money in the pocket make a huge difference.


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                              Posted: September 26, 2012, 8:24 pm - IP Logged

                                I would have said, "Here is $1 million. You can do whatever you want with it, but this is a one shot deal. There will not be

                              any more after this. If you blow it, too bad that's on you".

                              I would have said, show me your financial plan for making this money last for at least 20 years.

                              If I liked the plan give the green light, if not, not a thin dime.