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Posted: November 7, 2015, 7:49 pm - IP Logged

I cannot feel sorry anymore for stupidity. If you are too stupid and too greedy to see your way past people than i do not know what to say anymore. There has been enough news reports, enough said on tv shows and newspapers, enough said on shows like 60 minutes, 20/20 and dateline, it has been reported on Dr. Phil, Oprah and Phil Donahue and Merv Griffith, it has been on all local news stations and radio stations and unless you live under a rock or in a card board box you are too stupid to be alive in this day and age. Yes it is harsh but you cannot go through life always being a victim. 

People this is not a time to trust anyone not even family anymore. Greedy as overtaken ethics and morality and it is time to say go away. I do not even give money to organizations because they spend it more on salaries than helping people, I do not give it to pan handlers because they want drugs or alcohol, if I am going to do something nice i go into a grocery store and pay for someone's food cart. But even than if I see something in the cart like beer or cigarettes or junk food I do not pay. I watch what I do with my hard earned money and being stupid is not one of them. People need to grow up and act responsible instead of acting irresponsible.

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    I cannot feel sorry anymore for stupidity. If you are too stupid and too greedy to see your way past people than i do not know what to say anymore. There has been enough news reports, enough said on tv shows and newspapers, enough said on shows like 60 minutes, 20/20 and dateline, it has been reported on Dr. Phil, Oprah and Phil Donahue and Merv Griffith, it has been on all local news stations and radio stations and unless you live under a rock or in a card board box you are too stupid to be alive in this day and age. Yes it is harsh but you cannot go through life always being a victim. 

    People this is not a time to trust anyone not even family anymore. Greedy as overtaken ethics and morality and it is time to say go away. I do not even give money to organizations because they spend it more on salaries than helping people, I do not give it to pan handlers because they want drugs or alcohol, if I am going to do something nice i go into a grocery store and pay for someone's food cart. But even than if I see something in the cart like beer or cigarettes or junk food I do not pay. I watch what I do with my hard earned money and being stupid is not one of them. People need to grow up and act responsible instead of acting irresponsible.

    Would I give money to this person because he was duped.  No.  Did he make a huge misjudgement/mistake.  Yes.  You mention morality, which involves society values.  I can't believe members of our LP family are so quick to malign someone because they did something that many find "stupid", though I prefer the term lacking common sense.  I agree with acting responsible and one accepting they erred in judgement, even if greed was a motive, but should they be stoned for their mistake?

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      Posted: November 7, 2015, 8:35 pm - IP Logged

      This scam is at least 2000 years old.

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        Posted: November 7, 2015, 10:54 pm - IP Logged

        This scam is at least 2000 years old.

        You gave your life savings to a perfect stranger you just met earlier that day. What in the world were you thinking?Thud

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          Posted: November 7, 2015, 11:26 pm - IP Logged

          I suppose it's easier when speaking with scammers, but some of the emails look real, especially to the more gullible players.

          Congratulations
          This is to inform you that your E-mail address has been selected as one of our annual online Mega Millions Lottery winner.
          Our regional Representative are pleased to inform you of the result of our annual Electronic Email Address ballot system of
          Mega Millions International Lottery Promotion held in Asia 2015


          Winner RefNo: Mega2015RBAASIA101

          Your email was selected among the winners of $1,000,000.00USD of the Mega Millions Lottery Organization. For more details on how to redeem your prize, contact our coordinator on the Email address below with your information.

          Fullname:
          Address:
          Phone:
          Fax:
          Email:


          Coordinator: Clement Cole
          Mega Millions Lottery
          Organization Email: clement_cole@aol.com

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            Posted: November 8, 2015, 12:05 am - IP Logged

            Would I give money to this person because he was duped.  No.  Did he make a huge misjudgement/mistake.  Yes.  You mention morality, which involves society values.  I can't believe members of our LP family are so quick to malign someone because they did something that many find "stupid", though I prefer the term lacking common sense.  I agree with acting responsible and one accepting they erred in judgement, even if greed was a motive, but should they be stoned for their mistake?

            Should they be stoned for their mistake?

            Hell, if that's the kind of weed available, "I'll have what he's having."

            But seriously, Teddi stated it well - just by bringing these two thieves to his house was a potentially fatal mistake.  He's lucky that they only took his money.  And, yeah, what's with the 32G sitting around in the change jar at the house?

            As Bugs Bunny would say, "What an ultra maroon."

            But you are also correct in stating that he is still a victim nonetheless.  But he's still an ultra maroon.

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              Posted: November 8, 2015, 3:35 am - IP Logged

              I just can't find it in my heart to feel sorry for this guy, he wasn't doing this out of the goodness of his heart, he did this because he was greedy.  Had he been told the con wanted to borrow his $32,000 and he would return it ( $32,000 ) after he cashed his ticket, would he have been so helpful, no.

              It was I'll give you $8,000 in the time it takes for con to cash his lottery in. Fast $8,000. Well now you know, you can't get something for nothing. How many years did it take you to save $32,000, because of your greed and fast money, you lost it in a day? No Pity!

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                Posted: November 8, 2015, 3:54 am - IP Logged

                I suppose it's easier when speaking with scammers, but some of the emails look real, especially to the more gullible players.

                Congratulations
                This is to inform you that your E-mail address has been selected as one of our annual online Mega Millions Lottery winner.
                Our regional Representative are pleased to inform you of the result of our annual Electronic Email Address ballot system of
                Mega Millions International Lottery Promotion held in Asia 2015


                Winner RefNo: Mega2015RBAASIA101

                Your email was selected among the winners of $1,000,000.00USD of the Mega Millions Lottery Organization. For more details on how to redeem your prize, contact our coordinator on the Email address below with your information.

                Fullname:
                Address:
                Phone:
                Fax:
                Email:


                Coordinator: Clement Cole
                Mega Millions Lottery
                Organization Email: clement_cole@aol.com

                Look, if I didn't buy a ticket, then it's a scam. How would these people get your Email to put it in a lottery? Look up at the address box in your email, does it say BCC, then that tells me there are unknown number of people getting this same email saying you won a 100 million dollars. Use that brain of your to save yourself. Mega Million start at 15 million dollars I think, it sure ain't 1 million. Any scammer getting my hard earned money will have to pry it out of my cold dead hand.   Thud

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                  Posted: November 8, 2015, 11:52 am - IP Logged

                  sorry ... but usally i  feel bad for people who get victimized but this guy was just a flat out idiot , so much so im having a hard time even believing itactually happened

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                    Posted: November 8, 2015, 12:02 pm - IP Logged

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                      Posted: November 8, 2015, 1:06 pm - IP Logged

                      "the man approached the victim, saying he had a winning lottery ticket and needed $40,000 to collect the total winnings." That's when I would have gone the other way muttering "scam, scam, scam" as I got away from him.

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                        I have been wondering, how long it will take, before a forward thinking criminally inclined individual, will exploit this phenomenon of undocumented immigrants with "winning lottery ticket{s}" looking for somebody to help{exploit} them cash the "winning ticket{s}". First and foremost, this moron is not a true christian. He saw an opportunity to exploit somebody that "had no papers, don't speak english" and most likely in his mind gullible and afraid of being deported. His greed propelled him to risk his life just for a few grands. In this case common sense was put on the shelf while greed and stupidity took control of his faculties. This individual is neither a christian nor a victim and his actions spoke loud and clear. Like I said before, he is lucky that his stupid greedy ass did not get decapitated. Now the guy who tried to victimize an "undocumented immigrant" is trying to portray himself as the victim. PURE BULL CRAP  Agree with stupid.

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                          I have been wondering, how long it will take, before a forward thinking criminally inclined individual, will exploit this phenomenon of undocumented immigrants with "winning lottery ticket{s}" looking for somebody to help{exploit} them cash the "winning ticket{s}". First and foremost, this moron is not a true christian. He saw an opportunity to exploit somebody that "had no papers, don't speak english" and most likely in his mind gullible and afraid of being deported. His greed propelled him to risk his life just for a few grands. In this case common sense was put on the shelf while greed and stupidity took control of his faculties. This individual is neither a christian nor a victim and his actions spoke loud and clear. Like I said before, he is lucky that his stupid greedy ass did not get decapitated. Now the guy who tried to victimize an "undocumented immigrant" is trying to portray himself as the victim. PURE BULL CRAP  Agree with stupid.

                          What concerns me now is the scammer(s) now where he lives and that he had a wad of cash in the house.  would not be surprised if they return demanding more.  He may end up in concrete like that other Florida lottery winner did...scary.

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                            Posted: November 8, 2015, 3:18 pm - IP Logged

                            "the man approached the victim, saying he had a winning lottery ticket and needed $40,000 to collect the total winnings." That's when I would have gone the other way muttering "scam, scam, scam" as I got away from him.

                            Good approach, or how about "Yes I do have $40,000 from an inheritance but it is tied up with the attorney.  I need $7,999 to pay the attorney fees so I can get the money released.  If we take the money we have, the $8,000, it's just enough for me to wire to the attorney and then I'll be able to give the full amount.  How does that sound?". 

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                              What concerns me now is the scammer(s) now where he lives and that he had a wad of cash in the house.  would not be surprised if they return demanding more.  He may end up in concrete like that other Florida lottery winner did...scary.

                              The scammers know where he lives & that he had a stash of money at his home  because this Greedy Idiot told them so.Mr Shakespeare  had the mental capacity of a child,  l have no idea about this guy but he sure is not the brightest crayon in the box. You right,  he could have ended up dead or tortured into telling them where the " rest of his stash was". Can you imagine telling these guys to take a seat in the living room while he goes into the bedroom and gets the cash? They probably did a mental inventory of his furniture etc with hopes of making a follow up visit. 

                              Mr Moneybags said that this guy who conned him " sounded desperate"....you think? All that this story has done is highlighted this person to be an Imbecile. Todd was right, had this person or others been readers of LP on a regular basis- they would have seen a con coming from a thousand yards away.

                              ** Moral of the Story: By all means do business at Home Depot,  hand your money over to the store clerk for items you purchased-  Not some stranger who approaches you with a " winning lottery ticket" hoping to make you a Millionaire. Tell them to go to the nearest Bank where there is lots of cash on hand & strike up a deal with them.

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