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Lottery investigator testifies she urged illegal immigrant to keep, sign $3M ticket

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Posted: September 30, 2012, 11:28 am - IP Logged

the point is he won fair.. Buying the winning ticket has nothing to do with being a illegal immigrant. There was no wrong doing on his part. so he should get his winning as the sole beneficiary. Its sad that those people were not his friends

Welcome to LP   Lynn-Lynn, sorry to disagree but I view "being an illegal immigrant" as wrong doing.


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    So I guess because this guy is an immigrant and can't speak or read english he deserves to be ripped off??  Lets assume you are visiting Italy and you win the lottery, does your not speaking Italian justify some locals lying, coercing you and ripping you off?  Obviously that's unlikely because most of us are slightly more sophisticated and wouldnt' let something like this happen.  However, we're not all fortunate enough to be American and/or 'sophisticated' with respect to the legal system.  Its easy to say that he's illegal and shouldn't be here to begin with, but there's the bigger picture of what these guys did to this lottery winner.  I fully believe they saw an opportunity and screwed this guy.  I hope they are penalized to the full extent of the law.

    You call this person "an immigrant" and then go on to compare him to a tourist in Italy?? Really?? You give liberals a bad name with your sick and twisted logic. 

    The person in question is an illegal immigrant, NOT "an immigrant" or a tourist........


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      Posted: September 30, 2012, 2:05 pm - IP Logged

      the point is he won fair.. Buying the winning ticket has nothing to do with being a illegal immigrant. There was no wrong doing on his part. so he should get his winning as the sole beneficiary. Its sad that those people were not his friends

      As far as "wrong doing on his part" it would be kinda like you breaking into a liquor store when its closed and then deciding to pay for the goods you take and leaving the money (for the goods) on the counter.

      Then upon being apprehended out side the liquor store expecting to keep the goods that you "paid for"

      Would you really try to tell the authorities there was "no wrong doing" on your part?? If you had not broken into the liquor store you would not have had opportunity to "pay for" the goods and "do no wrong"

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        As far as "wrong doing on his part" it would be kinda like you breaking into a liquor store when its closed and then deciding to pay for the goods you take and leaving the money (for the goods) on the counter.

        Then upon being apprehended out side the liquor store expecting to keep the goods that you "paid for"

        Would you really try to tell the authorities there was "no wrong doing" on your part?? If you had not broken into the liquor store you would not have had opportunity to "pay for" the goods and "do no wrong"

        Not quite.  It would be more like me robbing a liquor store and then buying a winning lottery ticket from the guy I just robbed.  They could try me all day long for the robbery, but I legally bought the winning ticket and therefore they could not take it from me.  One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. This person's legal status has nothing to do with his buying and winning the lottery and as such he shouldnt have to forfeit the winnings because he can't speak or read English or because of how he gained entry into the country.

        Then again, I could be completely wrong with my sick, twisted liberal logic.


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          Not quite.  It would be more like me robbing a liquor store and then buying a winning lottery ticket from the guy I just robbed.  They could try me all day long for the robbery, but I legally bought the winning ticket and therefore they could not take it from me.  One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. This person's legal status has nothing to do with his buying and winning the lottery and as such he shouldnt have to forfeit the winnings because he can't speak or read English or because of how he gained entry into the country.

          Then again, I could be completely wrong with my sick, twisted liberal logic.

          How about robbing a bank, liquor store, and a jewelry store.  Then fly back to your native country, and live happily ever after with the loot.  Lovies

          Who needs the lottery ticket anyways?  Jester Laugh


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            Posted: October 1, 2012, 8:11 pm - IP Logged

            Not quite.  It would be more like me robbing a liquor store and then buying a winning lottery ticket from the guy I just robbed.  They could try me all day long for the robbery, but I legally bought the winning ticket and therefore they could not take it from me.  One thing has NOTHING to do with the other. This person's legal status has nothing to do with his buying and winning the lottery and as such he shouldnt have to forfeit the winnings because he can't speak or read English or because of how he gained entry into the country.

            Then again, I could be completely wrong with my sick, twisted liberal logic.

            Perhaps if it was YOUR house that got robbed you would feel differently??

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              Perhaps if it was YOUR house that got robbed you would feel differently??

              Feel differently how exactly?   Dislike an ENTIRE group of people like illegal immigrants because one happened to break into my house??   Not likely.  There are stupid people in every ethnic/social group.  If I got mugged by a _______ (black, white, brown, etc.) person I certainly wouldn't hold it against the entire ethnic group.  That's called racism and discrimination.  There are good and bad people in every color.


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                Feel differently how exactly?   Dislike an ENTIRE group of people like illegal immigrants because one happened to break into my house??   Not likely.  There are stupid people in every ethnic/social group.  If I got mugged by a _______ (black, white, brown, etc.) person I certainly wouldn't hold it against the entire ethnic group.  That's called racism and discrimination.  There are good and bad people in every color.

                I got mugged by a Martian, now I hate the entire race of Martians.   Chair


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                  Posted: October 2, 2012, 8:08 am - IP Logged

                  So I guess because this guy is an immigrant and can't speak or read english he deserves to be ripped off??  Lets assume you are visiting Italy and you win the lottery, does your not speaking Italian justify some locals lying, coercing you and ripping you off?  Obviously that's unlikely because most of us are slightly more sophisticated and wouldnt' let something like this happen.  However, we're not all fortunate enough to be American and/or 'sophisticated' with respect to the legal system.  Its easy to say that he's illegal and shouldn't be here to begin with, but there's the bigger picture of what these guys did to this lottery winner.  I fully believe they saw an opportunity and screwed this guy.  I hope they are penalized to the full extent of the law.

                  "So I guess because this guy is an immigrant and can't speak or read english he deserves to be ripped off?? "

                  Yes it actually does. He does deserve to be ripped off.

                  It would be the same thing as going to a strip joint hooking up with a stripper and having unprotected sex with her and contacting a sexually trasmitted disease. Even if the strip joint claims they check all their strippers out and says they are checked for STD's.

                   Does that mean they dont have an std? Or contact one in the past week?

                  Anyone deserve an std if they have sex with a stripper from a strip joint unprotected.

                   Lets assume you are visiting Italy and you win the lottery, does your not speaking Italian justify some locals lying, coercing you and ripping you off?

                  So yes if you were planning on visiting Italy and didnt take the time to learn Italian and won the lottery while there and the Italians ripped you off. YES You deserve to be ripped off!

                  Just as the man deserves an std for having sex with the stripper from the strip joint because he was gullible and didnt take the time to learn english. He's an idiot!

                  Now it isnt a nice thing that happened but he is an idiot!

                  For instance on Craigslist their is a warning not to take money orders from anyone buying an item from you its posted everywhere! And if you disregard the warning and accept a money order and it is a fake money order and your were ripped off, you deserved to be ripped off! Your an idiot!

                  I dont mean you personally are an idiot Im just talking in general terms

                   

                  And I do hope  that they are persecuted to the fullest!!! Because they deserve that as well!!!

                  In otherwords if you'e going to rip someone off and you get busted you deserve to get persecuted! Because they're also idiots! They weren't smart enough to pull off their harbrained idea!! Idiots!

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                    I simply cannot argue with your stipper logic.  I yield to you sir!!  Cheers

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                      Posted: October 2, 2012, 1:08 pm - IP Logged

                      Fact is, our laws don't prohibit illegal immigrants from playing the lottery or collecting lottery winnings.

                      And that is egregiously wrong.

                      Letting criminals (Yes, they are CRIMINALS when they enter our country ILLEGALLY) prosper during the commission of a crime is an absolute outrage. EVERYTHING they do while here ILLEGALLY is being done during the commission of a crime.

                      They should NOT be allowed to claim millions of dollars of law-abiding Americans' money while here committing a crime. We might not be able to prevent them from buying tickets but we can sure as hell stop them from collecting jackpots.

                      Liberals like to treat Illegals as some kind of subjugated underclass that deserve special considerations and perks for some reason. NO, they are NOT a subjugated underclass, they are CRIMINALS! If bleeding-heart liberals need to assuage their guilt complexes, they should feel sorry for the masses of law-abiding people waiting patiently to enter our country LEGALLY. The ones who are proving they meet all the requirements and jumping through all the hoops to do it LEGALLY.

                      Have a little care and compassion and consideration for THOSE PEOPLE, the GOOD PEOPLE who want to come here -- NOT the criminals who jump the line and sneak in.

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                        Posted: October 2, 2012, 1:33 pm - IP Logged

                        "So I guess because this guy is an immigrant and can't speak or read english he deserves to be ripped off?? "

                        Yes it actually does. He does deserve to be ripped off.

                        It would be the same thing as going to a strip joint hooking up with a stripper and having unprotected sex with her and contacting a sexually trasmitted disease. Even if the strip joint claims they check all their strippers out and says they are checked for STD's.

                         Does that mean they dont have an std? Or contact one in the past week?

                        Anyone deserve an std if they have sex with a stripper from a strip joint unprotected.

                         Lets assume you are visiting Italy and you win the lottery, does your not speaking Italian justify some locals lying, coercing you and ripping you off?

                        So yes if you were planning on visiting Italy and didnt take the time to learn Italian and won the lottery while there and the Italians ripped you off. YES You deserve to be ripped off!

                        Just as the man deserves an std for having sex with the stripper from the strip joint because he was gullible and didnt take the time to learn english. He's an idiot!

                        Now it isnt a nice thing that happened but he is an idiot!

                        For instance on Craigslist their is a warning not to take money orders from anyone buying an item from you its posted everywhere! And if you disregard the warning and accept a money order and it is a fake money order and your were ripped off, you deserved to be ripped off! Your an idiot!

                        I dont mean you personally are an idiot Im just talking in general terms

                         

                        And I do hope  that they are persecuted to the fullest!!! Because they deserve that as well!!!

                        In otherwords if you'e going to rip someone off and you get busted you deserve to get persecuted! Because they're also idiots! They weren't smart enough to pull off their harbrained idea!! Idiots!

                        DESERVE is a poor word choice. You have unprotected sex you subject yourself to the potential dire consequences.

                        He was evading the law and got in with the wrong crew which is usually the only people willing to deal with illegals.

                        He didn't know the difference between 5% and 50% but knew it was a winning ticket?

                        Split the child in half - pay uncle sam his due, pay the state all expenses he burdened the state with and put the balance back into the lottery fund.

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                          Posted: October 3, 2012, 10:24 am - IP Logged

                          Fact is, our laws don't prohibit illegal immigrants from playing the lottery or collecting lottery winnings.

                          And that is egregiously wrong.

                          Letting criminals (Yes, they are CRIMINALS when they enter our country ILLEGALLY) prosper during the commission of a crime is an absolute outrage. EVERYTHING they do while here ILLEGALLY is being done during the commission of a crime.

                          They should NOT be allowed to claim millions of dollars of law-abiding Americans' money while here committing a crime. We might not be able to prevent them from buying tickets but we can sure as hell stop them from collecting jackpots.

                          Liberals like to treat Illegals as some kind of subjugated underclass that deserve special considerations and perks for some reason. NO, they are NOT a subjugated underclass, they are CRIMINALS! If bleeding-heart liberals need to assuage their guilt complexes, they should feel sorry for the masses of law-abiding people waiting patiently to enter our country LEGALLY. The ones who are proving they meet all the requirements and jumping through all the hoops to do it LEGALLY.

                          Have a little care and compassion and consideration for THOSE PEOPLE, the GOOD PEOPLE who want to come here -- NOT the criminals who jump the line and sneak in.

                          I agree, what irks me more is when they March around and protest, sorry the right to assemble is my Constitutional right, not yours, go home.

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                            did he get your lottery ticket ?

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                              did he get your lottery ticket ?

                              He did, how could you have known?  Eek

                              Fortunately (never thought I would be saying this about my lottery ticket!), it was a losing ticket.  LOL