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Posted: November 30, 2004, 2:12 pm - IP Logged

Ok, this is something I came up with. I have made twice  5hit ticktes. wich usually gives prizes around 20.000 bucks, here in Brazil. This is a 6/60 lottery , but it would work fine in any type of 6 digit lottery.

This strategy is ABSOLUTELY great for number selection.  This is what I do:

First lets get some statistics






091,59%
115928,04%
230153,09%
39516,75%
430,53%
500,00%



I used the last  567 draws for this, and found out that 53% of all the drawings 2 colums will not figure any number (1-10, 11-20 etc)

this means, that out of 567 drawings only 9 draws had numbers in each column. ex  05-14-22-35-48-53 so this only happens 1,5% of the time

If we could just KNOW wich of the 2 colums of numbers  will not be draw in the next drawing we could delete at least 20 numbers from our choices. Hey, thats making a 6/60 with a 1:50063860 chance, into a 6/40 1:3838380

thats 46 million !!! better

Now, decide if you are going to play prior number or not, If the last 2 drawings had prior numbers, chances are there is not going to be a any prior on this next drawing. Bet, it will not happen. and go ahead and eliminate 6 numbers (all the numbers from the previous drawing). NOW,

Take a look at all the long shot numbers in the previous drawing,
ex(05-21-23-31-38-59), Long shot numbers are numbers with a skip of 18+ for this 6/60 lottery.  lets assume  21 had been out 22 games, and 31 had been out 19 games. Take a look if there is any current number out 19 or 22 games, and dont play those numbers. It its VERY VERY rare that 2 long shot numbers with skips of 22 or 19 be draw in consecutive drawings.

Thats a start.  now, select 5 numbers for each columns ( choose the best 5 numbers for each column, not randon) Gail howard has a lot of information on number selection.

ex :

5 numbers from 0-10 = 02,04,07,08,09
5 numbers from 11-20 = 11,14,16,17,19

and so on until you have 30 numbers select

now, choose a colum of numbers you are positive there will be at least 1 number drawn ex (21-30) you are sure there will be a numbers from here.

now choose a wheel withing you budget. ex (20-3if5 21ticktes), your budget will have to be 10x the wheel you choose.

in this case 21 ticktes x 10 = 210 tickets

Now, get the 5 number of each column you chose and play like it the table shows,

You will make 10 different wheels ,
ex line 1, Dont place numbers in (0-10 and 11-20) place 20 numbers from 21-60 field

Skip line 2, because you chose because you dont want to eliminate any numbers from colum 21-30



0-1011-2021-3031-4041-5051-60
line 1123456
line 2123456
line 3123456
line 4123456
line 5123456
line 6123456
line 7123456
line 8123456
line 9123456
line 10123456
line 11123456
line 12123456
line 13123456
line 14123456
line 15123456



 






Odds of matching 5 of the 20 played1 in 12.38








Odds of matching 6 of the 20 played1 in 99.03



This way, YOu will always, get at least 1 wheel that will focus the 20 numbers you chose in columns you know there is winning numbers.

ok at least 1 wheel will FOR SURE have 1 in 99 chances to have all 6 winning numbers.  having 6 winning numbers within a wheel is VERY VERY hard. So I think this a BIG advantage.

Hey not a miracle , but lets not forget that this was 1 in 50 million chance to get the 6 winning numbers.

Hope I made myself clear.

This is good strategy for LOTTO POOLS.

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    Posted: November 30, 2004, 2:56 pm - IP Logged
    Quote: Originally posted by Vinicius on November 30, 2004



    Ok, this is something I came up with. I have made twice  5hit ticktes. wich usually gives prizes around 20.000 bucks, here in Brazil. This is a 6/60 lottery , but it would work fine in any type of 6 digit lottery.

    Hope I made myself clear. 






    Congratulations on your two 5of6 wins.  With those wins, you have already evaluated your strategy.  May you have many more.

    RJOh

     

     * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
       
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      Posted: November 30, 2004, 2:56 pm - IP Logged

      sure i agree it's good for pool play, and maybe with a little more evaluation, and some filtering, you just might cut those percentages even further. good luck..!

                                                   

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        Posted: November 30, 2004, 3:01 pm - IP Logged

        Sorry to say I'm not making any sense of this at all . . .

        I'm looking at the Brazil 6/60 Gail Howard E and E2 charts and not seeing anything like the percentages you're showing.  We're talking what the decades contribute to the winning combination, right?  Or did you work out your own percentages?

        Why are we pulling five numbers from each group if we don't know what groups will be contributing to the winning combination? 

        Pick-3 wheeling tells us 6 units can be combined 20 different ways in groups of 3 (box), but in this case we'd need to consider groups of 2 and 4 as well. 

        Not understanding the wheeling either. 

        How many numbers are we wheeling in how many lines?  21 lines x 10 what quality wheel does 21 lines buy in this case if one of these 10 wheels hit?

        Why not just play a group wheel or a positional wheel?  What wheel would be best if you could find it?

        BobP
           

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          Posted: November 30, 2004, 4:29 pm - IP Logged

          Quote: Originally posted by BobP on November 30, 2004






          Sorry to say I'm not making any sense of this at all . . .

          I'm looking at the Brazil 6/60 Gail Howard E and E2 charts and not seeing anything like the percentages you're showing.  We're talking what the decades contribute to the winning combination, right?  Or did you work out your own percentages?

          0     9      1,59%
          1     159     28,04%
          2    301    53,09%
          3      95    16,75%
          4     3        0,53%
          5     0        0,00%

          The first line is how many columns there were without any winning numbers .  Meaning 301 games out 567 games 2 columns did not had any number drawn. so the 6 winning numbers were within 4 different columns

          ok so this is a fact , it realy happened in megasena(6/60) most popular lottery game in Brazil. 

          But its true to any 6/49+ lotterys that 1, 2 or even 3 columns never contain any winning number. Just rundown statistics from any 6 digit lottery you will see that 45 / 55% + you will not see numbers in any 2 columns for a fact.

          ex: 02-05-21-28-35-52 (not having any number from 11-20 & 41-50)

          results missing 2 entire columns happens 50+% of the drawings

          Why are we pulling five numbers from each group if we don't know what groups will be contributing to the winning combination? 

          Right we dont. Thats the IDeia. ITs choosing 30 but only playing 20, per wheel. EACH wheel will contain 20 numbers distributed within only 4 possible columns. You will not play 2 different columns in each wheel.
          This way you are playing all 30 numbers, but 20 at a time.


          Pick-3 wheeling tells us 6 units can be combined 20 different ways in groups of 3 (box), but in this case we'd need to consider groups of 2 and 4 as well. 

          Nah, now that doesnt make any sense. Its pure simple math. there are 15 diferent possible combinations. By choosing a colum you think there will be a winning number you narrow down it to 10 different possible options.

          Not understanding the wheeling either. 

          How many numbers are we wheeling in how many lines?  21 lines x 10 what quality wheel does 21 lines buy in this case if one of these 10 wheels hit?

          Ok, doesnt matter you can choose any wheel that you want, your budget will determine how far you can go. In the above example i chose the following wheel

          20 numbers guarantee 3 if 5  = 21 ticktes

          Thats 21 ticktes per line

          10 lines to play = 210 tickets

          IF in the next drawing 2 columns be left out (and thats 50%+ of the drawings)and its not the one you choose than you are 100% guaranteed to have played 20 numbers out of 40


          Why not just play a group wheel or a positional wheel?  What wheel would be best if you could find it?

          BobP
             







           

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            Posted: November 30, 2004, 6:33 pm - IP Logged

            Ok, if I read this right you break the game down into decades (10's) and for your game have found a strong tendency toward all the winning numbers coming from 4 of the 6 groups from your 6/60 game.

            Pick-4 for 6 digits takes 15 numbers to box, that as you found is how many ways we have to combine the 6 groups into sets of 4.

            The 3if5of6in20numbers wheel can be made in 20 lines and concurrently provide 2if2 coverage which helps.  The fact you won a 5# prize with 3if5 coverage shows you are very lucky.

            Here is the (20,6,3,5,20) 3if5of6in20n20c wheel, you'll notice it isn't split.

             1  2  3  4  5  6
             1  2  9 10 13 20
             1  3  4  7 16 19
             1  5  8 15 17 18
             1  6 11 12 14 15
             1  8 13 17 18 19
             2  4 11 12 15 18
             2  5  7 14 15 17
             2  6  8 16 17 19
             2 11 12 13 18 19
             3  4  8 14 19 20
             3  6  7 15 18 20
             3  6  8 13 15 16
             3  9 10 14 16 18
             3 11 12 13 17 19
             4  5  7 13 14 16
             4  6  9 10 17 20
             5  6  9 10 15 19
             5 11 12 16 17 20
             7  8  9 10 11 12

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              Posted: November 30, 2004, 10:35 pm - IP Logged

              This may save you some of the cost to play, but fewer lines even when improved are fewer chances to win, though a matter of luck either way.

              In building the following wheel, I made 6 groups of 5 numbers each for you to load with the better numbers from each of your groups.  From each group is pulled from a minimum 0 zero to a maximum of 2 numbers with an overall guarantee of 3if5of6 in 30 numbers 102 lines. 

              When I tested the wheel, I found I could close the 3if5of6 guarantee no matter where the numbers come from with 3 more lines, hence the last 3 lines for a total of 105.  I didn't just make a straight up 3if5of6 wheel because I believe your method contributes to your good result. 

              I would suggest you continue your method, but copy and paste my wheel into CoverMaster and work the number exchange with your groups and see how it plays on paper.  1-5 first group, 6-10 second group, etc.

              I also ran the same min 0 max 2 from each of 6 groups of 5 numbers for a 4if6 guarantee and found one at 646 lines, if you want that email me.

              BobP

               1  2  3  9 12 13
               1  2  3 10 14 15
               1  2  3 19 24 30
               1  2  6  7  8 11
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               1  3  4 16 17 21
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               2  5  6 17 18 22
               2  5  8  9 10 11
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               2  5 15 21 26 28
               2  6  7 10 19 25
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               3  4  5  7  8 28
               3  4  5 10 22 30
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               3  5  9 11 12 20
               3  6  7 10 21 23
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               4 11 20 21 22 30
               4 16 23 24 25 28
               5  7 12 18 27 30
               5  7 16 26 29 30
               5  8  9 13 18 23
               5 10 11 17 19 27
               5 12 15 21 24 29
               5 14 16 19 22 25
               6  8 15 18 24 30
               6  8 17 20 28 30
               6  9 13 19 21 26
               6 11 14 16 17 24
               6 11 15 16 20 25
               6 11 16 18 28 29
               6 12 14 21 22 28
               6 12 20 22 23 27
               7  8 11 15 19 21
               7  9 10 11 14 18
               7  9 10 22 24 28
               7  9 19 23 27 28
               7 11 13 22 23 29
               7 13 15 17 18 30
               7 14 20 25 26 27
               7 17 20 21 28 29
               8 10 12 13 16 22
               8 11 13 14 20 27
               8 11 14 19 23 29
               8 12 20 25 26 29
               9 10 15 23 25 30
               9 11 12 24 26 30
               9 14 17 21 27 29
               9 16 18 22 23 26
               9 17 18 19 25 28
              10 12 15 19 29 30
              10 13 21 23 28 30
              10 15 16 19 20 28
              12 13 17 23 24 28
              12 16 19 20 21 27
              13 15 17 22 25 28
              13 18 21 25 26 27
              14 15 18 20 22 27
              15 17 19 22 24 26
               1 21 24 25 27 29
               6 13 16 18 20 26
               6  9 10 12 21 30
              end 105 lines (30,6,3,5,105) BobP