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Posted: April 7, 2005, 11:52 am - IP Logged

A fairly strange story came to me in a newsletter.  The site link crashes my browser, so I'm posting the entire piece.  Been wondering if the non-randomness of the numbers isn't responding to the same energy phenomenon:

'Can This Black Box See Into the Future?' (Global Consciousness
Project)

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face=Arial,Geneva,Verdana,Sans-Serif color=#003399 http://www.rednova.com/news/display/?id=126649>

 
DEEP in the basement of a dusty university library in Edinburgh lies a
small black box, roughly the size of two cigarette packets side by
side, that churns out random numbers in an endless stream.

At first glance it is an unremarkable piece of equipment. Encased in
metal, it contains at its heart a microchip no more complex than the
ones found in modern pocket calculators.

But, according to a growing band of top scientists, this box has quite
extraordinary powers. It is, they claim, the 'eye' of a machine that
appears capable of peering into the future and predicting major world
dvents.

The machine apparently sensed the September 11 attacks on the World
Trade Centre four hours before they happened - but in the fevered mood of
conspiracy theories of the time, the claims were swiftly knocked back
by sceptics. But last December, it also appeared to forewarn of the Asian
tsunami just before the deep sea earthquake that precipitated the epic
tragedy.

Now, even the doubters are acknowledging that here is a small box with
apparently inexplicable powers.

'It's Earth-shattering stuff,' says Dr Roger Nelson, emeritus
researcher at Princeton University in the United States, who is heading the
research project behind the 'black box' phenomenon.

'We're very early on in the process of trying to figure out what's
going on here. At the moment we're stabbing in the dark.' Dr Nelson's
investigations, called the Global Consciousness Project, were
originally
hosted by Princeton University and are centred on one of the most
extraordinary experiments of all time. Its aim is to detect whether all
of humanity shares a single subconscious mind that we can all tap into
without realising.

And machines like the Edinburgh black box have thrown up a tantalising
possibility: that scientists may have unwittingly discovered a way of
predicting the future.

Although many would consider the project's aims to be little more than
fools' gold, it has still attracted a roster of 75 respected scientists
from 41 different nations. Researchers from Princeton - where Einstein
spent much of his career - work alongside scientists from universities
in Britain, the Netherlands, Switzerland and Germany. The project is also
the most rigorous and longest-running investigation ever into the potential
powers of the paranormal.

'Very often paranormal phenomena evaporate if you study them for long
enough,' says physicist Dick Bierman of the University of Amsterdam.
'But this is not happening with the Global Consciousness Project. The effect
is real. The only dispute is about what it means.' The project has its
roots in the extraordinary work of Professor Robert Jahn of Princeton
University during the late 1970s. He was one of the first modern scientists to
take paranormal phenomena seriously. Intrigued by such things as telepathy,
telekinesis - the supposed psychic power to move objects without the
use of physical force - and extrasensory perception, he was determined to
study the phenomena using the most up-to-date technology available.

One of these new technologies was a humble-looking black box known was
a Random Event Generator (REG). This used computer technology to generate
two numbers - a one and a zero - in a totally random sequence, rather
like an electronic coin-flipper.

The pattern of ones and noughts - 'heads' and 'tails' as it were -
could then be printed out as a graph. The laws of chance dictate that the
generators should churn out equal numbers of ones and zeros - which
would be represented by a nearly flat line on the graph. Any deviation from
this equal number shows up as a gently rising curve.

During the late 1970s, Prof Jahn decided to investigate whether the
power of human thought alone could interfere in some way with the machine's
usual readings. He hauled strangers off the street and asked them to
concentrate their minds on his number generator. In effect, he was
asking them to try to make it flip more heads than tails.

It was a preposterous idea at the time. The results, however, were
stunning and have never been satisfactorily explained.

Again and again, entirely ordinary people proved that their minds could
influence the machine and produce significant fluctuations on the
graph, 'forcing it' to produce unequal numbers of 'heads' or 'tails'.

According to all of the known laws of science, this should not have
happened - but it did. And it kept on happening.

Dr Nelson, also working at Princeton University, then extended Prof
Jahn's work by taking random number machines to group meditations, which were
very popular in America at the time. Again, the results were
eyepopping. The groups were collectively able to cause dramatic shifts in the
patterns of numbers.

>From then on, Dr Nelson was hooked.

Using the internet, he connected up 40 random dvent generators from all
over the world to his laboratory computer in Princeton. These ran
constantly, day in day out, generating millions of different pieces of
data. Most of the time, the resulting graph on his computer looked more
or
less like a flat line.

But then on September 6, 1997, something quite extraordinary happened:
the
graph shot upwards, recording a sudden and massive shift in the number
sequence as his machines around the world started reporting huge
deviations from the norm. The day was of historic importance for
another
reason, too.

For it was the same day that an estimated one billion people around the
world watched the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales at Westminster
Abbey.

Dr Nelson was convinced that the two dvents must be related in some
way.

Could he have detected a totally new phenomena? Could the concentrated
emotional outpouring of millions of people be able to influence the
output
of his REGs. If so, how?

Dr Nelson was at a loss to explain it.

So, in 1998, he gathered together scientists from all over the world to
analyse his findings. They, too, were stumped and resolved to extend
and
deepen the work of Prof Jahn and Dr Nelson. The Global Consciousness
Project was born.

Since then, the project has expanded massively. A total of 65 Eggs (as
the
generators have been named) in 41 countries have now been recruited to
act
as the 'eyes' of the project.

And the results have been startling and inexplicable in equal measure.

For during the course of the experiment, the Eggs have 'sensed' a whole
series of major world dvents as they were happening, from the Nato
bombing
of Yugoslavia to the Kursk submarine tragedy to America's hung election
of
2000.

The Eggs also regularly detect huge global celebrations, such as New
Year's Eve.

But the project threw up its greatest enigma on September 11, 2001.

As the world stood still and watched the horror of the terrorist
attacks
unfold across New York, something strange was happening to the Eggs.

Not only had they registered the attacks as they actually happened, but
the characteristic shift in the pattern of numbers had begun four hours
before the two planes even hit the Twin Towers.

They had, it appeared, detected that an dvent of historic importance
was
about to take place before the terrorists had even boarded their
fateful
flights. The implications, not least for the West's security services
who
constantly monitor electronic 'chatter', are clearly enormous.

'I knew then that we had a great deal of work ahead of us,' says Dr
Nelson.

What could be happening? Was it a freak occurrence, perhaps?

Apparently not. For in the closing weeks of December last year, the
machines went wild once more.

Twenty-four hours later, an earthquake deep beneath the Indian Ocean
triggered the tsunami which devastated South-East Asia, and claimed the
lives of an estimated quarter of a million people.

So could the Global Consciousness Project really be forecasting the
future?

Cynics will quite rightly point out that there is always some global
dvent
that could be used to 'explain' the times when the Egg machines behaved
erratically. After all, our world is full of wars, disasters and
terrorist
outrages, as well as the occasional global celebration. Are the
scientists
simply trying too hard to detect patterns in their raw data?

The team behind the project insist not. They claim that by using
rigorous
scientific techniques and powerful mathematics it is possible to
exclude
any such random connections.

'We're perfectly willing to discover that we've made mistakes,' says Dr
Nelson. 'But we haven't been able to find any, and neither has anyone
else.

Our data shows clearly that the chances of getting these results by
fluke
are one million to one against.

That's hugely significant.' But many remain sceptical.

Professor Chris French, a psychologist and noted sceptic at Goldsmiths
College in London, says: 'The Global Consciousness Project has
generated
some very intriguing results that cannot be readily dismissed. I'm
involved in similar work to see if we get the same results. We haven't
managed to do so yet but it's only an early experiment. The jury's
still
out.' Strange as it may seem, though, there's nothing in the laws of
physics that precludes the possibility of foreseeing the future.

It is possible - in theory - that time may not just move forwards but
backwards, too. And if time ebbs and flows like the tides in the sea,
it
might just be possible to foretell major world dvents. We would, in
effect, be 'remembering' things that had taken place in our future.

'There's plenty of evidence that time may run backwards,' says Prof
Bierman at the University of Amsterdam.

'And if it's possible for it to happen in physics, then it can happen
in
our minds, too.' In other words, Prof Bierman believes that we are all
capable of looking into the future, if only we could tap into the
hidden
power of our minds. And there is a tantalising body of evidence to
support
this theory.

Dr John Hartwell, working at the University of Utrecht in the
Netherlands,
was the first to uncover evidence that people could sense the future.
In
the mid-1970s he hooked people up to hospital scanning machines so that
he
could study their brainwave patterns.

He began by showing them a sequence of provocative cartoon drawings.

When the pictures were shown, the machines registered the subject's
brainwaves as they reacted strongly to the images before them. This was
to
be expected.

Far less easy to explain was the fact that in many cases, these
dramatic
patterns began to register a few seconds before each of the pictures
were
even flashed up.

It was as though Dr Hartwell's case studies were somehow seeing into
the
future, and detecting when the next shocking image would be shown next.

It was extraordinary - and seemingly inexplicable.

But it was to be another 15 years before anyone else took Dr Hartwell's
work further when Dean Radin, a researcher working in America,
connected
people up to a machine that measured their skin's resistance to
electricity. This is known to fluctuate in tandem with our moods -
indeed,
it's this principle that underlies many lie detectors.

Radin repeated Dr Hartwell's 'image response' experiments while
measuring
skin resistance. Again, people began reacting a few seconds before they
were shown the provocative pictures. This was clearly impossible, or so
he
thought, so he kept on repeating the experiments. And he kept getting
the
same results.

'I didn't believe it either,' says Prof Bierman. 'So I also repeated
the
experiment myself and got the same results. I was shocked. After this I
started to think more deeply about the nature of time.' To make matters
even more intriguing, Prof Bierman says that other mainstream labs have
now produced similar results but are yet to go public.

'They don't want to be ridiculed so they won't release their findings,'
he
says. 'So I'm trying to persuade all of them to release their results
at
the same time. That would at least spread the ridicule a little more
thinly!' If Prof Bierman is right, though, then the experiments are no
laughing matter.

They might help provide a solid scientific grounding for such strange
phenomena as 'deja vu', intuition and a host of other curiosities that
we
have all experienced from time to time.

They may also open up a far more interesting possibility - that one day
we
might be able to enhance psychic powers using machines that can 'tune
in'
to our subconscious mind, machines like the little black box in
Edinburgh.

Just as we have built mechanical engines to replace muscle power, could
we
one day build a device to enhance and interpret our hidden psychic
abilities?

Dr Nelson is optimistic - but not for the short term. 'We may be able
to
predict that a major world dvent is going to happen. But we won't know
exactly what will happen or where it's going to happen,' he says.

'Put it this way - we haven't yet got a machine we could sell to the
CIA.'

But for Dr Nelson, talk of such psychic machines - with the potential
to
detect global catastrophes or terrorist outrages - is of far less
importance than the implications of his work in terms of the human
race.

For what his experiments appear to demonstrate is that while we may all
operate as individuals, we also appear to share something far, far
greater
- a global consciousness. Some might call it the mind of God.

'We're taught to be individualistic monsters,' he says. 'We're driven
by
society to separate ourselves from each other. That's not right.

We may be connected together far more intimately than we realise.'

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On the Net:

Global Consciousness Project<
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Princeton University<
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    Posted: April 7, 2005, 11:56 am - IP Logged

    Sheeze.  Too much trouble to edit all those line feeds into readable form.  Take it or leave it, amigos, just the way it is.

    Jack

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      I think there has been a thread on this subject earlier in the mystical forum.

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        Posted: April 7, 2005, 12:57 pm - IP Logged

        It was already posted here:

        http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/107511

        (A quick search on black box showed me the link instantly.)

         

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          Guess this one will fade quietly into oblivion, then.

          Ah well

          Jack

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            Jack,

            No worries - actually, this allows people to continue to comment on the subject, if there's more to say.

             

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              Before I retired, I work for a company that would guarantee one of the holidays its employee could take off was their birthday.  My is in April, so I alway took the whole week off and I noticed almost every year during that week, I would turn on my TV and there was an unbelievable dvent had happen that got the attention of the whole world.  Since then I have alway expected something of that type to happen the second or third week of April.  I'll be watching the next two weeks to see what it is this year.

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                Quote: Originally posted by RJOh on April 7, 2005

                Before I retired, I work for a company that would guarantee one of the holidays its employee could take off was their birthday.  My is in April, so I alway took the whole week off and I noticed almost every year during that week, I would turn on my TV and there was an unbelievable dvent had happen that got the attention of the whole world.  Since then I have alway expected something of that type to happen the second or third week of April.  I'll be watching the next two weeks to see what it is this year.

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                Do you have a list of which world dvents which has happened in the past during your holidays?
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                  I sort of hope there will be more discussion on this issue.  I don't even know whether the article is true, or something someone concocted and posted on the web.

                  But I  do see the numbers behaving in non-random ways, ways I don't know where to begin to understand.  I think something is influencing them to behave in those ways, as has been discussed on another thread that's running right now.

                  Maybe it's the stars, but I have a difficult time believing it.  Maybe it's moon phases, which might be easier to believe if I could see a pattern that followed moon phases.  I've intended to try to chase that down, but haven't yet done so..... should be easy enough to take a series of draws and compare them to phases of the moon.

                  Maybe it's sunspots, maybe magnetic fields of the earth, as someone's suggested on the other thread.  Maybe it's mass consciousness, maybe the energy of dvents in the affairs of men.  (I have difficulties believing that, also, because we're so damned small... microscopic, biomass-wise, every other wise).  Maybe the same energies or influences these machines are detecting are the same ones as influence the lotteries, affairs of men, other things we don't even know enough to detect.

                  But I enjoy reading ideas about what it might be, provided it's actually something.

                  Jack