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Posted: April 27, 2013, 9:47 am - IP Logged

The brothers' mother, Wasa Ashkar, said her husband, Neyef, sold the winning ticket to Andy at the couple's Green Ale Market, but she couldn't remember exactly when. In an interview last month with MailOnline last month, Mrs Ashkar said that they are now known as 'the good luck' store because of her son's big win.

She said that while they have never had a similar multi-million dollar win, there have been a number of smaller victories in their shop. A few years ago, a woman won $700,000 in a similar scratch-off game.

She said she and her husband were Palestinians from Jerusalem who immigrated to the United States nearly 40 years ago and have owned the store for 12 years.

A whole family of lying thieves.

Deport 'em all back to where they came from after they finish their maximum sentences.

Let 'em rip off their own people.


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    Posted: April 27, 2013, 10:05 am - IP Logged

    Hmmm- So the Mother is saying that her husband sold the winning ticket to their Son? She had better watch it, if she is called to the stand and repeats that, she will be charged with lying to the court.
    Chris Hanson did a piece on lottery convenient store owners who are " super lucky" they always winning along with brothers,cousins & close relatives.What a lucky bunch. Come to find out that their good fortune stems from people who walk into these stores and ask the store clerks to check their lottery tickets.. * (use your Iimagination)
    I see the same pattern here.

    That could all be true, but you have no way of KNOWING that the clerks cheated and now your calling the Mom a liar. What if your wrong and making false accusations?

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      Could all be True in a alternate Universe Ronnie.

      This so called " lucky family" is on trial. Both brothers and the Father. If Andy was such a lucky guy- why does he need to rip a scratcher out of someone's hand?- hey, Andy wins all the time right? Plus Andy has won so many times over the years-his  the Palestinian version of Richard Lustig huh?

      What did you expect the Mother to say  " Yes my Son did take that ticket out of Miles hands?"

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        Could all be True in a alternate Universe Ronnie.

        This so called " lucky family" is on trial. Both brothers and the Father. If Andy was such a lucky guy- why does he need to rip a scratcher out of someone's hand?- hey, Andy wins all the time right? Plus Andy has won so many times over the years-his  the Palestinian version of Richard Lustig huh?

        What did you expect the Mother to say  " Yes my Son did take that ticket out of Miles hands?"

        Dunk

        Oh ok, so "its the cracks fault" that Miles lost a $5 million ticket and never told the police or called the lottery office? You always believe anything a trust worth crackhead tells you right?

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          The brothers' mother, Wasa Ashkar, said her husband, Neyef, sold the winning ticket to Andy at the couple's Green Ale Market, but she couldn't remember exactly when. In an interview last month with MailOnline last month, Mrs Ashkar said that they are now known as 'the good luck' store because of her son's big win.

          She said that while they have never had a similar multi-million dollar win, there have been a number of smaller victories in their shop. A few years ago, a woman won $700,000 in a similar scratch-off game.

          She said she and her husband were Palestinians from Jerusalem who immigrated to the United States nearly 40 years ago and have owned the store for 12 years.

          "The brothers' mother, Wasa Ashkar, said her husband, Neyef, sold the winning ticket to Andy at the couple's Green Ale Market, but she couldn't remember exactly when."

          The lottery knows when the ticket was scanned, and IIRC it was the day after the ticket (or the roll) was activated. That would mean the rightful owner knew it was a winner on the day it was bought or the day after it was bought. Who wouldn't forget what day they won $5 million? Her story makes perfect sense and sounds completely believable.

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            Posted: April 27, 2013, 8:46 pm - IP Logged

            "The brothers' mother, Wasa Ashkar, said her husband, Neyef, sold the winning ticket to Andy at the couple's Green Ale Market, but she couldn't remember exactly when."

            The lottery knows when the ticket was scanned, and IIRC it was the day after the ticket (or the roll) was activated. That would mean the rightful owner knew it was a winner on the day it was bought or the day after it was bought. Who wouldn't forget what day they won $5 million? Her story makes perfect sense and sounds completely believable.

            Well sorry i disagree with you. This familly hide the ticket for six yrs and closed the store before trying to cash the winning ticket. Something smells bad here if there store was such a luck store and their family with better odds of winning than all their custormers combined then why don't they share the lucky news 24hrs after everytime they win and let the world know how lucky the store is and get free publicity but no they don't but hide peoples winning ticket in bank vault for six yrs , close there lucky store and come up with a silly story to share with his brother for being his lucky  crime partner and then tell the lottery official they will settle for less money to avoid free press ceremony . I think the police dogs need to be released to chase this family out of the public court room for good they are a disgrace to basic humanity after all there stupid effort they still loss more than they could gain so what is the point of being greedy and very stupid.

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              Well sorry i disagree with you. This familly hide the ticket for six yrs and closed the store before trying to cash the winning ticket. Something smells bad here if there store was such a luck store and their family with better odds of winning than all their custormers combined then why don't they share the lucky news 24hrs after everytime they win and let the world know how lucky the store is and get free publicity but no they don't but hide peoples winning ticket in bank vault for six yrs , close there lucky store and come up with a silly story to share with his brother for being his lucky  crime partner and then tell the lottery official they will settle for less money to avoid free press ceremony . I think the police dogs need to be released to chase this family out of the public court room for good they are a disgrace to basic humanity after all there stupid effort they still loss more than they could gain so what is the point of being greedy and very stupid.

              I on the other hand am not sorry to disagree with Ronnie & Floyd.  They think this event never happened,  that Miles being a present or former crackhead is imagining this- its all in his head. You get robbed and suddenly you the bad guy. This family did not want a jury trial because the jury would have seen through their BS.
              What the heck does smoking crack the night before have anything to do with your $5 million lottery ticket getting snatched out of your hand?
              That's tantamount to saying if a beggar gets beaten up for asking for money- he deserved it...

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                "The brothers' mother, Wasa Ashkar, said her husband, Neyef, sold the winning ticket to Andy at the couple's Green Ale Market, but she couldn't remember exactly when."

                The lottery knows when the ticket was scanned, and IIRC it was the day after the ticket (or the roll) was activated. That would mean the rightful owner knew it was a winner on the day it was bought or the day after it was bought. Who wouldn't forget what day they won $5 million? Her story makes perfect sense and sounds completely believable.

                "Her story makes perfect sense and sounds completely believable."

                Sure it does, Floydie. LOL

                Sure it does.

                Makes perfect sense and sounds completely believable. Thumbs Up


                                                             
                                     
                                                         

                 

                 

                 

                 

                                                                                                                   

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                  I on the other hand am not sorry to disagree with Ronnie & Floyd.  They think this event never happened,  that Miles being a present or former crackhead is imagining this- its all in his head. You get robbed and suddenly you the bad guy. This family did not want a jury trial because the jury would have seen through their BS.
                  What the heck does smoking crack the night before have anything to do with your $5 million lottery ticket getting snatched out of your hand?
                  That's tantamount to saying if a beggar gets beaten up for asking for money- he deserved it...

                  That's the same question I'm asking, what does being on crack the night before have to do with LETTING someone snatch $5 million from you without telling the police, the lottery office, his Mommy, or anyone else?

                  His story would be believable to me if he showed up in court and said "Look your Honor, at the time I didn't care about the $5 million as much as I wanted to just take the $4000. and go get high" ........ 

                  The whole idea that someone snatched the ticket away from him, and he never said anything to anyone is what really stinks about this story. But then, being a doper and a liar go hand in hand.

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                    That's the same question I'm asking, what does being on crack the night before have to do with LETTING someone snatch $5 million from you without telling the police, the lottery office, his Mommy, or anyone else?

                    His story would be believable to me if he showed up in court and said "Look your Honor, at the time I didn't care about the $5 million as much as I wanted to just take the $4000. and go get high" ........ 

                    The whole idea that someone snatched the ticket away from him, and he never said anything to anyone is what really stinks about this story. But then, being a doper and a liar go hand in hand.

                    Ronnie- there are time that you have your moments, but this one Arizona is not one of them. Miles explained it to the judge- Remember this Ronnie..

                    Asked by defense attorney Robert Durr why he didn't go to police or lottery officials when the ticket was allegedly stolen from him, Miles became obviously agitated, raising his voice with each new answer.

                    "What was I going to tell police?" he asked. "I didn't have nothing. What was I against a store owner? Who am I — a crackhead against a store owner?"

                    Miles is telling the truth. Its kinda strange that you do not see it that why Ronnie, but then again- like l said" there are times you have your moments but ...."

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                      Why no testimony about the $4000. he was supposed to have received?

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                        Why no testimony about the $4000. he was supposed to have received?

                        Dear Ronnie did you read this...from last year?

                        NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket

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                        New York LotteryNew York Lottery: NY brothers charged in plot to steal $5M New York Lottery ticket Rate this:

                        They waited until shortly before the $5 million winning ticket in a scratch-off lottery game would have been worthless. Then, when two brothers from the Syracuse area went to claim the prize, they made an unusual offer: They told state lottery officials that they would be happy to take home less than the full amount if they could avoid a news conference.

                        (See NY brothers claim $5M win from '06 lottery ticketLottery Post, Oct. 17, 2012.)

                        The officials made them wait some more, saying a security check had to be completed before the big payday.

                        But "security check" turned out to be another name for an investigation that ultimately led to the brothers' arrest on Tuesday on larceny and other charges. The authorities said the two brothers had tricked the actual winner, a customer at their parents' convenience store.

                        The brothers — Andy Ashkar, 34, and Nayel Ashkar, 36 — were charged with attempted grand larceny and conspiracy. The Onondaga County district attorney, William J. Fitzpatrick, said in a statement that Andy Ashkar was also charged with criminal possession of stolen property, the ticket in the "$500 Million Extravaganza" game, sold in October 2006.

                        Andy Ashkar told the buyer at the time that it was only a $5,000 winner and, after pocketing $1,000 as a "fee," gave the man $4,000, according to the statement from Mr. Fitzpatrick.

                        Mr. Fitzpatrick said in the statement that when the Ashkars went to the lottery's headquarters in Schenectady in March of this year, they were told they would have to wait for the "security check."

                        The next milestone mentioned in Mr. Fitzpatrick's statement was an article last month in The Post-Standard of Syracuse about the Ashkars and the winning ticket — a story Mr. Fitzpatrick said "was actually put out by the lottery security division in an effort to have the real winner come forward." Other news outlets including The Associated Press also carried the report, based on a news release from the lottery's communications office.

                        John Lammers, the enterprise editor of The Post-Standard, said the newspaper assigned two reporters to the story because the editors wondered why the lottery had disclosed so much in a news release. Usually, he said, the lottery waits to announce a winner's identity at a news conference.

                        "Nobody put a fast one over on us," he said. "We were suspicious of this from the get-go. Something was going on.

                        "We put it on the front page because of all the red flags, and our readers got it immediately."

                        The lottery's news release said Andy Ashkar had bought the ticket but had waited to redeem it "out of concern that the winning ticket could negatively influence his life if he did not plan properly before being publicly introduced."

                        "Most notably," the news release said, "Ashkar said he did not want the winning ticket to influence his engagement and subsequent marriage." The release also said that Andy Ashkar wanted to share the money with his brother "to show his appreciation for all that Nayel had done for him during his life."

                        Carolyn Hapeman, a spokeswoman for the lottery, said at the time that it was "unusual" for the lottery "to send out a prerelease about an upcoming winner event." The news release said the lottery "requires" players who win $1 million or more to attend a news conference.

                        "We've been getting a lot of calls about this particular ticket and these individuals," she said on Oct. 17, "and rather than anybody question 'Is it true? Is it true?' we sent out what we know thus far." On Tuesday, she referred questions about the case to Mr. Fitzpatrick's office.

                        His statement said the false release had served its purpose; the real winner had come forward "and will hopefully be awarded his actual winnings pending the conclusion of the case against the Ashkar brothers."

                        There was no answer at the Ashkar family's store or at their homes.

                        As for the real winner, the authorities did not release his name.

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                          i didnt think thre was any doubt the crackhead was the rightful owner.  I bet the family was hoping natural causes would take their course, and he would be long dead in 6 years.  bottom line is,  6 years, that 1 mill is worh about 500k now if you take into account inflation. 

                          the victim  has prob  had his ego destroyed he  felt he wasnt worth fighting for. he didnt realise 2 important facts, the lotto  comossion cares, and  his finger prints are prob still on the ticket.

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                            Floyd- if you out there in the cold, come on in....

                            Floyd- did you read the article l  posted for both you and Ronnie's benefit from last year?- has it changed your mind about these " Lucky lottery Brothers" (Andy Ashkar, 34, and Nayel Ashkar, 36)?

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                              i didnt think thre was any doubt the crackhead was the rightful owner.  I bet the family was hoping natural causes would take their course, and he would be long dead in 6 years.  bottom line is,  6 years, that 1 mill is worh about 500k now if you take into account inflation. 

                              the victim  has prob  had his ego destroyed he  felt he wasnt worth fighting for. he didnt realise 2 important facts, the lotto  comossion cares, and  his finger prints are prob still on the ticket.

                              If nature wouldn't take its course, I bet the lottery would.

                              Everybody knows what would happen if you give 5 million dollars to a crackhead or even a recovered crackhead.