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Woman who let Powerball winner go ahead of her has no regrets

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Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:43 pm - IP Logged

1. RNGs are generated for lottery tickets, especially one the size of Powerball that has a zillion combinations, just like the RNG with a slot machine. A set of numbers is "stopped" like a slot machine at the very nano-second that the clerk hits the Print button.

 

2. I think this woman is looking for her 15 minutes as well. I mean really? Is the person in the deli that was waiting after the old lady in line complaining? Maybe you should blame the seafood guy for him weighing out the old lady's mahi-mahi for timing it out properly. I agree that this will set a very dangerous precedent.

 

3. Scratch offs, whereas it stinks that the person lost 10 in a row, those are static, where timing and the amount of tickets bought could affect a particular winning sum since these are in fact pre-printed.

 

This whole story sickens me. It could very well have been someone on the other end of the country that was in line at that exact moment that would have hit the RNG to prove the winning ticket, AND THEN - would have to be lucky enough for the Powerball drums to push out the exact 1 in a gazillion combinations to have you win that jackpot. This is so bogus it's not even funny.

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    Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:44 pm - IP Logged

    Pffft. Yeah right.

    Call me cynical but I don't believe this little contrivance for a second. 

    24 hours later and this woman is in the news more than the actual winner. Why? She is milking this for her 15 minutes of fame and possibly hope that the real winner will feel bad enough to give her a cut. Either way, she's getting her little notoriety as being the person who did NOT win. Really?

    She's been making the rounds to a whole lot of different stations. Getting a whole lot of media buzz. So puh-lease.

    I am not a fan of media-whores. Move it along and continue on with on with your wife. You didn't win nor were you going to win.

    This very well could be true.....but I hope Ms. Mckenzie's memory is still good enough to remember if this was the same lady.

    If this is not the woman AND/OR if the story she is giving is not how everything took place, I'd be one ticked off RICH old lady.

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      Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:48 pm - IP Logged

      Poor Mindy Crandell. The way I see it is that some over enthusiastic reporter hounded her to give a statement about the whole thing. Now she is being suspected of having sly intentions. Perhaps Mindy should have said "no comments" and also refused to have her picture with her daughter taken. 

      That money's gone fo ever

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        Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:49 pm - IP Logged

        Did you read thewhole story, or just thumb through the comments?

        This is what the lady at the lottery counter said to Mrs McKenzie:

        "The lady at the counter stopped Mackenzie to allow Crandell to reclaim her spot in line. Crandell declined the offer and told Mackenzie "go ahead. " It was a move that could have potentially cost the Crandells the $590.5 million Powerball ticket. Mackenzie purchased one Quick Pick ticket and left the store."

         

         What from this story does not sound right to you?

        I was referring to her vast number of media appearances etc and if you look carefully, I checked the post comment to which I was replying.

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          Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

          i say roll the footage so we can get to the bottom of this real storyHurray!

          Okay, but here is the thing. Even if she allowed this woman to go ahead of her in the line...so what?

          You don't think it's just a tad bit odd for a person who didn't actually win to milk the media the way she has, and giving constant interviews like she's a freakin' celebrity?

          I know more about this woman than about the person who actually won!

          Why?

          Why is it so important to her to let everyone think that her good Samaritan act cost her the winning ticket. 

          So the daughter recognized the woman as the person who cut ahead (and even that is a bit farfetched. I let people go ahead of me all the time, a month later I couldn't tell you what they looked like. But I'll concede that point for the sake of argument), after the daughter said that's the woman who cut ahead, how does it go from that to 24 hours of nonstop interviews? 

          It's as if she went from recognizing the woman to calling up every news station she could find so she could tell her story of how she missed the big one.

          That's just waaaaaay too much attention seeking in my book. She wants fame and she wants to be given some of that money. Make no mistake about it.

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            Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:51 pm - IP Logged

            Poor Mindy Crandell. The way I see it is that some over enthusiastic reporter hounded her to give a statement about the whole thing. Now she is being suspected of having sly intentions. Perhaps Mindy should have said "no comments" and also refused to have her picture with her daughter taken. 

            TRUE!

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              Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:52 pm - IP Logged

              Okay, but here is the thing. Even if she allowed this woman to go ahead of her in the line...so what?

              You don't think it's just a tad bit odd for a person who didn't actually win to milk the media the way she has, and giving constant interviews like she's a freakin' celebrity?

              I know more about this woman than about the person who actually won!

              Why?

              Why is it so important to her to let everyone think that her good Samaritan act cost her the winning ticket. 

              So the daughter recognized the woman as the person who cut ahead (and even that is a bit farfetched. I let people go ahead of me all the time, a month later I couldn't tell you what they looked like. But I'll concede that point for the sake of argument), after the daughter said that's the woman who cut ahead, how does it go from that to 24 hours of nonstop interviews? 

              It's as if she went from recognizing the woman to calling up every news station she could find so she could tell her story of how she missed the big one.

              That's just waaaaaay too much attention seeking in my book. She wants fame and she wants to be given some of that money. Make no mistake about it.

              Well said!

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                Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:53 pm - IP Logged

                I have ALWAYS been the good samaritan type myself AND I' am also aware that there was a chance the numbers wouldn't have been the same had she not allowed the woman to cut in line, HOWEVER, I can't help but feel I after reading this story if I'd ever feel the same way again when it comes to purchasing lottery tickets.....No more cuttin in line ahead of ME..As Si Robertson would probably say, "You better jump back JACK!" hehee 

                I can only hope the woman would reward her. I know I certainly would but like Ronnie mentioned in an earlier response, if she's the type that would cut in line,( if that's what really happened)..then there's a chance she might be the type that wouldn't even reward her.

                 

                I'm sure if she doesn't do something for her, she can expect to get a lot of backlashing, but I would hope she would do it for the right reasons.

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                  Posted: June 6, 2013, 6:56 pm - IP Logged

                  Poor Mindy Crandell. The way I see it is that some over enthusiastic reporter hounded her to give a statement about the whole thing. Now she is being suspected of having sly intentions. Perhaps Mindy should have said "no comments" and also refused to have her picture with her daughter taken. 

                  Really?

                  How would the reporter have known about this story in the first place? Did someone get a copy of the Publix video surveillance for that time, saw the old lady cut ahead and tracked Mindy down to get her story?

                  I think not.

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                    Posted: June 6, 2013, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

                    1. RNGs are generated for lottery tickets, especially one the size of Powerball that has a zillion combinations, just like the RNG with a slot machine. A set of numbers is "stopped" like a slot machine at the very nano-second that the clerk hits the Print button.

                     

                    2. I think this woman is looking for her 15 minutes as well. I mean really? Is the person in the deli that was waiting after the old lady in line complaining? Maybe you should blame the seafood guy for him weighing out the old lady's mahi-mahi for timing it out properly. I agree that this will set a very dangerous precedent.

                     

                    3. Scratch offs, whereas it stinks that the person lost 10 in a row, those are static, where timing and the amount of tickets bought could affect a particular winning sum since these are in fact pre-printed.

                     

                    This whole story sickens me. It could very well have been someone on the other end of the country that was in line at that exact moment that would have hit the RNG to prove the winning ticket, AND THEN - would have to be lucky enough for the Powerball drums to push out the exact 1 in a gazillion combinations to have you win that jackpot. This is so bogus it's not even funny.

                    I Agree!

                    This could be a shoutout to the winner by saying " Hey don't forget about me, the loser who allowed you to go ahead".
                    She should have kept her mouth shut.

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                      Posted: June 6, 2013, 7:08 pm - IP Logged

                      Last night on WGN-TV news (before the real person was known) they said that 6,721 people had already claimed to be the person that let the winner go ahead of them.

                      As for the winner gettig the winning ticket, Kurt Vonnegut would have simply said, "That moment in time was structured that way."

                      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

                      Lep

                      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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                        Posted: June 6, 2013, 7:14 pm - IP Logged

                        Last night on WGN-TV news (before the real person was known) they said that 6,721 people had already claimed to be the person that let the winner go ahead of them.

                        As for the winner gettig the winning ticket, Kurt Vonnegut would have simply said, "That moment in time was structured that way."

                        It's classic BS.No one knew about them until they decided to expose their stupidity on national television. You not the winner- get over it.
                        Did the press go looking for this " do gooder" or did they force themselves into the limelight?

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                          With the assumption that rng's at all terminals that seel PB are continuously outputting combinations,wouldn't it be safe to say that had the clerk hit the button  to print a QP a macro-second later,wouldn't that she would not have won to begin with.?

                           

                          I mean as far as RNG's's go,do number combinations hang in limbo in terminals till someone  wants a qp or is the terminal perpetually cycling combinations?

                          I'd like a definitive answer to that as well. We may know how a RNG generally operates, whether it is a software pseudo-random number generator(PRNG) or a hardware random number generator(RNG), taking into account system time, noise sources,  oscillators, etc. But does anyone actually know what the lottery terminal software actualy uses for quick picks? If it's a PRNG, is it seeded for every pick, or only periodically?

                          It would be great if a reporter would ask a lottery official point blank: would it have made a difference, would the other lady have gotten those same numbers or not? They may waffle, but at least ask the question. They seem to enjoy the buzz and uncertainty and additional media coverage from this secondary issue.

                          Keep in mind, their goal is not perfect randomness for quick picks. This is not for high speed Gigabit cryptography and high security. Its just generating a few digits every few seconds. We know they like rollovers, they count on it. So you could say poor number coverage and lots of overlap is in their best interests. So just for this fact, I reserve final judgement until a definitive answer is presented.

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                            Posted: June 6, 2013, 7:46 pm - IP Logged

                            She is not entitled to anything. Can you imagine the lawsuits this would generate as well for future winners? People claiming they were allegedly in line with the winner and let them cut ahead, or let them take a better parking space so they could get into the store sooner, etc. Random numbers are random.

                            I agree. How about the guy who cut her off while driving earlier that day? Every single event that took place before she bought the ticket plays a role. Does it mean that the guy who cut her off is entitled to a slice of her money? How about her neighbor that talked to her earlier that day? She delayed her arrival at Publix for several minutes or seconds at just the right time. How about those who already parked their cars at Publix before she arrived. Those people forced her to park at a different location, again delaying her arrival for several seconds at just the right time. Are these people entitled to anything?

                            What if I buy a winning scratch off ticket and win a million dollars? Does it mean that everybody who bought the ticket from the same roll before me is entitled to a share?

                            People are looking way too much into this thing. It is just pure coincidence that she won. It doesn't have any meaning.

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                              Posted: June 6, 2013, 7:55 pm - IP Logged

                              I Agree! Its the same type of story that made the timing just right for someone.

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