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Dozens of 'dead people' collected NJ lottery prizes last year

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Posted: February 20, 2015, 5:05 am - IP Logged
  1. Multi-million dollar lottery winners instantly become targets by criminals, scam artists, and thieves. If they win a large enough Mega Millions jackpot, it can seem as if the entire country has placed a target on their backs.

We all get a lot out of lotteries!

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    1. Multi-million dollar lottery winners instantly become targets by criminals, scam artists, and thieves. If they win a large enough Mega Millions jackpot, it can seem as if the entire country has placed a target on their backs.

    That's why there needs to anonymity if you win big in the lottery.  States claim "there has to be transparency, to prevent lottery scams".  But, by the looks of things in Jersey, transparency means nothing as their lottery was scammed tons of times.  And, if they win big, the lottery commission creates problems for the winners by their attempts to promote & publicize their winnings.  Yes, there needs to be anonymity if you win big, despite what the lottery commission says...

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      Posted: February 20, 2015, 7:29 am - IP Logged

       It seems to me that some retailers by their own tickets and we come in the store to buy instant tickets the numbers are very low why is this

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        Posted: February 20, 2015, 7:47 am - IP Logged

        "Anything can happen in NJ" is  the current marketing  theme of the NJ Lottery Commission.

        The message  between the lines is that they are looking out for all those winners of $600.00 prizes.

        "The dead shall rise"  has a new meaning in N.J.

         

        Thinking of...

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          Posted: February 20, 2015, 7:56 am - IP Logged

          Simply put, NJ Lottery dropped the ball. They can try to shift the blame all they want. Yeah right, blame it on the Zombies.

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            Posted: February 20, 2015, 10:59 am - IP Logged

            The only thing I'm sick about in this article is PA is picking up another game.

            Odds of 1 in 21 million? Keep it.

            Manage what you have PA and stop showering us with favors which, btw, aren't for us, they're

            for you.

            This business of inadequate job performance is so typical in state after state. They are masters at

            launching new games and keeping up with the Jones's but when it comes to taking care of their

            own, the fail miserably. Do you think they care about back child support much? There are kids that

            are cold, hungry and in need due to deadbeat parents. The lottery has its guns holstered in the fight

            against what the real crime is but is the fastest gunslinger when it comes to being able to offer the

            players games other states have going.

            No such thing as shame here, even when presented with the stats, one excuse is: 'That's a very small

            number'. 680 of 48,000 is 680 too much. NJ should have their lottery yanked until they get serious

            about a few things. That would fix things in a hurry...ain't going to happen though.

            Oh and did anyone else think that over the course of a year that 48,000 prizes over $600 was pitiful?

            I assume that's all games..online and instants??? PA prints instants in the 6 - 7 million ticket range for

            EACH game...and we have a WHOLE LOTTA GAMES going just in latex alone.

            So, how do you let the sand out of the heel here? I wish someone would get serious and stop passing the

            buck all the time.

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              Posted: February 20, 2015, 11:32 am - IP Logged

              This doesn't surprise me .Well they said you are more likely to be struck by lightening than win the lottery but nobody has actually calculated the odds for dead people to win . As we can see here dead people have better odds than living people because lightening can't kill them or already did lol. But it takes two to tangle so if half dozen  dead people now play and win it means probably some half dozen dead people are now working in the lottery department too. No No

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                Posted: February 20, 2015, 11:38 am - IP Logged

                Good Joke Cointoss! Loved it!

                 

                Maybe it took the lottery that long to mail out the winnings that the person had done up and left this world? 

                Besides, there is no national(country)  restriction on who can claim a prize whether they have a US social # or not, so that does need to be factor'd into the claims/audit.

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                  Posted: February 20, 2015, 12:15 pm - IP Logged

                  AND

                  They voted early and often LOL

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                    Posted: February 20, 2015, 2:11 pm - IP Logged

                    You might want to read the article, which clearly says that it happens with prizes of $600 or more.

                    In NJ, and most other states, anything over $600 has to be claimed at a lottery office. It shouldn't be that hard for a state agency to make sure that a winner is correctly identified, in which case an incorrect social security number won't be a big problem. When they find out the withholdings were credited to the wrong person, they should know the identity of the person who gave them the wrong number. Most states withhold the maximum tax, and federal withholdings will be 30%. In the majority of cases they'll already have what the person owes in taxes. For issues with  child support or public assistance, it goes back to having a correct ID, even is the SS# isn't correct.

                    KY Floyd, this article failed to mention that all prizes at $600 or above MUST be claimed [and taxed] at an official NJ Lottery Headquarters' remote office or corporate location.

                    Having several millions of dollars in my financial accounts means receiving several valuable services each day!

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                      Posted: February 20, 2015, 2:40 pm - IP Logged

                      "represents a very small portion of all claims"

                      Translation: we can't be bothered to fix this.

                      There will always be people who game the system no matter what.

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                        Posted: February 20, 2015, 10:45 pm - IP Logged

                        You might want to read the article, which clearly says that it happens with prizes of $600 or more.

                        In NJ, and most other states, anything over $600 has to be claimed at a lottery office. It shouldn't be that hard for a state agency to make sure that a winner is correctly identified, in which case an incorrect social security number won't be a big problem. When they find out the withholdings were credited to the wrong person, they should know the identity of the person who gave them the wrong number. Most states withhold the maximum tax, and federal withholdings will be 30%. In the majority of cases they'll already have what the person owes in taxes. For issues with  child support or public assistance, it goes back to having a correct ID, even is the SS# isn't correct.

                        If your prize is over $599.50, you can claim it at your New Jersey Lottery Retailer or at New Jersey Lottery Headquarters. 

                        I never won over $599.50 in NJ so I don't know if they pay cash on the spot for tickets over that and under $5000, but I was paid the same day in cash in Michigan, Ohio, PA, WVA, and KY. The people using phoney SS numbers probably have a fake picture ID to go along with it and probably easier to fool the people at lottery headquarters than a savvy clerk.

                        "Most states withhold the maximum tax, and federal withholdings will be 30%. In the majority of cases they'll already have what the person owes in taxes."

                        Which state withholds Federal or state taxes on prizes under $5000?


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                          Posted: February 20, 2015, 10:50 pm - IP Logged

                          Agreed.  I wonder how prevalent this issue is in other states.

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                            Posted: February 21, 2015, 12:51 am - IP Logged

                            Agreed.  I wonder how prevalent this issue is in other states.

                            Carole Hedinger, executive director of the state lottery, responded to the audit noting that the 680 suspicious Social Security numbers "represents a very small portion of all claims," and the auditor was "unable to substantiate whether these 680 'questionable' Social Security numbers were indeed fraudulent."

                            Apparently it's not that prevalent in NJ.

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                              Posted: February 21, 2015, 4:40 am - IP Logged

                              Must be the same people who voted for Obama!