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Decision in $5 million lottery ticket theft trial in Judge's hands

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Posted: April 30, 2013, 2:11 pm - IP Logged

What a mess. If he accepted the 4k, the defense could say he sold it and no longer has rights to it.

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    Posted: April 30, 2013, 2:31 pm - IP Logged

    What a mess. If he accepted the 4k, the defense could say he sold it and no longer has rights to it.

    It is not a mess because the defence has not admited giving hin $4000 and his initial claim says he bought the ticket unless they want to change their initial filing that they own the ticket from get go b4 they were bursted now they are trapped and can't change stories south african blade runner.

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      Posted: April 30, 2013, 2:33 pm - IP Logged

      If these dirtbag thieves get away with this, look for the same kind of thievery to spread across the country even worse than it is already.

      The precedent will be set and it'll be well worth the risk of getting caught to make millions.

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        Posted: April 30, 2013, 2:59 pm - IP Logged

        If these dirtbag thieves get away with this, look for the same kind of thievery to spread across the country even worse than it is already.

        The precedent will be set and it'll be well worth the risk of getting caught to make millions.

        I Agree!

        Judge Fahey did the right thing so far.

         

        "Once the courtroom opened at 9 a.m., Assistant District Attorney Beth Van Doren rested her case. Defense attorneys then motioned to have the charges dismissed against their clients, saying Van Doren had not provided sufficient proof for the trial to continue."

        Judge Joseph Fahey denied the motion, and the defense called their first witness to the stand.

         

        ** Andy's explanation for holding onto the ticket until the very last to cash it for less to avoid publicity is classic self incrimination.


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          Posted: April 30, 2013, 3:28 pm - IP Logged

          It is not a mess because the defence has not admited giving hin $4000 and his initial claim says he bought the ticket unless they want to change their initial filing that they own the ticket from get go b4 they were bursted now they are trapped and can't change stories south african blade runner.

          Too bad the dope head couldnt prove that he recieved $4000. Perhaps his dealer didnt want to show up?


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            I Agree!

            Judge Fahey did the right thing so far.

             

            "Once the courtroom opened at 9 a.m., Assistant District Attorney Beth Van Doren rested her case. Defense attorneys then motioned to have the charges dismissed against their clients, saying Van Doren had not provided sufficient proof for the trial to continue."

            Judge Joseph Fahey denied the motion, and the defense called their first witness to the stand.

             

            ** Andy's explanation for holding onto the ticket until the very last to cash it for less to avoid publicity is classic self incrimination.

            Peoeple on LP SCREAM for anonymity, so how is a desire to avoid publicity classic self incrimination.

            What?

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              Posted: April 30, 2013, 3:38 pm - IP Logged

              You would not be taking Andy's side of the argument if you were the one who was given $4,000  instead of $ 4, 996,000.

              Dope head or Not. Practice what you Preach.

              Luke 6:31.

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                Posted: April 30, 2013, 3:55 pm - IP Logged

                i would sue the lottery, for allowing a game ticket to  stay valid longer than the statute of limitations.

                2014 = -1016; 2015= -1409; 2016 JAN = -106; FEB= -81; MAR= -131; APR= - 87: MAY= -91; JUN= -39; JUL=-134; AUG= -124; SEP = -123; OCT= -84  NOV=- 73 TOT= -3498

                keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297


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                  You would not be taking Andy's side of the argument if you were the one who was given $4,000  instead of $ 4, 996,000.

                  Dope head or Not. Practice what you Preach.

                  Luke 6:31.

                  I just dont believe the guys story, sorry if you dont like my opinion. It dosnt seem possible that a guy would have his $5 million taken away, run down the street after the guy, and then say "oh well" and go home.


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                    Posted: April 30, 2013, 4:08 pm - IP Logged

                    Here is a guy who won the same game twice and didn't have any problem reading his ticket.......

                    http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=93764 

                    Remember... Miles testified in court "I didn't know how much it was worth"   Yeah right.......

                    You have to be real stupid to believe that story.


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                      Posted: April 30, 2013, 4:20 pm - IP Logged

                      If you handed a 1000 people a winning $5 million scratch ticket and asked "how much is this worth" you will get 1000 responses of "holy crap" and zero responses of "MMMMM I don't know. I will ask a cashier"

                      And this guy was the one who (supposedly) bought the ticket, not just an observer.

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                        Posted: April 30, 2013, 4:41 pm - IP Logged

                        Here is a guy who won the same game twice and didn't have any problem reading his ticket.......

                        http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=93764 

                        Remember... Miles testified in court "I didn't know how much it was worth"   Yeah right.......

                        You have to be real stupid to believe that story.

                        Ronnie: You are not a physician and neither am l- But are you aware of something called " Mental Health?"

                        In all likelihood Miles could have a mental handicap, meaning that he does not have the ability to reason rationally and finds it hard to comprehend things as simple as money, figures, math. Doing crack may be an " out" for him to mask his situation, by going into his own little world where he feels he is in an environment he can control.

                        You passing judgement on this guy as though his as " normal as you are". His outbursts in court may be telling us something, can you not see?

                         

                             


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                          Ronnie: You are not a physician and neither am l- But are you aware of something called " Mental Health?"

                          In all likelihood Miles could have a mental handicap, meaning that he does not have the ability to reason rationally and finds it hard to comprehend things as simple as money, figures, math. Doing crack may be an " out" for him to mask his situation, by going into his own little world where he feels he is in an environment he can control.

                          You passing judgement on this guy as though his as " normal as you are". His outbursts in court may be telling us something, can you not see?

                           

                               

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                            Ronnie: You are not a physician and neither am l- But are you aware of something called " Mental Health?"

                            In all likelihood Miles could have a mental handicap, meaning that he does not have the ability to reason rationally and finds it hard to comprehend things as simple as money, figures, math. Doing crack may be an " out" for him to mask his situation, by going into his own little world where he feels he is in an environment he can control.

                            You passing judgement on this guy as though his as " normal as you are". His outbursts in court may be telling us something, can you not see?

                             

                                 

                            Handicapped? http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/03/as_lottery_ticket_trial_approa.html 

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                            Robert Miles, of Syracuse, says he bought a New York Lottery scratch-off ticket worth $5 million in 2006 at the Green Ale Market, but was tricked by a son of the market's owners into believing it was worth only $5,000. Miles is shown in a family photo. An Onondaga County grand jury indicted brothers Andy and Nayel Ashkar in November 2012 on attempted grand larceny and conspiracy charges one month after they tried to cash in the $5 million ticket.Supplied photo

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                              Posted: April 30, 2013, 4:56 pm - IP Logged

                              His got a calculator by his side, what does that tell you?

                               

                              My earlier Post...

                              In all likelihood Miles could have a mental handicap, meaning that he does not have the ability to reason rationally and finds it hard to comprehend things as simple as money, figures, math."

                               

                               

                              (l think l just Broke you Ronnie- you got your lunch handed to you.)