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finding Pick 6 abbrev. 5if5of32 wheel?

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Posted: March 19, 2005, 7:24 pm - IP Logged

Hi there.  I'm looking for an abbreviated 5if5of32 wheel (pref. in software rather than paper - although I wouldn't necessarily mind picking up Bluskov's or Howard's books if they have them, pref. not too pricey) - I see the "lottery wheels" section on the left doesn't have one, and some brief searching didn't turn one up either.  So, I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction.

(I realize this type of wheel will likely generate a lot of tickets, but for now I'm testing a pet theory, so I can eliminate some more combos later.)

Thanks!

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    Since there are 201,376 combinations of 5's in 32 numbers and 6 combinations of 5's in each group of six, you are talking about at least 30,000+ combinations of 6's.  CoverMaster might be able to produce such a wheel, but it will take a while to optimize it.  Most published wheels are smaller than 1,000 combinations, so you will have to create a custom wheel.  If I was going to cover that many possible combinations, I would use a RNG that would eliminate any combinations of 4's that had come up in an earlier drawings and avoid any repeat of combinations of 4's within the group.  In the Ohio649 game 5of6 pays $1,500 and 5of6+B pays $10K so it doesn't make sense to play over 1500 combinations even if you get lucky.  Good luck.

    RJOh

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      Posted: March 20, 2005, 5:38 pm - IP Logged

      Thanks for the suggestions.

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        Posted: March 21, 2005, 1:00 pm - IP Logged

        Well, you certainly weren't kidding about CoverMaster's "optimized" wheel taking a while :) I let it run overnight and into this morning, and if it continued at it's current rate, it would have taken about 15 days of continuous processing time :) My processor's a bit old, but still half-decent (Athlon XP 1700+) - I may try it again on a faster computer that I can leave on all the time...



        At any rate, an unoptimized wheel didn't take that long, and generated 36544 combos, so that's a good start....

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          When you are optimizing a wheel that large, you probably would be better off with an older and slower dedicated computer with good cooling that you could check once a day until it was done.

          RJOh

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            Posted: March 21, 2005, 4:13 pm - IP Logged

            Out of curiousity, is there an average # of combos that an optimized wheel reduces the resulting wheel by?  Or am I misunderstanding what it's optimizing exactly?

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              I have optimized smaller wheels and have reduced the number of combinations by 5-10%.  With a larger wheel there should be some potential to do even better, but that is a lot of swapping and comparing and it would take quite a while.  I would think it would be a little faster to optimize the wheel as it is generated but I've never had the patience to allow my computer to be tied up that long. 

              RJOh

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                Posted: March 21, 2005, 10:37 pm - IP Logged

                Hi Mabman,

                    Do you mean you'd like a wheel for 32 numbers?  Gail Howard has a book "Wheel Five to Win"  for $19.95 U. S.  The web site to order is Smartluck.com.  There are hundreds of wheels in this book!  Good luck with your theory.


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                  Quote: Originally posted by mabman on March 19, 2005



                  Hi there.  I'm looking for an abbreviated 5if5of32 wheel (pref. in software rather than paper - although I wouldn't necessarily mind picking up Bluskov's or Howard's books if they have them, pref. not too pricey) - I see the "lottery wheels" section on the left doesn't have one, and some brief searching didn't turn one up either.  So, I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction.

                  (I realize this type of wheel will likely generate a lot of tickets, but for now I'm testing a pet theory, so I can eliminate some more combos later.)

                  Hi,

                  I can send you the system 5 if 5 of 32 by e-mail or I can tell you the link for my German lottoforum. There are a lot of systems for free download.

                  WeEf




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                    Posted: March 22, 2005, 1:47 pm - IP Logged

                    I'm certainly open to looking at other wheels (as CoverMaster has generated one for me already), so feel free to PM the link directly to me if you'd like. (I don't speak German, so hopefully the wheels are clearly labeled ;)



                    Thanks!

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                      Posted: March 22, 2005, 7:29 pm - IP Logged
                      Quote: Originally posted by Gailfan on March 21, 2005



                      Hi Mabman,

                          Do you mean you'd like a wheel for 32 numbers?  Gail Howard has a book "Wheel Five to Win"  for $19.95 U. S.  The web site to order is Smartluck.com.  There are hundreds of wheels in this book!  Good luck with your theory.





                      overstock.com has it for $14.42