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Homeless man dives into dumpster to retrieve lottery ticket worth $4.82M

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How do you know when he went into the dumpster to retrieve whatever he was after?

The quote is from the guy himself: "I always use the same playslip to buy my tickets. In fact... I accidentally threw it away and had to climb in a dumpster to get it back."  Is that how you'd say it if you were talking about throwing the ticket away? Why did he even mention always using the same play slip?

Then there's this quote: "As soon as I saw they matched, I started shaking and haven't stopped since," If he saw that the numbers matched he was probably looking at something else with those numbers. Had he already gone dumpster diving to recover a ticket before knowing it was a winner? Was he looking at the play slip? Either way, why would he say he started shaking right away without clearly saying he had thrown the ticket away?

I think the logical explanation is that the quote means exactly what it says and that some reporter who doesn't get enough time to do a good job got confused.

Upon further review, l have come up with this scenario.

He originally threw his play-slips into the dumpster by mistake. On Oct 11, while out for a walk, he checked his ticket/tickets and found out that he was a winner. He knew this for certain because he said: The 6 numbers matched, matched what? Obviously, the ticket he was looking at or holding in his hand. It was probably at this point that he thought to himself " l have been playing these numbers for more than 2 years, my ship has finally come in. Given my present good fortune, l had better hold onto my play-slips. Wait a minute, where are they? Oh, l know, l threw them in a dumpster at... 

...and on that note: l say good night.

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    Upon further review, l have come up with this scenario.

    He originally threw his play-slips into the dumpster by mistake. On Oct 11, while out for a walk, he checked his ticket/tickets and found out that he was a winner. He knew this for certain because he said: The 6 numbers matched, matched what? Obviously, the ticket he was looking at or holding in his hand. It was probably at this point that he thought to himself " l have been playing these numbers for more than 2 years, my ship has finally come in. Given my present good fortune, l had better hold onto my play-slips. Wait a minute, where are they? Oh, l know, l threw them in a dumpster at... 

    ...and on that note: l say good night.

    NG, there are just too many holes in the original story to fill in with certainties as opposed to this/that might have happened.

    The 1st sentence said he threw the ticket in a dumpster.....okay..Where was that dumpster located? Near where he was calling home or was it near the store where he purchased the tickets or somewhere in between?

    When he went to get his play slip from the dumpster,was it AND the ticket thrown out together or in separate dumpsters ?  Or is this more of a situation that was improperly reported for a feel-good story that should have been solely titled "A man retrieves his lucky play slip from the dumpster after realizing he won"? What?<shoulder shrug>

    I don't necessarily concur with your point of "obviously the ticket he was looking at or holding in his hand". Consider this... Playing for a few years the very same numbers, it would be reasonable to deduce that he new the numbers by heart. "While out on his walk", he may have stopped by the store and picked up a print out of the recent draw numbers ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR he could have had a cell phone and be checking the numbers during his walk. Unfortunately the writer/interviewer does not clarify those particular details. Granted, the man was limited in his financial situation so I can't assume how he was checking his numbers.

    Just missing a few factual "ingredients" (IMHO)..... But at least he has turned in the winning ticket and retrieved his play slip. THAT, is truly a blessing during this holiday season and a pretty good tale to repeat.

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      NG, there are just too many holes in the original story to fill in with certainties as opposed to this/that might have happened.

      The 1st sentence said he threw the ticket in a dumpster.....okay..Where was that dumpster located? Near where he was calling home or was it near the store where he purchased the tickets or somewhere in between?

      When he went to get his play slip from the dumpster,was it AND the ticket thrown out together or in separate dumpsters ?  Or is this more of a situation that was improperly reported for a feel-good story that should have been solely titled "A man retrieves his lucky play slip from the dumpster after realizing he won"? What?<shoulder shrug>

      I don't necessarily concur with your point of "obviously the ticket he was looking at or holding in his hand". Consider this... Playing for a few years the very same numbers, it would be reasonable to deduce that he new the numbers by heart. "While out on his walk", he may have stopped by the store and picked up a print out of the recent draw numbers ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR he could have had a cell phone and be checking the numbers during his walk. Unfortunately the writer/interviewer does not clarify those particular details. Granted, the man was limited in his financial situation so I can't assume how he was checking his numbers.

      Just missing a few factual "ingredients" (IMHO)..... But at least he has turned in the winning ticket and retrieved his play slip. THAT, is truly a blessing during this holiday season and a pretty good tale to repeat.

      You right CD. Too many holes in this story. I was simply taking a shot in the dark with my assumption- plus you have a law enforcement background, so you in a better position to view things from that perspective. More importantly though, is that he ends up with the money! Now had to gone to the press stating that he threw the winning ticket in the dumpster & was now  going to search the landfill, what an adventure that would be...for him. 

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        Who in their right mind would buy a lottery ticket and then throw it in the trash before checking to see if you won?

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          Who in their right mind has ever had a chance to retrieve a huge wining ticket from the garbage.That's a winning mind

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            Forget the warm and fuzzies for a minute. This guy was homeless yet he was playing the lottery? DisapproveThat's the main thing that sticks out for me, not that he found the ticket. He should have never been playing in the first place. So chances are he was panhandling for money to play the lottery, and people gave it to him.Chair

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              I think he found a discarded ticket that he did not buy.

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                I think he found a discarded ticket that he did not buy.

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                  "The 1st sentence said he threw the ticket in a dumpster"

                  The 1st sentence isn't quoting what the guy said. The part that is quoting what the guy said appears to say he threw the play slip in a dumpster.

                  Call me crazy, but I'm going to rely on what the guy seems to have said rather than what some reporter definitely wrote.

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                    Hmmmmm, am I the only one that remembers this same scenario from just (6) short years ago?????

                     

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                      "The 1st sentence said he threw the ticket in a dumpster"

                      The 1st sentence isn't quoting what the guy said. The part that is quoting what the guy said appears to say he threw the play slip in a dumpster.

                      Call me crazy, but I'm going to rely on what the guy seems to have said rather than what some reporter definitely wrote.

                      The quote was "dived into a dumpster to retrieve the winning ticket"..if you want to be so technical about it ... but I took i took step further and looked at what was a reasonable deduction in believing that he was in fact the person who was responsible for the ticket ending up in the dumpster. Following the connection leads from this news article

                      https://www.wpxi.com/news/trending-now/homeless-man-dives-into-dumpster-to-retrieve-lottery-ticket-worth-482m/874379799

                      The last news agency connection that contributed from the above link. 

                      https://www.abc12.com/content/news/Millionaire-Bay-County-man-claims-half-of-964-million-lottery-prize-500690711.html

                      "He tossed a winning ticket from the Oct 10 drawing and had to scavenge a dumpster to get it back"

                      Being homeless according to the L.P.article doesn't give me any thoughts that he stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and tossed it into a trash can which was put into a dumpster by the cleaning crew.

                      The good news is that according to this link:

                      https://www.clickondetroit.com/lottery/michigan-lottery-man-climbs-through-dumpster-to-find-winning-lotto-47-ticket

                      " The morning after the drawing, I was out for a walk and checked the numbers on my phone"....  resolving how he was checking his numbers.

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                        "The quote was "dived into a dumpster to retrieve the winning ticket"..if you want to be so technical about it"

                        I want to be accurate about it. You understand the difference between quoting parts of the article written by a reporter and quoting the guy himself, right? You can quote several articles that say he threw the ticket away, but not a single article quotes the guy as saying he threw the ticket away. They all quote the guy saying something that sounds very much like he threw the play slip away.

                        And perhaps you noticed that the second article you linked uses a more complete quote of what the guy himself said that hasn't been in any of the other articles I've seen: "I always use the same playslip to buy my tickets. In fact, a few months ago I accidentally threw it away and had to climb in a dumpster to get it back. I am so lucky that I found it."

                        Besides the logical conclusion that the two consecutive sentences are connected by both being about the play slip, a few months ago was before the drawing that made the ticket a winner. While there's a chance he bought a multi-draw ticket well before the drawing there's pretty much zero chance that he went back and found it in the dumpster some weeks later. Of course there's an extremely good chance that what he said means what it sounds like and he threw the play slip in a dumpster and went back and recovered it, allowing him to play the numbers that won.

                        The reasonable deduction is that the guy who actually knows exactly what happened has told us what happened, but a reporter (or perhaps lottery employee relaying information to a reporter) misunderstood and described something that didn't happen.

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                          Hmmmmm, am I the only one that remembers this same scenario from just (6) short years ago?????

                           

                          https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2092681/Three-women-claim-1-million-winning-lottery-ticket-fished-trash-theirs.html

                          I Agree! and besides who wants to read and discuss articles where lottery winners simply claimed their prize and went on their way.

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                            "The quote was "dived into a dumpster to retrieve the winning ticket"..if you want to be so technical about it"

                            I want to be accurate about it. You understand the difference between quoting parts of the article written by a reporter and quoting the guy himself, right? You can quote several articles that say he threw the ticket away, but not a single article quotes the guy as saying he threw the ticket away. They all quote the guy saying something that sounds very much like he threw the play slip away.

                            And perhaps you noticed that the second article you linked uses a more complete quote of what the guy himself said that hasn't been in any of the other articles I've seen: "I always use the same playslip to buy my tickets. In fact, a few months ago I accidentally threw it away and had to climb in a dumpster to get it back. I am so lucky that I found it."

                            Besides the logical conclusion that the two consecutive sentences are connected by both being about the play slip, a few months ago was before the drawing that made the ticket a winner. While there's a chance he bought a multi-draw ticket well before the drawing there's pretty much zero chance that he went back and found it in the dumpster some weeks later. Of course there's an extremely good chance that what he said means what it sounds like and he threw the play slip in a dumpster and went back and recovered it, allowing him to play the numbers that won.

                            The reasonable deduction is that the guy who actually knows exactly what happened has told us what happened, but a reporter (or perhaps lottery employee relaying information to a reporter) misunderstood and described something that didn't happen.

                            If you would like to be "accurate"as you often are a H.O. picking sentences apart with most of your replies to most subjects on here. Your last sentence of "has told us"  isn't true. He may have told the story to the lottery commission a few friends and the press but he didn't tell me....He relayed his story to a reporter who made it available to us... BTW the full reported quotes on how he checked his numbers while out on his walk varied from LP and the news agencies in his home state. 

                            Opinions and interpretations vary.... You have yours and I have mine and other members have theirs....Best of luck with your future lottery choices

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                              "The quote was "dived into a dumpster to retrieve the winning ticket"..if you want to be so technical about it"

                              I want to be accurate about it. You understand the difference between quoting parts of the article written by a reporter and quoting the guy himself, right? You can quote several articles that say he threw the ticket away, but not a single article quotes the guy as saying he threw the ticket away. They all quote the guy saying something that sounds very much like he threw the play slip away.

                              And perhaps you noticed that the second article you linked uses a more complete quote of what the guy himself said that hasn't been in any of the other articles I've seen: "I always use the same playslip to buy my tickets. In fact, a few months ago I accidentally threw it away and had to climb in a dumpster to get it back. I am so lucky that I found it."

                              Besides the logical conclusion that the two consecutive sentences are connected by both being about the play slip, a few months ago was before the drawing that made the ticket a winner. While there's a chance he bought a multi-draw ticket well before the drawing there's pretty much zero chance that he went back and found it in the dumpster some weeks later. Of course there's an extremely good chance that what he said means what it sounds like and he threw the play slip in a dumpster and went back and recovered it, allowing him to play the numbers that won.

                              The reasonable deduction is that the guy who actually knows exactly what happened has told us what happened, but a reporter (or perhaps lottery employee relaying information to a reporter) misunderstood and described something that didn't happen.

                              "And perhaps you noticed that the second article you linked uses a more complete quote"

                              The man, who chose to remain anonymous

                              Doesn't telling a story about dumpster diving at a news conference defeat the purpose of remaining anonymous? Do you really need any more information to understand what you call quotes are from a spokesman for the Michigan Lottery?