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LottoJet's avatar - ginger
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Posted: April 1, 2005, 9:17 pm - IP Logged

Hello all,

I'm reading in this forum for a while, though never participated, i really like it.
I'm here to ask for your opinion about a lottery software i've been developing for
the last 18 months.

Please visit my web site at http://www.lottojet.com/language/English/

you will find a lottery software that offers plenty of goodies
( some not found in any software on the net ), and a free demo.
As a lottery phreak, I designed this software according to my kind of thought,
but i'd really like you to share your thoughts with me. I will take any remark
as serious as it can be !

About my self, I'm 34 and I live in Jerusalem, Israel....

Best regards

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    Ok, I looked and can't figure out what the features Lottojet offers that can't be found in other lottery softwares on the net.  Seems very basic.

    You want $39.95, Lotto Creo is $24.95, please pay them a visit and explain what makes Lottojet the better product.  Oh, and what has Lottojet won for you so far?  http://lottocreo.gamer.hr/?AfID=18431

    I'm not mocking your software, the claim of exclusive features perhaps . . .

    BobP

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      Posted: April 1, 2005, 10:05 pm - IP Logged

       

      You may want to add even-odd to your filter.

      WHATT

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        hi again,

        BoBP, althought i said that lottojet offers new features, i truly have
        no intention comparing my software to others here, its not ethical ( i think ).

        have you tried the demo ? please do if not... there are great wheels and many
        other features...
        winnings ? i my self got 5+bonus about a year ago, and i know for sure about
        4 more wins of 5. with the very little exposure i got to lottojet, i think its great.

        JAP69, how are you ? lottojet do support odd/even filters... and more.

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          When ever a member mention their system or program and how well it works, I check their prediction statistics.  So far there has been only a couple of members who had something to sell that has actually tested it using the prediction board.

          RJOh 

           * you don't need to buy more tickets, just buy a winning ticket * 
             
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            How it is ethical to claim you have features no other lottery software has when you won't look at other lottery software. 

            It is unethical to downgrade other software to make yourself look good.

            It is never unethical to honestly compare features.  BobP

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              Quote: Originally posted by BobP on April 1, 2005


              How it is ethical to claim you have features no other lottery software has when you won't look at other lottery software. 

              It is unethical to downgrade other software to make yourself look good.

              It is never unethical to honestly compare features.  BobP



              believe me i looked at too many.
              can you quote me downgrading a specific lottery software ?

              edit : BoBP, i'll give you a license and you will compare. ok ?
              i'm really not objective here...


               

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                Sounds as though he's going to offer you a license Bob...... compare it and let us know on the forum.  I'll cut the guy some slack if he's actually going to give you a lisence to do this.

                 

                Raziel

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                  Miss

                  Do please give Bob a license and then let him tell us about your software, we here trust Bob to tell us the truth.

                  And much good luck to you and Israel, God is with you all in spite of all your problems as a nation, God bless you all.

                  By the way, it would be nice to have the Texas games on your software also please.

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                    thanks a lot LANTERN for the warm welcome !!!
                    i'll add Texas tomorrow, stay updated...

                    you can add any pick5\pick6 lottery in a minute,
                    but you will not get online statistics, yet you can maintain
                    it manually.

                    "Ten measures of beauty descended to the world, nine were taken by Jerusalem." <-- true

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                      LottoJet:

                      I appreciate the offer I truely do and I wasn't saying you were running down other software, I was saying that's what I would consider to be unethical conduct. 

                      I downloaded and looked over the demo which is supposed to be fully functional except limited to only a 12 and 25 number wheeling system.

                      Frankly the impression I received was of a half finished program.

                      The help file opened your forum which contained an empty box.

                      I saw no method of predicting the numbers to play.

                      The Pie Chart (Florida) is not labeled as it is in your screen shot.

                      The stastics appear to be just hot and cold numbers.

                      The filters are gross rather then defined with no statistics for the user to base their selection on.

                      It doesn't appear possible to print the combinations except on the play slips.

                      I'd have to compare LottoJet to the 1989 version of EOL's Lottery Tracker and Wheeler, where your limited filters and play slip printing would have been new features. 

                      To begin with, I expect a lottery program to predict or attempt to predict winning numbers.  If I could predict winning numbers I wouldn't need a computer to do it. 

                      Wheels should cover up to all the numbers in the game not stop at 30.

                      Filters should have a report so you know what to set them to.

                      The pie chart and colored box columns should be based on what each draw contained based on a user selectable range of past draws.  If you want to present statistics for hot, cold and repeat we need to know how many hot, cold and repeat numbers have appeared in each winning draw and we should be able to load the wheel so the combinations contain that ratio. 

                      You took the program to market way too early in its development.  If all people need is to predict their own numbers, wheel and filter, there is already totally free lottery software that can do that.  You need to take it up a couple of notches.  Give people a real reason to buy beyond wheeling and bet slip printing.  BobP



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                        Quote: Originally posted by BobP on April 2, 2005



                        LottoJet:

                        I appreciate the offer I truely do and I wasn't saying you were running down other software, I was saying that's what I would consider to be unethical conduct. 

                        I downloaded and looked over the demo which is supposed to be fully functional except limited to only a 12 and 25 number wheeling system.

                        Frankly the impression I received was of a half finished program.

                        The help file opened your forum which contained an empty box.

                        I saw no method of predicting the numbers to play.

                        The Pie Chart (Florida) is not labeled as it is in your screen shot.

                        The stastics appear to be just hot and cold numbers.

                        The filters are gross rather then defined with no statistics for the user to base their selection on.

                        It doesn't appear possible to print the combinations except on the play slips.

                        I'd have to compare LottoJet to the 1989 version of EOL's Lottery Tracker and Wheeler, where your limited filters and play slip printing would have been new features. 

                        To begin with, I expect a lottery program to predict or attempt to predict winning numbers.  If I could predict winning numbers I wouldn't need a computer to do it. 

                        Wheels should cover up to all the numbers in the game not stop at 30.

                        Filters should have a report so you know what to set them to.

                        The pie chart and colored box columns should be based on what each draw contained based on a user selectable range of past draws.  If you want to present statistics for hot, cold and repeat we need to know how many hot, cold and repeat numbers have appeared in each winning draw and we should be able to load the wheel so the combinations contain that ratio. 

                        You took the program to market way too early in its development.  If all people need is to predict their own numbers, wheel and filter, there is already totally free lottery software that can do that.  You need to take it up a couple of notches.  Give people a real reason to buy beyond wheeling and bet slip printing.  BobP







                        hi BoBP,

                        since i asked for the opinion, i'll also reply with remarks, some of them philosophically.

                        prediction
                        we in israel have this phrase :
                        "Prophecy was given to the fools", meaning - there is no possible reliable way to predict
                        a lottery number since its a random dvent. if you can sell me a tool that can predict a single
                        number in a 50% ratio, i'll buy it for 1000$. deal ?

                        statistics
                        the pie chart is not labled since you probably havent selected a lottery from the menu.
                        statistics is 2 years of past draws, hot/cold and span view, i have a apecial robot that collect draws.

                        filters
                        what do you mean "filters are gross rather then defined" ?
                        with a repeat filter you filter combinations against the past draws ( up to 256 ).
                        this is the most powerful filter i think, and i havent found any software that deliver this.

                        "Filters should have a report so you know what to set them to." - they do report, and every filterd
                        combination is colored.

                        printing
                        "It doesn't appear possible to print the combinations except on the play slips.", i'll consider
                        adding this even i dont think you need this if you can print to a bet slip and view the combinations.

                        wheels
                        "Wheels should cover up to all the numbers in the game not stop at 30." - i'm planing on expanding to 35 numbers, but lets get real, how often you play a 35 number wheel ? some of the wheels lottojet
                        offers, are the most optimal you will find. with lottojet you can also play full wheels.

                        "Ten measures of beauty descended to the world, nine were taken by Jerusalem." <-- true

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                          I would humbly submit that if you want to check out some cool filtering on wheels, check it out on the Full Wheels page for either Pick 5 or Pick 6: click one of the Full Wheels, and then click the Show Filters button to show all the possibile Filters.

                           

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                            hi BoBP,

                            since i asked for the opinion, i'll also reply with remarks, some of them philosophically.

                            prediction
                            we in israel have this phrase :
                            "Prophecy was given to the fools", meaning - there is no possible reliable way to predict
                            a lottery number since its a random dvent. if you can sell me a tool that can predict a single
                            number in a 50% ratio, i'll buy it for 1000$. deal ?

                            This is a red herring.  The lottery is a drunken stagger where we attempt to predict the next step within perarmeters.  Even total random often displays patterns that may continue one more draw.  I would even consider as valuable a prediction tool that is always wrong as I'd know what numbers not to play. 

                            Look, we're not talking scientific method with results that can be reproduced in the lab.  We're talking about the computer software giving us a leg up on the other players ahead and behind us on line buying tickets. 

                            statistics
                            the pie chart is not labled since you probably havent selected a lottery from the menu.
                            statistics is 2 years of past draws, hot/cold and span view, i have a apecial robot that collect draws.

                            I had loaded the Florida lottery and downloaded the history, the pie chart showed percentages, but was missing the descriptions of what they refered to.

                            filters
                            what do you mean "filters are gross rather then defined" ?
                            with a repeat filter you filter combinations against the past draws ( up to 256 ).
                            this is the most powerful filter i think, and i havent found any software that deliver this.

                            There are two ways to filter (maybe more) the gross way is to bulk filter such as to eliminate combinations with three or more odd numbers. This uses a broad brush to sweep many combinations off the table.

                            The other method is the targeted filter or defined filter where one's research might suggest the next draw will be either 3 odd and 3 even numbers or 2 odd and 4 even.  I realize your software might do this with multiple passes, but others do it with a selection of each filter while showing the expected percentage of each based on probability and what past draw history had drawn so far.

                            What are the odds of a wheel generated combination matching a previous lottery win anyway?  When I review how often 3, 4 and 5 numbers out of 6 drawn in combinations previously have repeated I'm not that quick with the slash unless I'm targeting only the jackpot.

                            "Filters should have a report so you know what to set them to." - they do report, and every filterd
                            combination is colored.

                            Sorry, I did not find a statistical breakdown of the filter settings I could use to set the filters.


                            printing
                            "It doesn't appear possible to print the combinations except on the play slips.", i'll consider
                            adding this even i dont think you need this if you can print to a bet slip and view the combinations.

                            Not everyone wants to change printer settings to mark a couple of play slips and verify it was done perfectly when they can just print the plays and hand mark the play slip leaving a page to circle the winning numbers after the draw.  No one minds extras if the basics are there.


                            wheels
                            "Wheels should cover up to all the numbers in the game not stop at 30." - i'm planing on expanding to 35 numbers, but lets get real, how often you play a 35 number wheel ? some of the wheels lottojet
                            offers, are the most optimal you will find. with lottojet you can also play full wheels.

                            Hmmm, actually if you want to avoid predicting the alternative is open cover wheeling designs with up to all the numbers in play.  I hope you realize the wheel guarantee is totally compromised the moment the filters remove one line so optimal is pointless anyway.  The optimal lottery software's like Lottohat and Lotwin apply your filters to a full wheel of up to all the numbers and distills out a lower tier prize wheel on the fly.


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                              I just want to comment on this part



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                              filters

                              what do you mean "filters are gross rather then defined" ?

                              with a repeat filter you filter combinations against the past draws ( up to 256 ).

                              this is the most powerful filter i think, and i havent found any software that deliver this.

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                              There is a program that can do checks against past draws and even in perplexed format for advanced statistical analysis, beyond the 256 limit (theoritically unlimited if we have that huge history). As for powerful filtering, i think no program comes close to what Lotto Architect can do in this area, honestly. I made this research on available programs 2 years ago to conclude of missing features and this lead me to the powerful filtering design I have implemented in this program.

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