Welcome Guest
Log In | Register )
You last visited October 25, 2020, 2:47 pm
All times shown are
Eastern Time (GMT-5:00)

Court hears arguments on $559M lottery winner's plea to remain anonymous

Topic closed. 81 replies. Last post 3 years ago by jacintasc.

Page 4 of 6
PrintE-mailLink
Avatar
Chasing $ Millions.
White Shores- California
United States
Member #136473
December 12, 2012
6337 Posts
Offline

Some people don't give copies of the ticket(s) to pool members.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/13/news/powerball-office-pool/index.html

l totally get what you saying Zephbe, however for her to not give the rest of the pool a copy of the winning ticket or tickets, she would have to be a clairvoyant. Squirrel away "that particular ticket" from all the others to pull this off? That is what l would find "extremely unlikely."

There was this case a few years ago involving  these hair stylists... same thing. One of the girls supposedly bought her winning ticket apart from the pool. I wonder what happened to that case?

 * Voice of Reason *   

 

People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

    Avatar
    Seattle, Washington
    United States
    Member #121149
    January 3, 2012
    130 Posts
    Offline

    Oh for God's sakes; quit your whining!  You played the lottery, knowing full well this was a possibility!  Now that you've won, you want to change the rules?  You'd better get good with the idea that you agreed to the rules when you bought your lottery ticket.  In a court of law, your case has no merit, and will be summarily dismissed...

      Lynn2015's avatar - Trek PLANET.gif
      Killeen,Texas
      United States
      Member #167629
      July 24, 2015
      1949 Posts
      Offline

      Oh for God's sakes; quit your whining!  You played the lottery, knowing full well this was a possibility!  Now that you've won, you want to change the rules?  You'd better get good with the idea that you agreed to the rules when you bought your lottery ticket.  In a court of law, your case has no merit, and will be summarily dismissed...

      Exactly..I agree wit u..

        Avatar
        New Member

        United States
        Member #187910
        February 16, 2018
        1 Posts
        Offline

        So far - and strangely - the New Hampshire Lottery, has agreed to make payment to a trust the winner has set up AFTER signing the ticket? How is that possible? 

        She deserves her name to be made public as she is making a travesty of the rules and regulations of the lottery.

          Coin Toss's avatar - shape barbed.jpg
          100
          Zeta Reticuli Star System
          United States
          Member #30469
          January 17, 2006
          11504 Posts
          Offline

          This probably won't be popular but I hope she gets paid - anonymously and that this sets a precedent for all states with a lottery. 

          The only entities I can see pushing 'right to know' are lotteries themselves, nothing sells more tickets like a big winner and the second entity is very nosy people and paranoid people, "They never said who won, the ________ lottery is keeping the money."

          Can anyone point out any anonymous state that closed down its lottery?

          Ut oh. 

          Hiding Behind Computer

          Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners. 

          Lep

          There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

            zephbe's avatar - animal butterfly.jpg
            South Carolina
            United States
            Member #77165
            July 15, 2009
            897 Posts
            Offline

            https://bangordailynews.com/2018/02/16/news/new-england/nh-powerball-winner-suing-for-anonymity-will-get-her-money/

            They are paying her through the trust while the court decides on her request.  So she has the money.

            Every champion was once a contender who refused to give up.-Rocky Balboa

            “Don’t let someone who gave up on their dreams talk you out of going after yours.” – Zig Ziglar

              Avatar
              Kentucky
              United States
              Member #32651
              February 14, 2006
              8998 Posts
              Offline

              That would make for a good movie script Stack, but all will be revealed in time.

              I have to dig through the archives of my memory, but there was an incident many years ago here in CA, where the wife suddenly decided that she was not in love with her husband of 25 years anymore, so she left and never returned. Well one day a letter comes in the mail from the lottery office asking for particulars about her new mail box etc, the husband forwards the letter to he's attorney & the next thing you know, both the husband and the wife are in court over a " lottery win." To the best of my knowledge, the judge threw the book at the wife, calling her deceitful & an evil person, awarded him the entire jackpot win... community of property bud.

              Then there was the case of that Latino guy from NY or NJ a few years back who suppposedly won the jackpot ALONE  despite him always playing along with the job pool.He too got nailed by the courts. It's risky behavior, and if you correct, the public that is siding with her at present, will turn on her in a NY minute... that's a fact Stack.

              When someone on LP suggested a pool might be the reason she doesn't want her name published, I thought of lots of the articles here about people suing large prize winners. I personally know two people that shared a $20 million Ohio Lotto jackpot and participated in other pools and one was a 30 person pool that I was in too. There never was a question about them sharing with that pool because they didn't buy the tickets for the pool. There was one guy who said he made a deal with them that if any of them won a jackpot, they would share with the other. But it was never in writing so it never went anywhere.

              Anyways if the person running the pool wins and can claim anonymously, it might be difficult for the others to find out. The thing is, even if their name isn't published, if it was a co-worker others would notice when they quit their job and neighbors will certainly notice a drastic change in lifestyles. 

              The NH Lottery will give "poor Jane Doe" part of the winnings before the court rules next week. 

                Avatar
                New Hampshire
                United States
                Member #163567
                February 3, 2015
                53 Posts
                Offline

                I live in Merrimack.  We dont know who it is.  https://www.facebook.com/groups/merrimackforum/  that group has a post every other day asking who knows.  No one does.  Many are quick to tell people to be quiet and stop asking questions so maybe the winner has defenders looking out trying to keep the light off her.  It's  a public group so you should be able to see or search it.

                 

                There's no guarantee the winner is from Merrimack,  could be Nashua or Manchester or another town/city nearby.  There are two restaurants that are next to or across the street from the store that sold the ticket.  Many people from out of town frequent them and may have stopped in to get a lotto ticket while they were there eating.

                  Avatar
                  Chasing $ Millions.
                  White Shores- California
                  United States
                  Member #136473
                  December 12, 2012
                  6337 Posts
                  Offline

                  When someone on LP suggested a pool might be the reason she doesn't want her name published, I thought of lots of the articles here about people suing large prize winners. I personally know two people that shared a $20 million Ohio Lotto jackpot and participated in other pools and one was a 30 person pool that I was in too. There never was a question about them sharing with that pool because they didn't buy the tickets for the pool. There was one guy who said he made a deal with them that if any of them won a jackpot, they would share with the other. But it was never in writing so it never went anywhere.

                  Anyways if the person running the pool wins and can claim anonymously, it might be difficult for the others to find out. The thing is, even if their name isn't published, if it was a co-worker others would notice when they quit their job and neighbors will certainly notice a drastic change in lifestyles. 

                  The NH Lottery will give "poor Jane Doe" part of the winnings before the court rules next week. 

                  Interesting..

                   * Voice of Reason *   

                   

                  People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.

                    CDanaT's avatar - Nolz june15.jpg
                    Central TN
                    United States
                    Member #121189
                    January 4, 2012
                    4775 Posts
                    Offline

                    Perhaps this gal should have read the  below articles

                    https://manfredlaw.com/lottery-lawyers/

                     

                    www.thelotterylawyer.com/

                     

                    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ppvejb/a-lawyer-who-specializes-in-lottery

                    Integrity: There is just no substitute.

                      Goteki54's avatar - Lottery-007.jpg
                      Baltimore, MD
                      United States
                      Member #143328
                      May 30, 2013
                      438 Posts
                      Offline

                      EXACTLY!! The rules are the rules. If she doesn't want to abide by the rules, then she should forfeit the prize or give it all away, then she wouldn't have to worry about being "stressed". They're many people who are publicly known who are multii billionaires and don't "stress" about people knowing they have wealth. The only thing missing in this drama are the beginning and ending credits.Hit With Stick

                      Following the trends and patterns means following the money!Banana

                        Perfecttiming2's avatar - redcross

                        United States
                        Member #65959
                        October 11, 2008
                        202 Posts
                        Offline

                        Tough call (imho). I more than understand the rules and they are crystal clear on making the claim.

                        For her personal safety, I am all for that 110%.

                        I believe ,like all of us, we have heard "sign the back of your ticket" for years and years. Those of us that post on here, know undoubtedly, that with this massive win requires discretion, professional legal guidance and sound decision making prior to making the claim.

                        I was a bit curious about safety tips that the lottery posts on the TEXAS state website, so I went and took a gander:

                        www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/Winners/Player_Protection/Security_Spotlight/index.html

                        The third line down says, " Sign your tickets upon receipt"

                        So then being a bit more curious I went to the FAQ section and here is what is posted there:

                        www.txlottery.org/export/sites/lottery/FAQ/index.html

                        WHAT SHOULD I DO WHEN I PURCHASE MY TICKETS ?

                        ANS: "Check your ticket(s) upon receipt to ensure they are correct and they are the ticket(s) you intended to purchase. Sign Your Ticket upon receipt" <-- Notice the caps on sign your ticket

                        There was an informative reply in the question of 

                        If I join a group of players, can more than one person claim a prize on the same ticket

                        No. The Texas Lottery Commission will pay only one claimant per ticket. A “claimant” can be an individual, a trust, a partnership, a corporation, or any other legal entity. The way in which you claim a prize cannot be changed after the ticket is validated and the prize is paid; therefore, careful consideration and professional advice, including but not limited to legal or financial advice, is recommended before the prize is claimed, especially for larger prizes or those prizes that are paid by installments. If you choose to claim the prize as a trust, partnership, or other legal entity, the legal documents that create the legal entity must be submitted for review to the Texas Lottery's Legal Services Division before claiming your prize. This is required to ensure the documents comply with the State Lottery Act and the Commission’s administrative rules. If you claim your prize as any entity other than an individual, a Federal Employer Identification Number (FEIN) is required.

                        Notice the difference between "sign your ticket upon receipt" and "careful consideration..legal or financial advice is recommended..  I know they are in 2 separate questions but some of the longer statement could apply to the what I do when I purchase my tickets.

                         

                        In closing, while I understand her requests for privacy and possible misunderstanding of rules. She didn't complete a full research of the legal options available and she will have to endure public scrutiny, I believe. 

                        Thank goodness Texas allows us to claim anonymous on prizes of $1 Million or more   Thumbs Up

                        Just my 2 pennies worth on this article as written.

                        I hope that what is going on with this ticket will cause others to look up the rules for their own state.

                        Had this woman done her homework to find out that her state allowed her to claim ticket under a trust, she could have signed the ticket in PENCIL...put the ticket in a safe place and then call a financial advisor. 

                        Had she done this, we would not have this story.

                          Avatar
                          NH
                          United States
                          Member #83349
                          December 5, 2009
                          224 Posts
                          Offline

                          Wonder what her lawyer is charging her for all this? This looks to me like some lawyer trying to get as much money as possible out of her. All she had to do is add to the ticket " Jane Doe and then another name or institution Trust...Sure they would release the name of the trust with her name being one of the names in he trust, but she could have her lawyer go collect the money and never see the front of a camera. 

                          Heck she could still right on the ticket. Jane Doe(her name which is already on the ticket) and add, wants to stay anon Trust Fund. So JANE DOE WANTS TO STAY ANON TRUST FUND...Right that on the ticket. You wont be anon but it would be pretty funny.

                            Coin Toss's avatar - shape barbed.jpg
                            100
                            Zeta Reticuli Star System
                            United States
                            Member #30469
                            January 17, 2006
                            11504 Posts
                            Offline

                            Maybe she should have signed Ann Nonymous.

                            Wink

                            Those who run the lotteries love it when players look for consistency in something that's designed not to have any. So many systems, so many theories, so few jackpot winners. 

                            Lep

                            There is one and only one 'proven' system, and that is to book the action. No matter the game, let the players pick their own losers.

                              Avatar
                              Chasing $ Millions.
                              White Shores- California
                              United States
                              Member #136473
                              December 12, 2012
                              6337 Posts
                              Offline

                              Maybe she should have signed Ann Nonymous.

                              Wink

                              Well played Sir!

                               * Voice of Reason *   

                               

                              People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it- George Bernard Shaw.