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Man in Iraq wins $6.4 million Oregon Lottery jackpot

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Nikkicute's avatar - nnjx1k
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Posted: December 12, 2015, 11:22 pm - IP Logged

The number of winners who have been harmed, besides being a tiny fraction of winners, is only part of the story. Maybe sully is being deliberately misleading, or perhaps she's just not able to understand the complete story, but most victims are their own worst enemies. That's especially true of her list.

The first couple hadn't presented the ticket to the lottery, so it's very obvious to anyone with a room temperature IQ that the lottery's policies on anonymity had nothing to do with it. Then there's the limited "evidence" that it was related to the lottery at all. The cops believe the house was connected to the drug market. If they believe that it's entirely possible hat the  killers believed it, even if it's not true. Either way, the couple apparently made it well know that they won the lottery. Arthur Neal's story is about the same, minus the drug angle. The family says he  won the lottery, but he never claimed a prize. The family says his house was ransacked, but the police said "the house didn’t look like it had been ransacked.” In both cases the family claims the murders were a result of winning the lottery, but there's no proof that any of them actually won. What is absolutely certain is that there were no press conferences, so having their names released by the lottery very clearly wasn't a factor.

Khan almost certainly was killed for his lottery winnings. He was poisoned with cyanide just hours after the press conference. His wife reportedly tried to cash the check within the next few days. The money, along with the rest of his estate, went to his wife and daughter.

Shakespeare is the only one who was clearly targeted by a stranger. Shakespeare gave his convicted killer legal authority over at least some of his money. The murder was apparently an attempt to cover her theft.

The only other one I know of off the top of my head is  William "Bud" Post. Somebody tried to have him killed, but was unsuccessful. That person was his brother.

So instead of "countless" winners turning up dead we've got 5 (I'll assume sully can count that high), only two of which were definitely lottery winners, plus one guy who somebody tried to kill. Of those 5 only one can possibly be because the lottery didn't let them remain anonymous.  That's not a real danger. It's a tiny risk that disproportionately effects those who are ignorant, uneducated, or stupid. The people who post here routinely claim that they're capable of successfully managing a lottery win, so where's the problem?

I was thinking of Jackpot winners since that's what this thread is about.

"Jeffrey Dampier Jr. (March 24, 1966 – July 26, 2005) was the winner of an Illinois Lottery jackpot worth US $20 million in 1996. He was murdered by his sister-in-law and her boyfriend in 2005"

I counted Jeffery, Khan and Abraham off the top of my head as three Jackpot winners who were killed.

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    You did say "countless" so it's too many to be counted. Does "countless" mean counted on one hand to you?

    I showed more, I could do research all day.

    We both know your 's, ky's, and b2b petty attacks are payback  about Ridge.

    You are all smart enough to know, lottery winners are targets.

    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

    For a lead role in a cage?

     

                                                From Pink Floyd's " Wish you were here"

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      Posted: December 13, 2015, 8:15 am - IP Logged

      I'm pretty sure you're much smarter than sully, but you've still got a narrow and incomplete understanding of what bigotry means. Even so, that limited definition doesn't change anything. The response of some posters isn't simply because he's Iraqi, but because they're making assumptions about his opinions based on his being Iraqi.

      As for my post, the fact that somebody recognizes bigotry doesn't mean they're a bigot themselves. That said, I guess I too am a bigot, since I have some level of intolerance for the views of those who actually are  terrorists. Even when they're US citizens.

      It's humorous that you believe the definition of bigotry can be changed to suit your whims.  But it's sad that you believe you can measure how "smart" people here are.  That attitude betrays your snobbish and elitist character.  People who think they are better than others are typically overcompensating for their own weaknesses.

      You would be much better off if you would debate ideas rather than feeling the need to try to hurt other people by personally attacking them.

       

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        The LOtter only allows customers to buy if they ARE NOT from the USA.  If you try to register from the states you will not able to get pass log in.   I don't know why Lottery Post even put their banner to support them if it's only for foreigners and not for disable citizens or someone who want the internet convenience - sounds very fishy to me.  If someone from Iraq could buy a ticket online, I feel I should have that right to purchase tickets online and have the same opportunity as a customers like all the customers from the foreign countries especially since I am from this country!  LOTTER --- SOME KIND OF FOREIGN MONEY LAUNDERING BUSINESS- VERY VERY VERY FISHY !!!  I'm not a hater but I think business both online or offline  should expand the same rights to all customers.  I hope someone will start a petition to ban them.  If other countries citizens can buy from the US, we should be able to buy from them as well  wouldn't you think?

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          The LOtter only allows customers to buy if they ARE NOT from the USA.  If you try to register from the states you will not able to get pass log in.   I don't know why Lottery Post even put their banner to support them if it's only for foreigners and not for disable citizens or someone who want the internet convenience - sounds very fishy to me.  If someone from Iraq could buy a ticket online, I feel I should have that right to purchase tickets online and have the same opportunity as a customers like all the customers from the foreign countries especially since I am from this country!  LOTTER --- SOME KIND OF FOREIGN MONEY LAUNDERING BUSINESS- VERY VERY VERY FISHY !!!  I'm not a hater but I think business both online or offline  should expand the same rights to all customers.  I hope someone will start a petition to ban them.  If other countries citizens can buy from the US, we should be able to buy from them as well  wouldn't you think?

          You are very far off the mark.

          US law forbids the sale of lottery tickets over the Internet, some states like Illinois allow it. TheLotter does not sell lottery ticets, what you pay for is money for a ticket + a purchase fee for somebody to actually go to a store in the US and buy a physical ticket. If you want to be able to play directly over the internet you should take it up with your politicians.

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            The LOtter only allows customers to buy if they ARE NOT from the USA.  If you try to register from the states you will not able to get pass log in.   I don't know why Lottery Post even put their banner to support them if it's only for foreigners and not for disable citizens or someone who want the internet convenience - sounds very fishy to me.  If someone from Iraq could buy a ticket online, I feel I should have that right to purchase tickets online and have the same opportunity as a customers like all the customers from the foreign countries especially since I am from this country!  LOTTER --- SOME KIND OF FOREIGN MONEY LAUNDERING BUSINESS- VERY VERY VERY FISHY !!!  I'm not a hater but I think business both online or offline  should expand the same rights to all customers.  I hope someone will start a petition to ban them.  If other countries citizens can buy from the US, we should be able to buy from them as well  wouldn't you think?

            ALWAYS CHECK YOUR FACTS BEFORE POSTING. The info you posted is absolutely misleading{very wrong}. You can join theLotter in less than a few minutes depending on how fast you can type. People in the USA used to be able to play with their credit cards, but the politicians with the help of the banks, managed to screw it up. Right now if you want to play, you have to use bank transfers to send money.............theLotter. I can post the INSTRUCTIONS here but it might get zapped by Admin. If you are in the USA and you can execute bank transfers from YOUR BANK, to........theLotter, copies of your ticket will be in your inbox soon if you purchase the tickets of your choice, played anywhere in the world. It's that simple. YOU CAN DO IT TOO.  Yes Nod

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              Posted: December 13, 2015, 9:57 pm - IP Logged

              I showed more, I could do research all day.

              We both know your 's, ky's, and b2b petty attacks are payback  about Ridge.

              You are all smart enough to know, lottery winners are targets.

              You can pretend the word "countess" doesn't mean "an amount to large to count" all day, but that doesn't change the real meaning or the fact you said it.

              "We both know your 's, ky's, and b2b petty attacks are payback  about Ridge. "

              My pointing out you were exaggerating the number of murdered lottery jackpot winners by using the word "countless" was not meant (by me) to be a petty attack. If anything I was suggesting you were continuing to make a silly argument.

              I won't speak for the others, but apparently in the past you said something to me or about me and expected "paybacks".

              "You are all smart enough to know, lottery winners are targets. "

              As a "lottery winner" I was never a kidnapping or any other type of target and neither were three of the multi-million jackpot winners I personally know. Are you speaking as a lottery winner who was some type of a target or just exaggerating again?

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                You are very far off the mark.

                US law forbids the sale of lottery tickets over the Internet, some states like Illinois allow it. TheLotter does not sell lottery ticets, what you pay for is money for a ticket + a purchase fee for somebody to actually go to a store in the US and buy a physical ticket. If you want to be able to play directly over the internet you should take it up with your politicians.

                Currently state online ticket sales are restricted to state residence or players physically inside the state. The Mass Lottery offers up to yearly subscriptions for some of their games.

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                  ALWAYS CHECK YOUR FACTS BEFORE POSTING. The info you posted is absolutely misleading{very wrong}. You can join theLotter in less than a few minutes depending on how fast you can type. People in the USA used to be able to play with their credit cards, but the politicians with the help of the banks, managed to screw it up. Right now if you want to play, you have to use bank transfers to send money.............theLotter. I can post the INSTRUCTIONS here but it might get zapped by Admin. If you are in the USA and you can execute bank transfers from YOUR BANK, to........theLotter, copies of your ticket will be in your inbox soon if you purchase the tickets of your choice, played anywhere in the world. It's that simple. YOU CAN DO IT TOO.  Yes Nod

                  Really? whohoo!Hurray! Thanks for clearing that up!

                  I did ask that question about US players but no one answered so I deleted it.  I'm so glad USA players can play with TheLotter

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                    You can pretend the word "countess" doesn't mean "an amount to large to count" all day, but that doesn't change the real meaning or the fact you said it.

                    "We both know your 's, ky's, and b2b petty attacks are payback  about Ridge. "

                    My pointing out you were exaggerating the number of murdered lottery jackpot winners by using the word "countless" was not meant (by me) to be a petty attack. If anything I was suggesting you were continuing to make a silly argument.

                    I won't speak for the others, but apparently in the past you said something to me or about me and expected "paybacks".

                    "You are all smart enough to know, lottery winners are targets. "

                    As a "lottery winner" I was never a kidnapping or any other type of target and neither were three of the multi-million jackpot winners I personally know. Are you speaking as a lottery winner who was some type of a target or just exaggerating again?

                    Hey everybody, Stack is a huge lottery winner, has big connections.

                    Maybe if you bug him enough he will share his secret. Party

                    Did you exchange a walk on part in the war ?

                    For a lead role in a cage?

                     

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                      Posted: December 14, 2015, 10:01 am - IP Logged

                      I showed more, I could do research all day.

                      We both know your 's, ky's, and b2b petty attacks are payback  about Ridge.

                      You are all smart enough to know, lottery winners are targets.

                      We're still waiting for at least a link to a website showing where a "countless" number of jackpot winners were murdered.

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                        We're still waiting for at least a link to a website showing where a "countless" number of jackpot winners were murdered.

                        For those who play lottery games with odds of 1:275M almost anything is "countable". Wink

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                          For those who play lottery games with odds of 1:275M almost anything is "countable". Wink

                          People were murdered over lottery tickets and others destroyed themselves after winning a jackpot and most of them thought they were in the right place at the right time, but were really in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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                            I'm guessing he has friends or family in Oregon. Why would he play there instead of another state where the jackpots are larger.

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                              I'm guessing he has friends or family in Oregon. Why would he play there instead of another state where the jackpots are larger.

                              Haven't looked up the odds, maybe they are much better?

                              Or he was in Vegas and thought it was connected to the machines.

                               

                              Personally I would have chosen CAs Superlotto Plus, attractive odds, high jackpots, less attention than multistate MM & PB.