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Judge: Wyoming Lottery lawsuit against man can continue

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Posted: October 23, 2015, 10:20 pm - IP Logged

I wonder what the guy's username is here on LP!

ummm... gulp... yea, me too, gulp, errr... yep sure do, I wonder myself who he is... HE, I didn't mean to say he,gulp... it could be a she to... of course it can... he or she.  I wonder who he or she is here on the ole' lottery post... Sure do wonder....

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  I'm feeling a jackpot win coming my way!

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    Franklin-n.c
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    Posted: October 24, 2015, 3:13 am - IP Logged

    This guy needs to get a life and go away

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      Posted: October 24, 2015, 3:54 am - IP Logged

      "in order to sell tickets to the multistate Powerball and Mega Millions lotteries, the Wyoming lottery must be in good standing ..."

      So what's the problem? They think that MUSL and the Association of State and Provincial Lotteries are going to toss them out because one guy complains about them? If they only get complaints from one or two people about each state then the people who aren't happy with some aspect of their state's lottery must not know how to write letters or send emails.

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        Posted: October 24, 2015, 1:09 pm - IP Logged

        As a supporter of lotteries, I believe people should have the right to criticize lotteries if they wish. I don't know the exact details, but it's not a good look for the lottery.

        I would agree with you had his criticism made any sense. His issue is not with the lotteries but with those who have a gambling addiction. That cannot be the responsibility of the lotteries or any other gambling business.

        If he's concerned about those who cannot curb their gambling habits, then his energy should be put into getting help for the people who need it, in a practical and constructive way. Like say publicizing Gamblers Anonymous.

        What he's doing is counterproductive and would be like me saying I'm addicted to chocolate so I'll smear Hershey's reputation because they won't help me stop eating their product.

        I might wake up early and go running.  I might also wake up and win the lottery.

        The odds are about the same.

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          Posted: October 24, 2015, 2:02 pm - IP Logged

          I would agree with you had his criticism made any sense. His issue is not with the lotteries but with those who have a gambling addiction. That cannot be the responsibility of the lotteries or any other gambling business.

          If he's concerned about those who cannot curb their gambling habits, then his energy should be put into getting help for the people who need it, in a practical and constructive way. Like say publicizing Gamblers Anonymous.

          What he's doing is counterproductive and would be like me saying I'm addicted to chocolate so I'll smear Hershey's reputation because they won't help me stop eating their product.

          What you have overlooked is the other additives that Hershey has put in their chocolate to make it more addictive than it is on its own!

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            Posted: October 24, 2015, 4:31 pm - IP Logged

            Where is the documentation , ? I believe the judge is requesting this from the public entity. Burden of proof, again, remains with the plaintiff to produce. 

            Tobacco has warning labels. Alcohol as well. Gambling needs a warning established as well. Our casino's have. them, as does our lottery. No harm in asking this for the wyoming lottery. 

            Its an odd way to get attention, yet the Plaintiff is gambling that the judge will favor a cash cow. I don't see this fairing well for the lottery.

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              Posted: October 24, 2015, 9:01 pm - IP Logged

              As a supporter of lotteries, I believe people should have the right to criticize lotteries if they wish. I don't know the exact details, but it's not a good look for the lottery.

              "I don't know the exact details, "

              It's simple, "Edward Atchison had written to national groups and Wyoming newspapers saying the lottery needs to do more to address problem gambling". Apparently he believes players will become problem gamblers by playing MM, PB, the low payoff $5 a ticket Cowboy Draw, and probably premium bonds too.

              And the Wyoming Lottery seems very paranoid about criticism.

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                Posted: October 25, 2015, 1:49 am - IP Logged

                If i were the Judge i would tell him it's only problem gambling when your losing then when he says no way i would say Wanna bet.

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                  Posted: October 25, 2015, 2:15 am - IP Logged

                  I have a real problem with this one.  On the one hand, this man seems like a anti gambling  zealot who wants to "warn of problem gambling" and that to me is often someone making a moral judgment about the lottery or any form of legalized gambling.  These folks ignore all the good that comes from lotteries..not just the winners, but in terms of jobs and the proceeds used for education, infrastructure or whatever.

                  On the other hand, this is a free speech issue.  You will always have people critical and praising anything, but to get sued for "interference with contract"or financial relations...oh come now.  Even if the guy reported the Wyoming lottery to regulatory agencies, I assume they would investigate and if it was nonsense would say so.  So I think the greater danger is to our Constitution, so even though I do not like these cry baby sorts about the evils of gambling, free speech would win every time for me.  Unless the guy is outright falsifying claims, the judge should throw it out.  Wyoming should get a thicker skin, if they are following the rules...hopefully these agencies will say so.

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                    Posted: October 25, 2015, 2:18 am - IP Logged

                    If i were the Judge i would tell him it's only problem gambling when your losing then when he says no way i would say Wanna bet.

                    So glad I saw your posting.  I have never heard that one before.  That was HILARIOUS!!!!  I have heard "I do not have a gambling problem...until I run out of money to gamble with"  BRAVO...you made me howl...I AM STILL LAUGHING....

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                      Posted: October 26, 2015, 11:11 am - IP Logged

                      Who the heck does this guy think he is, waste of tax payers for court room with no case. What a fool, if lawyers are involved he will pay more in fees than buying tickets in the first place... 15 minute media seeking bumb.

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                        Posted: October 26, 2015, 3:26 pm - IP Logged

                        "Who the heck does this guy think he is"

                        I'm pretty sure he thinks he's the defendant. You know, the guy that's being sued, not the guy who's suing.

                        "I don't know the exact details"

                        If only there was some way to find more information about it.  You know, a place where you could ask questions and find out where the answers might be. Maybe some kind of collection if pipes or something  like that.

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                          Posted: October 26, 2015, 7:00 pm - IP Logged

                          oh, I thought it was the other way around lol

                          misleading title

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                            Posted: October 27, 2015, 5:44 am - IP Logged

                            How can the lottery prove this man caused a drop in sales?

                            If he doesn't like lotteries that's his problem-don't play.  Seems he has a deeper motive--to get rid of the lottery.  Anyone with a gambling problem can contact Gamblers Anonymous on his/her own.

                            The lottery should not have followed up this foolishness.