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Posted: December 3, 2004, 10:17 am - IP Logged
Quote: Originally posted by CalifDude on December 3, 2004



But, the tiers don't work at all in this case.  The numbers are just from Win d's list and my list.  These are NOT draws, so the tiers only show the duplicate numbers between the 2 lists. 

In this case, the Deflate 3 does nothing to help select what to play as far as hot/cold, etc.






My comments to Blackapple were not just about the numbers in your list, they were about how to use the system in general.  I understand that your numbers can't be hot or cold.

The tiers DO work in your set of numbers.  They show that you have duplicated some predictions, which some people may believe makes those duplicated numbers more likely to hit.  I would play the tier 2 numbers myself.

 

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    Posted: December 3, 2004, 10:17 am - IP Logged
    Quote: Originally posted by takeitez on December 3, 2004



    Playing Ga. (combinned draws) at for $2 a number ($1 str and $1 bx)would cost $120 to play Win D list. The last 100 draws show 6 plays , playing only after a double comes 2 times, that happened 5 times but one time doubles came 3 in a row. SO 6 x $120 = $720 (cost to play )  and 3 box wins @ $150 + 1 str @ $900 =$1350 won for a profit of $630  !!!

    Way to go CD and Win D  !!

    ez





    Or divide everything by 4 for those of us that only afford 25 cent tickets!! 

    Thank you ez for doing the math.


     

      WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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      Posted: December 3, 2004, 1:19 pm - IP Logged

       This is a first . This is the first time I can remember seeing a strategy that ended up with the word profit at the end. LOL 

        Really,,,,Up until now... most of the play strategies that I have seen here ended up saying ...."well at least we lose a lot less money this way."  So....this is quite a change.  Profit huh? Hmmm , I'll bet we can tweek this a little more and improve it.

       Here is a prediction for ya.... I'll bet it ends up with us playing mostly a large group of doubles .......and in combination with some sort of "Wait and See then Shoot Strategy"  Wait -See-and-Shoot

       Good stuff so far 

       

       

      The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                    Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                    Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                             Win d    

        WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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        Posted: December 3, 2004, 1:53 pm - IP Logged

         Just a side note. That was really a strange group of 100 numbers. Those synthetic  PRNG's that Ca. uses in their draws throw out some unusual results. Check this out....

          Out of a 100 random draw results I would expect to have approx. 27 doubles show up. This particular example in Calif.  had 29. That's OK ...... but I have never seen this pattern of doubles before.

        With-in the 29 doubles that showed up I would expect to find around a 10% representation of each double.  We should expect around Three ...11's three 22's three 33's  etc etc. Right?  No...wrong . We had double 00's show up 9 times!! Thats like 30% of the total doubles. Very odd. Gross as a matter of fact.  This reminds me of that girl in "Young Frankenstein".....named  .... .Ms ABBY Normal ...LOL  

         The point of this side note is to say........ No matter what the system ....old Mother Nature and Random chance will throw out a curve to mess up any Strategies Nervous system. They will only be as perfect as their last win will allow. It will always be gambling....more..and hopefully in our case less.

         29 doubles and over 30% are Zero's...... Geezz    

         

         

        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                               Win d    

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          Posted: December 3, 2004, 2:00 pm - IP Logged

          After the multi doubles in PA. would you suggest

          playing your theory WIN D? Any picks?

          You can input too!, CALIFDUDE.

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            Posted: December 3, 2004, 2:01 pm - IP Logged

              Kinda like fishing,take it slow and easy but keep your eyes open!!!

              Like my handle says take-it-easy

            takeitez   

                      No Pity!Guitar  Drum ........ in the long run........

              WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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              Posted: December 3, 2004, 2:18 pm - IP Logged

              Gee whiz Blackapple.....dont ask me to predict on PA. I just don't know their stats. I will say based on the examples here .....the best time to play a bunch of 6 ways is after the doubles are seemingly ....and statistically finished doing their thing. After subtracting as many of the recent hits as one dared from the play group to lower  cost ....the odds are more in favor of a profit. There's that word again.   

               

               

              The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                            Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                            Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                     Win d    

                takeitez's avatar - japheth
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                Posted: December 3, 2004, 2:32 pm - IP Logged

                Win-D

                  check out what I put on the prediction post page for PA

                From you list!

                ez

                          No Pity!Guitar  Drum ........ in the long run........

                  WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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                  Posted: December 3, 2004, 3:13 pm - IP Logged

                   ok..... here are your choices takeitez: 015, 016, 017, 018, 019, 025, 026, 027, 028, 029, 035, 036, 037, 038, 039, 045, 046, 047, 048, 049

                   Now here is the way my brain works. First ...

                  I would prefer that Pa. just finished having ...2 doubles not just one before using this method. 

                  Next ...I noticed that you included 3 recent hits from Pa. the 017 and 026 036. I would drop those 3 at least.

                  Then I noticed (in the last 30 days) of the last 9 hits from my 60 list on Pa. Eve. that.....all of them had a Zero in them(except 531) which is half my list.

                   About half are zero and half one's. So I would add a bunch of the One's  choices like

                   137 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 and keep some of the zero's on your list...like

                   025 027 028 029 047.  Saves a little ...hope not to much. 

                   

                   

                   

                   

                  The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                         Win d    

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                    Posted: December 3, 2004, 5:24 pm - IP Logged

                    Here is more comparison of California using my method of waiting for one of the numbers to hit and then play until you have 3 misses.




                    CA


                    Win D


                    CD


                    009




                    076


                    B


                    B


                    666




                    247



                    S


                    319


                    B



                    927



                    B


                    476




                    418


                    B


                    B


                    173


                    B



                    532




                    656




                    098


                    B


                    B


                    138


                    S


                    S


                    160


                    B



                    072


                    B


                    B


                    178



                    S


                    516


                    B



                    299




                    615


                    B



                    722



                    B


                    364




                    712


                    B


                    B


                    405


                    B



                    165


                    B



                    999




                    785




                    939




                    381


                    B


                    B


                    644




                    100




                    973




                    726




                    513


                    B



                    666




                    006




                    925



                    B


                    019


                    S


                    S


                    415


                    B



                    133




                    560


                    B



                    191




                    307


                    B


                    B


                    972



                    B


                    060




                    962



                    B


                    686




                    659




                    151




                    020




                    797




                    430


                    B



                    661




                    199




                    203


                    B



                    120


                    B



                    650


                    B



                    460


                    B



                    107


                    B


                    B


                    348




                    431


                    B



                    824




                    085


                    B


                    B


                    840


                    B



                    082


                    B



                    034


                    S



                    460


                    B



                    178



                    S


                    200




                    149


                    S


                    S


                    006




                    607


                    B


                    B


                    009




                    488




                    421


                    B



                    155




                    849




                    040




                    995




                    205


                    B



                    879




                    587




                    846




                    201


                    B



                    730


                    B


                    B


                    974




                    987




                    643




                    088




                    021


                    B



                    611




                    098


                    B


                    B


                    658




                    327



                    B


                    861


                    B


                    B


                    358




                    187



                    B


                    965




                    015


                    S



                    590


                    B


                    B


                    158


                    S


                    S




                    This post looks strange...very wide!

                    The yellow cells are the plays.

                    Win d:  83 plays x 60 x $0.25 = $1,245 bet 

                        29 box hits and 5 straight hits

                        If playing straights only:  $1,125 paid back  for a small loss

                        If playing box only:  $1,275 paid back for a small win

                    CalifDude:  58 plays x 50 x $0.25 = $725 bet

                        12 box hits and 4 straight hits

                        If playing straights only:  $900.00 paid back for a good profit.

                        If playing box only:  15 x 37.50 + 1 x 75.00 (a double) = $637.50 paid back for a loss

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                      Posted: December 3, 2004, 7:38 pm - IP Logged

                       

                      WIND

                      PA has had 4 draws with doubles..

                      How do you determine which numbers to start playing midday tomorrow?

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                        WIN  D's avatar - q05Q0
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                        Posted: December 3, 2004, 8:02 pm - IP Logged

                         Hello tntea,

                            I am stuck in my ways and pretty much separate the 2 draws......and so I did give a quick look for Blackapple today and looked over the Night time draws in Pa.  It was positioned with one double.....and I said not much confidence in playing this method tonight on the night game. However, you can see how I thought about the steps to prepare to play at night......they would work for the day draw as well.

                         I'll tell ya one thing ....... with all those doubles on Midday ....this is a lot better chance for this method of play. Heck ,,,, its 50/50 now ....cause now that I have just looked at your Day draws ....and all those doubles stacked up. I would say this store is open for business. (6 ways)

                         You might go back like I did for the night game and try to subtract several of the more recent Day hits from the play group.

                         I have to say this..... PA draws are not nice.....Wow you guys get a lot of strange stuff! Hurts my feelings just to look at it. LOL  Just on midday alone during the last 60 days you should expect 16.2 doubles right? You guys just had your 27th double ! The last 4 of which all .....had digit 2 swing numbers. Wow.. Have you guys been on a doubles drought for years or something? Ha

                           Geesssss why is this sooo wide? Its making me dizzzzzy ....blah

                         

                         

                        The only real failure .....is the failure to try.                               

                                                      Luck is a very rare thing....... Odds not so much. 

                                                      Odds never change .....but probability does. 

                                                                                                               Win d