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Artist77's avatar - batman14

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I'm not defending anyone, but I will say that you don't have to live dirt-poor in order to be religious or to live in a Christian manner.  I think you can say you disagree with these people without trying to personally attack them.

A better line of debate might be to address the point that nowhere in the Bible does it say ANYTHING about gambling being bad.  In fact, the Bible makes specific mention of "lots", which is the root from which "lottery" is derived.  So, in fact, Christianity is more pro-gambling than anti-gambling (IMHO).  It's the churches in the Bible Belt that have misconstrued the teaching and inserted their OWN beliefs that gambling is somehow "bad".  (Again, in my opinion.)

Edit: I see that mikeintexas has mentioned this in the comments above as well — nice to see we are on the same page! Smile

Amen.  I think it is also an issue as well of being overly attached to or obsessed with nice things and money and letting it consume oneself.  Money in and of itself is not the issue. I see many of my coworkers spend a ridiculous amount of money eating out or take out multiple times a day from upscale restaurants.. Could I afford to do the same? Yes, but to me that is an excess. I am very happy bringing in my own home made veggie meals 99% of the time. Some people can never live a bit below their means. In that case, money is controlling you. But I still like nice things. I remember when I bought my first home and settled for an average size home in a great neighborhood. One co-worker was shocked that I did not buy the biggest model just because I could afford it.

So lottery playing in a reasonable manner is not sinful unless it is taken to an extreme. I am also not aware of any teaching about Christians going into casinos. Jesus never called for Christians to be poor. There are specific bible verses where Jesus expects one to multiply and grow their talents and not bury them in the dirt.

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    Yes l have Stack. This article speaks of the opposition from the churches in the bible belt. What l am pointing out not was, but is, the hypocrisy there. Many of these leaders live in palatial homes, have amassed insane fortunes into the multi millions, own jets. Yet we told that Jesus was not just poor, but dirt poor. He had One item of clothing, he also said that " foxes have dens, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay down his head."  It's no wonder that we read that judgment will start with the house of God.

    * 1Peter 4:17

    Yeah I know what you meant about the net worth of some of the bigger televangelists, but the smaller Mississippi congregations are probably more worried about their 501C3 status than the creation of a state lottery.

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      Yeah I know what you meant about the net worth of some of the bigger televangelists, but the smaller Mississippi congregations are probably more worried about their 501C3 status than the creation of a state lottery.

      l hear you,I Agree! those smaller congregations need a CPA. It's enough to make those handling the books - sweat a little.

       

      1. Income Statement with very specific revenue and expense categories like donations, salaries, postage, rent...

      2. Balance Sheet with specific categories like cash, accounts receivable, accounts payable...

      3. Functional Expense Statement with all the expenses allocated to either program services, fundraising, or operations.

      4. Individual Program Expense Statement that reports all of the expenses for each program or service like seminar programs or educational mailings.

      5. Revenue Support Schedules that detail the organization's sources of income in specific categories like charitable donations, membership fees, investment income.

      All because the IRS uses this very specific revenue and expense classifications to determine if their organizations will retain its tax-exempt status.What?

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        Churches are automatically covered as 501 c 3 groups. I am uncertain why any of the smaller churches in general would be having problems with that status.

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          Governor promises to sign into law

          The Mississippi House reversed itself Tuesday and passed a bill to create a state lottery in the Bible Belt state where churches have long opposed it.

          The vote came during a special session, less than 24 hours after the House originally voted to kill the bill that the state's Republican governor promises to sign into law. There was no debate Tuesday as a few representatives changed their votes from no to yes.

          Mississippi is one of six states without a lottery, and Gov. Phil Bryant had been pushing lawmakers for more than a year to create one. Supporters estimate a lottery could generate tens of millions of dollars annually, and Bryant says he wants the money to help pay for repair to crumbling highways and bridges.

          "This is a historic day in Mississippi," Bryant said on Twitter. "Mississippi lawmakers rose to the occasion."

          Supporters said it would take about a year to get a lottery up and running.

          The bill was opposed by politically powerful Baptist and Pentecostal groups and some people who called it a regressive tax on poor people in one of the poorest states in the U.S. The state's influential casino lobby did not oppose a lottery but fought some lawmakers' ultimately unsuccessful efforts to allow video lottery terminals in places like truck stops.

          Bryant pointed out that three of the four states bordering Mississippi have a lottery, and Mississippi residents drive to Louisiana, Arkansas and Tennessee to buy millions of dollars of tickets each year.

          The lottery bill passed the Senate Monday night but it failed initially in the House with 60 opposed and 54 in favor. The House subsequently passed the bill Tuesday with 58 in favor and 54 opposed.

          Tuesday was the fourth day of a special session that Bryant called, asking lawmakers to put millions more dollars into highways and bridges. More than 400 of Mississippi's city and county bridges are closed because they are in bad repair. The state Department of Transportation says it needs at least $400 million more per year just to keep state highways from deteriorating.

          Supporters of a lottery estimate it could generate about $40 million for the state in the first year and $80 million in subsequent years.

          The Senate and House last week passed different versions of a lottery bill, and top lawmakers spent much of Monday working out the differences. The two chambers must agree on a single version before it can go to the governor.

          Republican Rep. Bill Denny said Tuesday that he has opposed attempts to establish a lottery for more than two decades, but he voted in favor this time because his constituents in Jackson want it.

          "Every time I go to the grocery store, 'Bill, we need the lottery,'" Denny said.

          Democratic Rep. Greg Holloway of Hazlehurst voted against the bill initially and then for it Tuesday.

          "My people have contacted me," Holloway said. "They want the lottery and I want them to have what they want."

          Democratic Rep. Jeramey Anderson of Escatawpa voted for the bill Monday and against it Tuesday. He said he wanted a guarantee that a significant share of lottery money would go to education.

          "Killing the bill would have given us a better opportunity to negotiate," said Anderson, who is running for a U.S. House seat. "Unfortunately, that didn't happen. I do support the lottery, but I support public education, as well."

          I'm happy that Mississippi approve a state lotto that they will buy a ticket about 6 months after the governor signs the bill!

          I hope that one $2 ticket is the only one that matches all 5 numbers plus the PB to win the largest PB jackpot in United States history of over $2 Billion Dollars! I hope that one $2 ticket is the only one that matches all 5 numbers plus the Mega Ball to win the largest Mega Millions jackpot in United States history of over $2 Billion Dollars!