ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — A Florida man is being held without bond, accused of murdering his friend with an ax during a fight over lottery tickets.
"I was defending myself," suspect Joseph Robinson said after his initial court appearance.
The victim was identified as John Henry Stubbs, 69. The father of 11 was killed in what investigators said was a gruesome act involving an ax.
"It's a shock. We're still trying to cope with it and deal with the situation right now," said Michelle Johnson, the victim's niece.
Witnesses and family members told investigators that an altercation over scratch-off tickets and money led to the attack. The Orange County Sheriff's Office said Robinson attacked and killed the victim with an ax and then ran away.
"He got mad, ran and got the ax and hit him with it twice," said Chakia Gardner, Robinson's ex-girlfriend. "He snuck him. Yeah, he snuck him," said witness Annie Macon. There were multiple witnesses to the crime, like Macon, who helped investigators identify the suspect within a few hours.
"It's going to be in my mind forever. Never seen anything like that," Macon said. But for the victim's daughters, sadness turned to anger. "He better hope the police get him, I swear to God," one daughter said.
Robinson's criminal record shows a violent past filled with charges of battery and domestic disputes dating back to 2008. He is now accused of murder.
"It's disheartening, but justice will be served," Johnson said. Robinson is being held in the Orange County Jail without bond.
Let me guess...
Of course it is Florida.
VENOM where you from MS?
Maybe CT can add this story to his list of "fun things to do at the lotto line".
Only if someone axed for it.
When money and two unreasonable people come together the result is murder!
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/florida-man-accused-ax-murder-50-lottery-ticket-article-1.2596618
Interesting Video of the Suspect: http://nbc4i.com/2016/04/11/dispute-over-lottery-tickets-triggers-ax-murder/
This is the first ax murder over lottery money !!!
This is why people should be very careful who they socialize with!
There is nothing wrong with having less than five friends; a person doesn't need to pad their day with several acquaintances.
That's just crazy, what's wrong with people, RIP.
Yet another lottery/ murder story, didn't someone here say it really doesn't happen ? hmmmmm
Seems to me THERE ARE QUITE A FEW.
And what the heck is snucking someone?
Sad, but being Florida he may get away with it. Remember Casey Anthony and that Jackazz Zimmerman, zombies on the loose in that state?
Was it worth it?
What does that case have to do with this? Zimmerman and Casey, neither one was about the Lottery. This case is about 2 BLM'ers fighting over a stupid lottery ticket.
Looks like the suspect wanted to split the money.
thats one way to do it
I'd die laughing if it was over chump change
Looks like the suspect is not very good at kindling friendships.
Couple summers ago, guy un Detroit killed for eating the last chicken wing.
Split Wood with an Axe: Not Money!
He's just saying the stand your ground laws in Florida tend to let murderers walk period
As the Bible says, "The LOVE of money is the root of ALL EVIL."
Intelligent people understand that.
That's exactly what happened in the case of George Zimmerman.
Florida has a tradition of letting racist murderers walk.
More black men were lynched in Florida by Ku Klux Klansmen during the 19th and 20th centuries than in any other state in the union, and those murderers never had to worry about being arrested or taken to court.
So all black men are "BLM'ers" to you?
Typical RACIST Florida attitude....
Good point.
Thank you, that was my point exactly.
50 bucks??? Life is cheap in Florida.
The " Stand Your Ground" law is pretty SPECIFIC.One has to defend themselves " without retreating" if they feel their lives are threatened. According to Mr Robinson's ex gf, he ran away and RETURNED with an axe- that is not SYG, he may think so- the courts will decide whether it's cold blooded murder or self defense. Mr Robinson's is reaching in my opinion.
Racism isn't limited to one political party.
There are racist Republicans, just as there are racist Democrats.
For example, members of former Republican U.S President Richard Nixon's administration can be heard scheming to further oppress poor blacks on The Nixon Tapes.
For more information, google, "Nixon On Tape Expounds On Welfare And Homosexuality".
When David Duke: Former Grand Wizard of the Kkk was asked " who are you endorsing for President?" Those in attendance said he didn't even blink when he said..
As a pro black black man, I like Donald Trump.
The fact that David Duke supports him, means nothing to me.
Contrary to what some would assume, I didn't vote for Obama in either election.
Years ago I bought Donald Trump's book entitled, "The Art of the Deal."
All this over 50 dollars.
Sorry about the super big type font, that was my droid.
But whatever, for real? Nixon talking smack equated to lynching? The repubics weren't lynching anybody then, recently or now. The democrat party hands down has been hanging, aborting, keeping down people of color since the party formed until today. Hilldog has a Sanger award look that one up, or better yet let me save you the trouble:
https://www.truthorfiction.com/hillary-clinton-said-she-admires-margaret-sanger/
I liked your post. You appear to be an intelligent man. However, If I said I was a pro white white man, would that me a racist in your eyes?
If some punk ran up behind me and started beating my head against a concrete sidewalk and if I had a gun, I'd shoot him too. How is that murder?
Due to the context he was responding to, I feel it was a fair comment.
I personally don't like ANY of the candidates. I'm going to have to write-in Mickey Mouse... again.
NO! Only the ones from unwed mother and fatherless homes, that love to riot, burn and steal, like the ones in Baltimore, Ferguson, Watts in 60's and 80's. You know who they are. Just like this one,
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/k-12/high-school-disciplinary-problem-arrested-327958
you can pick them out, a mile away. Face the facts. I have Black friends, who are God fearing, honest, hard working, married doing the best they can to teach their kids, the right way to live. Unfortunately, the bad apples get all the publicity.
Now I know why you're alias starts with "dream". If it weren't for brave Americans who fought and died for this Country to enable people like you the PRIVILEGE TO SERIOUSLY VOTE...You'd be a freaking lampshade. Dream on and thank God you live here to post such garbage. Good luck with your lottery picks, I hope you lose every stinking penny you spend.
Sorry you took my humor a little too serious.
I will never tell ANYONE i won the JP.
Especially not MikeinTexas or EdessaKnight.
From the ratings they gave me on my thread, they might definately be wielding axes with my name on it.
They weren't "talking smack"...they were discussing how to cut welfare for poor, oppressed black people.
Not only was that similar to lynching...it was a form of genocide.
The reason those blacks were poor in the first place was because of 400 of years of racial injustice.
Being discriminated against, without welfare, many of them would have died.
Not if after saying you're a "pro white white man", you said you liked a black man that both whites and the media despise.
Apparently, you didn't hear the 911 tape.
Zimmerman was STALKING Trayvon Martin and making RACIST remarks, such as "They (blacks) always get away with it."
The 911 operator, sensing Zimmerman's lunacy, advised him to STOP following Trayvon and let the police handle it, but Zimmerman, eager to KILL a black man, IGNORED the 911 operator's suggestion and continued STALKING Trayvon so he could MURDER him.
The only difference between George Zimmerman and Mark David Chapman...the man who murdered John Lennon, is that Mark David Chapman lacked the racial element.
Both whites and the media despise? You joking? Don't you realize the media despise white people? Take a look at any major newspaper. Tell me I'm wrong. I can tell you a black man that conservatives loved and the liberal media despised....Clarence Thomas.
The fact that you associate black criminals with the Black Lives Matter movement, which has committed NO CRIMES, shows you're a RACIST.
Regardless of what you say, your racism is OBVIOUS to me.
Your associating black criminals with the Black Lives Matter movement, is the epitome of racism.
That's like saying, "Black criminals and BLM'ers"...they all look alike to me!"
My point was that I like Donald Trump even though many blacks and the media despise him.
I guess that would contradict my assertion of being "pro black".
The truth is, I want justice for black people, but I love ALL races...including white people.
That's why among other things, I support Southerners right to fly the Confederate flag.
Oh Tinkitty, you're full of dog poop.
Seen da artico'?
Dat is one hawd-lookin' brova.
d'Am!
but who dey say he keo?
A driver at my job hit a parked car. He misjudged the amount of space & backed straight into her vehicle. He acknowledged he was 100% at fault and apologized. It could have ended there.
But when he got back to the office and was reprimanded, his first line of defense was, "well she was black". Of all the excuses that could be used, "the owner of the parked car I hit was black, so..." is one I didn't see coming.
Now here we go again. Race being brought into a situation where it doesn't need to be. Seriously, how does BLM have any bearing here?
In all the threads about Bud Post, DLE, Jack Whittaker, Amanda Clayton, The Ficks, Evelyn Adams, Michael Carrol, Billie Bob, Victoria Zell, Lisa Arcand, Alex Toth etc., not once did I see anyone post that it must be a white thing. The consensus was that they were idiots. Period.
But the minute a negative story is about a non-white person, the situation miraculously transforms into an ethnicity issue, usually with the posters trotting out the fact that they have a Token BFF as proof that they're not racist.
What a novelty it would be if one day we all logged on & actually discussed the lottery without having anyone subjected to racial insults
Well this is going to be interesting since he is already screaming that he was defending himself.
Going to have to file this one away as 'buy your own tickets and keep your mouth'.
Not sure if it's reality or illusion but seems as if there are more lottery winners getting bumped off than before. Urooj, Burch and now this poor guy.
l think you looking for that elusive word " shut" Teddi.
OK, now you may wish to read about the following experiences I can relate, which involve myself, and other drivers around here:
It's longwinded, but it's made up of short stories, which I for one will never forget.
Just 2 days ago, I had to back up my vehicle. It's a good thing I look everywhere I go, because if I missed this opportunity,
I'd've hit the person who ended up behind me. Now, I don't make a single move in traffic unless I can see
where I'm going. I was backing up, to where I looked and saw it was clear. I wanted to proceed. Something in my
slow brain made me decide to look back once more. There was a "lady" of another race. I stopped. I let her go.
Now, I ask you, given that story, does it really sound like the white man would have truly been at fault if he had hit her car?
OR, DOES THIS SOUND LIKE SOMEONE WHO'S STOPPED RIGHT BEHIND ME, WAITING FOR ME TO HIT THEM.
I KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. But, I guess you you had to be there.
I ask you: Is this a white, black, brown, tan, yellow thing?
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A similar situation a couple years prior:
I wanted to back out of a parking lot space, where I looked and proceeded.
Again, I decided to turn around and look before proceeding any further.
Same situation, only it was a different race person.
Why do "these people" stop right behind me? Is it because they see I'm a white driver?
Is it possible it's something to do with "there were 2 of them, and only one of me?".
Think about it. People want to have as many people around for witnesses. OK, I'll start doing that too.
I ask you: Is this a white, black, brown, tan, yellow thing?
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I'm telling you clearly now. I dislike the attitude of the majority of drivers in this area. AND YES, They are usually of a different race than I am, making this part of the country all the more 3rd world, traffic and all, as we try to move ahead.
My theory is this: My white skin shows up more easily to other drivers. When they see me coming, they often don't care.
AND BECAUSE OF YOUR "RACE BAITING", I'VE DECIDED TO CATALOGUE ALL SUCH SITUATIONS, FROM NOW, ON.
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ANOTHER SITUATION, AND THIS RIGHT ON THE DARN STREET I LIVE ON!
I was turning RIGHT IN TO THE VERY STREET I LIVE ON. I had just made the turn.
AGAIN, a driver of another race was in her car, and I was pulled up right next to her. I had another 40 yards to reach my house.
I wasn't stopped, just proceeding normally to my house.
Well, this blankety-blank hit her gas, right when I was next to her car. Her wheels start spinning/screeching.
I DON'T THINK SHE EVEN CARED TO LOOK TO HER LEFT TO SEE IF TRAFFIC WAS CLEAR FOR HER TO PROCEED.
I hit my horn, and just laid on it. I'm right next to her, when she's screeching her tires. Is there ever any reason to do that?
AND DON"T TELL ME SHE PROBABLY HAD A FIGHT WITH YOUR BOYFRIEND, BECAUSE IF YOU DO, I'LL TELL YOU:
You're not even supposed to get behind the wheel, if your emotions are out of whack. It's illegal.
And, in the space right in front of one's house?
She finally woke up, stopped spinning her wheels, and she stopped. AGAIN, our cars were were right next to each other,
on this narrow street, no yellow lines or anything running down the center.
I WAS TRULY AFRAID SHE"D BASH INTO MY CAR. I KEEP MY CAR NICE.
So, I proceed to my house, and she no doubt gets the picture: DON'T ACT LIKE A FOOL.
Now, I live at a "T" intersection. As soon as I cleared the T, she takes the left turn and speeds off down the road and there are plenty of kids in this neighborhood (of all races). DON'T TELL ME SHE HAD A GOOD REASON. BECAUSE THAT GOOD REASON IS BOUND FOR JAIL.
I MEAN SHE DISREGARDED THE SITUATION THAT I CLEARLY AVERTED, BY LAYING ON MY HORN; THE SAME SITUATION FROM WHICH SHE CLEARLY LEARNED NOTHING.
I drive a MUCH faster car than she has, AND mine is in MUCH better condition than hers. I drive the slowest of anyone in the neighborhood. Coming and going. We're not on a main highway. Not even on a secondary one. Any lesser a neighborhood, and we'd have dirt roads. I know what's out there, and this area.
I'M LOOKING TO LEAVE THIS AREA BECAUSE OF ALL THE OTHER RACES, AND THE CIRCUS THEY BELIEVE THEY LIVE IN.
AGAIN, I ask you: Is this a white, black, brown, tan, yellow thing? (I'll give you a clue: I'm a white man.)
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YET ANOTHER SITUATION: A "lady", again, of a different race, lives on the "T" part of what I described. She made the turn in her huge SUV, and our cars met face to face, me in my tiny car. CLEARLY SHE DIDN"T STOP OR PROCEED SLOWLY ENOUGH TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANOTHER CAR COMING. Because hey, it is a corner, and there are cars parked on both sides of the street.
Well, I was driving normally and safely, on the straight part. The female had to make her turn.
I didn't need to lay on my horn this time. I didn't move to one side or the other, either. I made her do all the moving, because she was clearly wrong. I wasn't about to get out of her way, I'd been living in this neighborhood for decades longer. I know how this neighborhood works.
Another time, this same woman, WITH ALL HER CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS had blocked the one of the "T" parts I happened to be coming down. JUST COMPLETELY BLOCKED IT.
SHE WASN'T EVEN IN HER CAR!
I ask you: Is this a white, black, brown, tan, yellow thing? (I'll give you a clue: I'm a white man.)
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Yet another situation. DIFFERENT PERSON THIS TIME. We have this one big highway. I'm cruising down in the right lane, doing my 55 and I come across this one person who was STOPPED. I mean COMPLETELY STOPPED, half way between the middle and right lanes. I stopped well in time. BUT, THERE WERE NO COPS OR OTHER EMERGENCY VEHICLES AROUND. But, he then put his signal on, and decided to take the exit which he barely missed, and had to stop the whole traffic flow. The exit leads to a downtown area, infested with drug activity. Again, nothing about race was raised. How could it? There are no traffic lights on this highway.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU DON"T STOP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HIGHWAY. THERE IS A SHOULDER, AND YOU MUST PULL OFF THE MAIN HIGHWAY AND STOP THERE. ALSO, IT'S ILLEGAL TO DO WHAT HE DID. JUST LIKE IT'S ILLEGAL TO BACK UP ON THE SHOULDER AND TAKE THE EXIT YOU MISSED.
WHEN I MISS AN EXIT, I DON"T STOP ON THE DARN HIGHWAY, I TRY FOR THE NEXT ONE, REGARDLESS IF I'M LOST OR NOT.
But NO, NOT THIS GUY. HE had to take his exit, which was headed right for DRUG city, and to hell with everyone else.
Part of why I stopped driving the big truck is because you're often routed off the highway, and subject to the same thing I've related above.
Do I need to go on with more examples of why this white man (me) should be afraid to drive because of other races around here?
So, I suggest you stop all this "whites against all races baiting".
I've posted elsewhere why I refuse to have black friends and acquaintances and I hope these examples I've personally experienced, as well as the past 2 lottery post stories will help prove to you why.
All of your incidences of driving drama may just be a string of coincidences, that you are blowing out of proportion in your mind - over reacting to. It is not necessarily a common regular occurrence, that constitutes a "race thing", to justify having no minority friends. - [It's just been your tough luck driving a car in the wrong areas.]
The majority of Black People are not like what you have experienced driving around.
A lot of people make the mistake of judging a whole race of people based on some isolated negative experience with a small number of that race of people.
This MISTAKE breeds racial hatred, prejudice and IGNORANCE !!! Duh !!!
It would be WISER to try Not to continue making this Mistake !! [Lest you be reborn as a member of the Race that you have issues with !!!] Double Duh !!!
Sounds like you drive around with suppressed Road Rage yourself [that you may be unaware of] , and you're trying to make it a "Race Thing" when you encounter other aggressive drivers.
Freudian Psychology 101 - Freud's 10 Defense Mechanisms -
Projection: Attributing one's own subconscious thoughts, feelings, or motives to another.
Sorry that I disagreed with you about him being a bigot the other day.
You were absolutely right.
Personally, I don't waste much time trying to reason with racists.
A wise man can change but fools can never change.
The Stand Your Ground Law allows individuals to protect their safety against thugs, as Zimmerman did.
destinycreation,
You know, a previous boss used to say:
With a college degree + bus fare, you get a bus ride.
And the poor 69 year old, in the story here, who was murdered?
How do you view the killer's actions, with all your Freudian drivel?
Bye the way, Freud was a cocaine addict, did you now that?
So, why would I be worried or even interested in his tainted brand of psychology?
My previous statements stand, as before.
Do you understand?
I'm still expecting an APOLOGY from you, for the previous time you accused me of being a racist.
And now, here you are continuing, and going on and on about me acting like I'm losing my mental functions. Unwarranted accusations by YOU.
Do you understand?
Well, are we going to see an intelligible apology, without all the colors or do we all assume you're incapable of basic human communication.
I never one said "You" + something accusatory to describe that person person.
I don't know what murdered 69 year old you are referring to ???
My reference to Freud is Not about Freud, it's about the definition of the Defense Mechanism of "Projection".
I apologize if any of my comments have offended you, it was not my intent to do so.
Sometimes discussions on LP get out of hand and off topic, unrelated to the game of lottery.
I understand that a person's perspective of the world is colored by their own life experience, and sometimes the mind can magnify the situation beyond its original boundaries. I live with a paranoid relative, and have this experience everyday, of being affected by her fears. It has caused me to take a step back, outside of someone else's "frame of reference", into a more neutral circle of reference, and ask myself what's really happening here ?? Is she right about the situation, or has her mind projected her own fears onto the situation, and magnified the issue beyond reasonable boundaries ???
I did not intend to imply that you are losing your mental functioning. I'm sure you are a very intelligent person. Sometimes the everyday stress of life can wear on a person's nerves, and your nerves become frazzled just living and functioning from one day to the next.
Again, I do apologize if I offended you. I hope we can put this misunderstanding behind us, and move on to focus on a discussion of the game of lottery instead.
I wish you a good day today.
The autopilot mechanism is the subconscious behaviors programmed to engage without the control of, or the observation by, the conscious self. Most importantly, neuroscience now reveals that the subconscious mind, which is an information processor one million times more powerful than the conscious mind, runs our behavior from 95 to 99% of the time.
So a black teenager walking home minding his own business, eating Skittles, and committing no crime is a "thug"???
Anyone of average intelligence knows better than that.
They listened to a Liar (Zimmerman) and got it wrong!
His actions since then shows that Zimmerman is the Thug!
You're an intelligent person to recognize that.
"Anyone of average intelligence knows better than that."
Right off the bat you've eliminated the 50% of people in the bottom half. Then you have to consider whether or not your audience is a random sample, and I think it's very clear that it isn't.
I hope you've been successful with the lottery!
His history speaks very loudly of Trayvon as a thug. You forgetting why his mom shipped him to his father?
He didn't shoot him because he was eating skittles. He shot him because Trayvon was beating his head against a concrete sidewalk. I'd call that a thug. I would have shot him too. And you?
How did all this racist BS start?
The story was about one guy that had an argument with another guy over a $50 lottery ticket. He slapped the guy, who then returns with an ax and murders him.
Does it matter what color they were?
LP members are not black, white, tan or whatever....WE'RE GREEN!
We're here to talk about the lottery...not get involved in politics or race issues.
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
Regardless, Zimmerman had no right to stalk and racially profile him.
The kid was walking home and not breaking any laws.
The 911 operator clearly instructed Zimmerman to stop following Trayvon, but he ignored the 911 operator's instructions.
His disobeying the 911 operator showed Zimmerman's disregard for the law.
You need to go to the BEGINNING of the situation to get a clear understanding.
It began with George Zimmerman, the RACIST...armed and psychotic, driving around and SEEING a black teenager.
It all BEGAN with his sight.
Once he SAW the black teenager walking, his sick mind started RACIALLY PROFILING the teenager, as Trayvon had committed the crime of "Walking While Black".
If you listen to Zimmerman's 911 call, which is on YouTube, you can hear him RACIALLY PROFILE the teenager, saying things like "He doesn't look "right", because he was BLACK.
What crime had Trayvon committed?
None.
Whose house did he break into?
No one's.
The young man was minding his own business and walking home.
In a country that claims to be free, a man should be able to walk without being followed.
In a civilized society, such predatory behavior should be against the law.
Would you drive around with a gun, racially profiling people like George Zimmerman did?
Imagine if an armed black man rode around, racially profiling white teenagers walking down the street, and following them with a menacing stare???
I'm sure that if a woman was walking down the street and a strange man in a car was following her and staring at her, if she found herself alone with him, she would attack him out of fear of being raped.
My point is that the situation started with Zimmerman STALKING and RACIALLY PROFILING Trayvon Martin.
No intelligent person who listened to the 911 tape would disagree with that.
You kidding me? How many people were shot last week in any major city? Take your pick. How about Chicago? Racist BS? About time people starting telling the F'n truth. Maybe if your wife were shot by a pos on crack for two bucks you'd sing a different tune.
Not true. That area had a history of blacks breaking into homes in the neighborhood. Look it up.
Hey buddy...Theres a reason why the majority of prison inmates are black... Clean your house before you condemn mine.
You saying that Zimmerman had the right to stalk and racially profile people???
That mindset is like the Gestapo in Nazi Germany.
It's probably the same reason that the majority of slaves were black, and if you live in America, we're both in the same house.
OK folks. I don't want to have to lock this thread. Let the reply right above mine be the last one that is off-topic. And please don't try to get one last subtle dig back in. THAT'S ALL.
Peace, Pot, and Rock'n'Roll. Now lock this stupid thread.
I so regret reading this thread, it makes me not want to come back.
This is really sad.