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# Side Stepping...

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Mid-Missouri
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 Posted: July 31, 2005, 12:59 pm - IP Logged

After the double triple 0's were drawn in MO the other night. I sent this e-mail. The woman totally side-stepped the second question all together. I'm not done yet though. I'm sending a reply to the answer she sent getting a little more specific. Last year we had ball drawn games. I am going to ask her how much ticket sales have dropped off on the Pick 3 game since July of last year. I will have to have them exclude the midday drawing since it didn't exist last year but I sure they would try to add that money in if I didn't specify. Here is the original e-mail I sent.

My Message

How do you have boxed winners on a double triple evening?

30 boxed winners in the eve and 16 in the midday. Front Pair and Back
Pair have to be straights too. So where did the boxed winners come
from?

P.S. Also, I'm curious to see how much money the MO Lottery has lost since
going computerized, where would I find that information?

Missouri Lottery's response.

Dear Bryan,

Thank you for your interest in the Missouri Lottery and for taking the

We appreciate you pointing out the technical error on our Web-site, our
Web-Master has corrected that.  You are correct, you can only have a
straight with triple digits, not a box.

Pick 3 has a designed payout of 60%.  Since computerized draws, the
payouts have been approximately 60%.  This is how is it broken down.

The odds of winning on a straight wager are 1 in 1000.  The straight
pays out \$600.  600 divided by 1000 equals 60%.

The odds of winning on a 6-way box wager are 1 in 167.  The 6-way box
wager pays out \$100.  100 divided by 167 equals 59.88%.

The odds of winning on a 3-way box wager are 1 in 333.  The 3-way box
wager pays out \$200.  200 divided by 333 equals 60.06%.

The odds of winning on a front pair or back pair wager are 1 in 100.
The front pair/back pair pays out \$60. 60 divided by 100 equals 60%.

The overall payout on Pick 3 usually comes in at a tenth of a percent
above or below 60% each year.

I hope you find this information helpful.  Thanks again for your
interest in the Missouri Lottery.

Sincerely,

Linda Harvey
Customer Care Unit

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New Jersey
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 Posted: July 31, 2005, 6:26 pm - IP Logged

Interesting.  Thanks for posting, please let us know how your follow-up goes.

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Mid-Missouri
United States
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 Posted: August 3, 2005, 6:29 pm - IP Logged

Hey Todd,

My second e-mail was answered by the same woman who side-stepped the original question. She was tickled to say they are not losing money they have a 13.3% increase in profits....And then she goes on to say that includes midday sales which I ask her not to tally into the final equation but she did anyway and they also included the money supposedly saved by going computerized. After all that... I'm thinking you added a whole other drawing and 13.3% increase is the best they can do??? She made the mistake of adding charts to the message. Best I can tell they are now losing \$200,000 to \$300,000 a night in the evening drawing compared  what sold before the computerized sales and the midday game. She sent her charts in pdf. If you would like to see them let me know and I will send them your way.

Best of Luck All,

Bryan  :)

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