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Lottery tickets accidentally shipped to man's house

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Posted: December 9, 2013, 5:02 pm - IP Logged

This raises another big question how lazy could the lottery department be not to be able to have their own security van deliver all their lottery scratch off tickets. They go to all the stores always for broken down machines and pick up lots of cash. Trying to rely on ups seems like too risky at this time this is not the first time ups screwed up they delivered a machine gun to somebody else before what else should i expect in my mail somebodies big toe. But i think i figured it out this lottery department already know most of their scratch off are trash anyway so why bother delivering aha.Hiding Behind Computer

Do you  deliver all of your mail yourself, or do you just let the post office do it since they were going there anyway and it's cheaper?  I don't doubt that a lottery's annual UPS bill is substantial, but I expect it's still far, far cheaper than having a bunch of employees and a bunch of vans to deliver relatively modest packages of lottery tickets. Even if they thought it made sense to do their own deliveries, why would they have them done by the service technicians (who probably don't work for the lottery anyway)? They'd either neeed people to deliver them to the service technicians, or the technicians would be wasting enormous amounts of time going to pick up lottery tickets.

As for the cash, the merchants just put the money in the bank. They then use checks and wire transfers to pay their bills, including what they owe to the lottery.

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    Posted: December 9, 2013, 5:06 pm - IP Logged

    I understand what you're saying but I still had no clue that the store receiving the tickets has to "register" them.   Why would anybody know such a thing unless they owned a store?   I assumed lottery tickets were delivered like they deliver anything else at the store.   Like I said I don't play scratchoffs.

    Have you bought  a gift card in the last 10 to 15 years? Or at least seen them hanging by the hundreds in their tiny little packages in so many stores, where it would be so easy to just slip a few in your pocket? I'd think it should be pretty common knowledge by now that  virtually every piece of merchandise where the value is dependent on the unique identification of that specific item requires being scanned and activated. Gift cards for Best Buy, pre-paid phone cards, or lottery tickets, they're all just pieces of paper or plastic that depend on a central database to tell a merchant what their value is. That central database won't recognize them as having any value at all unless it shows that they were properly registered.

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      Posted: December 9, 2013, 5:29 pm - IP Logged

      Good for the guy in the story......how many would have opened the box and thought, "Hey Moe, it's a bonanza!"

      Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any.

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      There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

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        Posted: December 9, 2013, 5:56 pm - IP Logged

        Good for the guy in the story......how many would have opened the box and thought, "Hey Moe, it's a bonanza!"

        Actually the guy is not silly he already did figure it out he has a better luck with free publicity and reward than he would with scratching all thoes worthless tickets that even if he wins $10,000,000 that will get him more likely arested for peti theft. lol so he is taking option B he called the press like the republicans trying to burst obama everyday same old game nothing new.Surrender

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          Posted: December 9, 2013, 8:17 pm - IP Logged

          I used to think this way too.  Lotterypost.com is great for teaching us all. Shocked

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            Posted: December 9, 2013, 8:29 pm - IP Logged

            Actually the guy is not silly he already did figure it out he has a better luck with free publicity and reward than he would with scratching all thoes worthless tickets that even if he wins $10,000,000 that will get him more likely arested for peti theft. lol so he is taking option B he called the press like the republicans trying to burst obama everyday same old game nothing new.Surrender

            Well, don't loose hope.  Certainly, if more than a few Republicans tried, justice would have been accomplished by now and this bankrupter, etc. of the U. S. of A. would be imprisoned.

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              Posted: December 9, 2013, 9:40 pm - IP Logged

              Nice to read a story about folks with integrity.

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                Posted: December 10, 2013, 12:44 am - IP Logged

                I understand what you're saying but I still had no clue that the store receiving the tickets has to "register" them.   Why would anybody know such a thing unless they owned a store?   I assumed lottery tickets were delivered like they deliver anything else at the store.   Like I said I don't play scratchoffs.

                I guess im just curious, i watched them unpack some new rolls of scratch offs, and scan the 1st and last into the computer, telling it thay are in store and for sale.  when someone buys a strip of  say 10 tickets, they scan the 1st and last , and the system knows that all 10 have been sold at that time, must be an option on screen.

                 

                I asked abot it, and the clerk said they must register all tickets when they arrive. so lottoeries know where the hell they are.  as some one else pointed ouy

                UPS delivery what a joke. someone at lotteries  needs a slap

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                  Posted: December 10, 2013, 2:38 pm - IP Logged

                  Do you  deliver all of your mail yourself, or do you just let the post office do it since they were going there anyway and it's cheaper?  I don't doubt that a lottery's annual UPS bill is substantial, but I expect it's still far, far cheaper than having a bunch of employees and a bunch of vans to deliver relatively modest packages of lottery tickets. Even if they thought it made sense to do their own deliveries, why would they have them done by the service technicians (who probably don't work for the lottery anyway)? They'd either neeed people to deliver them to the service technicians, or the technicians would be wasting enormous amounts of time going to pick up lottery tickets.

                  As for the cash, the merchants just put the money in the bank. They then use checks and wire transfers to pay their bills, including what they owe to the lottery.

                  I like your point by saying they are going that way already but the truth is that they first go the opposit way most of the time and that is where your mail packages get f..ked up. And as to delivering it cheaper well you be lucky to receive any package or even the right package first . Anything in life cheaper ends up costing you more money just like women when ever i hear the word am free or cheap that is when i actually get a head start runing the opposit direction.Hyper

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                    Posted: December 11, 2013, 9:07 pm - IP Logged

                    What are you talking about? They check the ticket which cannot be faked, but I have never seen them scan a ticket before handing it to someone and if they did they wouldn't need to ask the things you state cause they would have that info already. There might be some questions asked, but unless they suspect something they aren't going to do half of what you say. Red flags are when store employees win, a case like that happen locally here. Unless you know for a fact all the procedures just don't say anything, spreading bad info or what YOU believe to be true is just wrong. For the record, most people would have assumed the tickets were good as we expect the handling of said tickets were held to strict rules and regulations. I would have been more worried about the tracking info and the fact that if I did use them, which I would not have, the serial number would be logged as missing stock. So there, another reasonably smart person counters your derision. Put the tin foil hat down, they don't work anyhow.

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                      Posted: December 12, 2013, 1:44 pm - IP Logged

                      Honesty is the best policy.  Good thing he turned them in.

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                        Posted: December 12, 2013, 3:58 pm - IP Logged

                        What are you talking about? They check the ticket which cannot be faked, but I have never seen them scan a ticket before handing it to someone and if they did they wouldn't need to ask the things you state cause they would have that info already. There might be some questions asked, but unless they suspect something they aren't going to do half of what you say. Red flags are when store employees win, a case like that happen locally here. Unless you know for a fact all the procedures just don't say anything, spreading bad info or what YOU believe to be true is just wrong. For the record, most people would have assumed the tickets were good as we expect the handling of said tickets were held to strict rules and regulations. I would have been more worried about the tracking info and the fact that if I did use them, which I would not have, the serial number would be logged as missing stock. So there, another reasonably smart person counters your derision. Put the tin foil hat down, they don't work anyhow.

                        i think this is in response to me?   i should explain further. there are 2 bar codes on tickets sold here. one is the ticket identifier, the other is a prize identifier. the prize one is under the latex scratch off stuff. you have to assume there is no info on the ticket identifier  code that people could use for  working out if it is  a winner. you would have to sell the ticket, then scan the prize identifier t claim the prize. that involves scratching off the latex.

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                        keno historic = -2291 ; 2015= -603; 2016= JAN=-32, FEB= +12 , MAR= -86, APR = -77. MAY= -48, JUN= -29, JUL=-71; AUG = -52; SEPT= -43; OCT = +56 NOV = -33 TOT= -3297

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                          I used to think this way too.  Lotterypost.com is great for teaching us all. Shocked

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