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Posted: April 12, 2005, 7:42 pm - IP Logged

I recently wrote the Hoosier Lottery with the following comments:                                   


 

I noticed something when I checked my PowerBall tickets today. At the top of each ticket is printed the following message:

 

"Remember draw time is now 9:59 PM EST! Sales cut off is one hour before the drawing."

 

As far back as I can remember, sales cutoff has always been one half-hour prior to the drawing. When did this change take place, and when did you announce it? 

 

IC 4-30-3-5, Sec. 5 states, "The commission shall make a continuous study of the following:

 

(1) The lottery, in order to ascertain any amendments necessary to this article or to rules adopted under this article that could prdvent any abuses in the administration of the lottery.

 

(2) The operation and administration of similar lottery laws in other states and of federal laws that may affect the lottery.

 

(3) The reaction of the public to existing and potential features of the lottery.

 

The Hoosier Lottery has a nasty habit of ignoring the laws which govern its operation. This fits perfectly into the RNG scam, given that you've mandated no published liability limits. How is it possible that Indiana is the ONLY state lottery that actively tracks player selections prior to each drawing? All other state lotteries have liability limits in place, so I'm curious; what, exactly, did your study reveal, and how did the public react to the results?

 

Jim 

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Of course, they haven't bothered to respond, and I doubt that they will. On the other hand, they don't deny breaking the law.

Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

Jim

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    Posted: April 12, 2005, 8:28 pm - IP Logged

    Maybe you guys should write a petition to have me as the Hoosier Lottery director. I could clean up the joint real fine. And of course, bring back the balls. In fact, that would be the new slogan "The Indiana State Lottery: We Got Balls!"

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      Posted: April 13, 2005, 12:52 am - IP Logged
      Quote: Originally posted by JimmySand9 on April 12, 2005

      Maybe you guys should write a petition to have me as the Hoosier Lottery director. I could clean up the joint real fine. And of course, bring back the balls. In fact, that would be the new slogan "The Indiana State Lottery: We Got Balls!"






      THANKS JimmySand9:



      YOU..........................would make a great LD...................cause somebody,

      got the BALL'sssss..and " The Indiana State Lottery" got the MONEY$$$$



      LOL



      PSYKOMO



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        Posted: April 13, 2005, 6:17 am - IP Logged

        we want balls,we need balls,gotta have them balls

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          Posted: April 13, 2005, 7:02 pm - IP Logged

          Following is the reply I received from the Hoosier Lottery's legal counsel:

           


          Dear Mr. Grimes,

           

          Thank you for your e-mail in which you raised questions about the Powerball game and lottery statutes. 

           

          First, let me assure you that the Hoosier Lottery does not ignore the statutes that govern its operations.  This organization is committed to conducting the best lottery games available and depends upon the confidence of the public in the integrity of those games for its success.  We have implemented and improved our systems to prdvent future security breaches. 

           

          Be advised that the sales cut off for Powerball has NEVER been ½ hour before the drawing.  Rather, since at least 1996 Powerball sales have been cut off at one hour before the Powerball drawing.  Prior to that year, the cut off period may have been even longer.  You may have the Powerball cut off confused with other drawings that have sales cut offs that are closer to the drawing. 

           

          The Lottery's Powerball rules establish that the director has the discretion to determine when to cut off sales.  The one hour Powerball cut off decision was made in conjunction with the Multi State Lottery (MUSL) which is governed by a board made up of the lottery directors from the lotteries participating in the Powerball game.  MUSL conducts the Powerball drawings in Iowa. 

           

          The Lottery has announced cut off times in various publications, on the Lottery's web site, in press releases, and, as you know, on occasional top-of-ticket messages.

           

          I am confused by the second part of your e-mail where you have quoted a statute and referred to the "RNG scam," "liability limits" and "actively" tracking "player selections."  I do not know what the term "RNG" means.  Similarly, the Lottery has published certain "liability limits" in its rules limiting certain repeated plays in Daily 3 and Daily 4 games.  I am not, however, sure if that is what you are referring to.  Similarly, EVERY state tracks player selections in a computer database prior to a drawing.  If they did not, they would not know when there was a winning ticket. 

           

          Finally, the Lottery seeks public comment on its activities and is always interested in feedback from our players. 

           

          If you could clarify your concerns, I would be happy to try and address them.

           

          Janna J. Shisler
          General Counsel
          Hoosier Lottery

           

          I should point out that I no longer play any Hoosier Lottery games, but only PowerBall, since it's drawn in Iowa and uncontaminated by the hands of the Hoosier Lottery. In the past, however, the message appearing at the top of every online ticket sold was the same one, regardless of the game. These messages are used to promote new games, to announce upcoming dvents or to distribute Amber Alerts across the state. In this case, it appears the message applies only to the PowerBall game. My apologies for the error.

          Come, Pinky; we must prepare for tomorrow night...

          Jim

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            Posted: April 13, 2005, 7:06 pm - IP Logged

            do you pick your own numbers for poewrball. if not,m the hoosier lottery may still be able to mess with them.

            I've redone my website.  Go to www.dr-ew.com.  I kept a lot of the old stuff, and I've added some new stuff.  Look for more new stuff in the coming weeks.

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              Posted: April 14, 2005, 6:43 am - IP Logged

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                Posted: April 14, 2005, 6:46 am - IP Logged

                in theory they could make it so every quick pick generates the same set of numbers. that way, if that set comes up, the winners get next to nothing.

                I've redone my website.  Go to www.dr-ew.com.  I kept a lot of the old stuff, and I've added some new stuff.  Look for more new stuff in the coming weeks.

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                  Posted: May 14, 2005, 1:35 am - IP Logged

                  if that happens anywhere indiana would be the first place that would come to mind....