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# Vtrac Chart

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I was looking at http://www.compulotto.com/vtracdefinition.htm trying to understand how vtrac works.  I understand the concept, but I'm not sure how the person came up with the Vtrac Chart that shows current top movements for each vtrac (V1-V5) for each Position (P1-P3).  Can anyone explain how he came up with the number for each position.

#### Example:  Draw was 792

To get the vtrac look at each digit individually from the chart above to get the following:

 7 = V3 9 = V5 2 = V3

542132325

314135132

152245154

352324352

### V5

431413134

To get your vtracs for the next day take the chart above and intersect the V = vtrac column with the P = position row.

Carrie

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Don't know how he came up with the numbers for each position--All I know is that is works.

If anyone knows where I can get a comlet vtrac chart --please pm it to me or post it here.

brownsville
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my state had 423 for a vtrac and i see324 so where would i intersect at?

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0+5=5 thus Vtrac1= 0 & 5

1+5=6 thus Vtrac2= 1 & 6

2+5=7 thus Vtrac3= 2 & 7

3+5=8 thus Vtrac4= 3 & 8

4+5=9 thus Vtrac5= 4 & 9

Now, as I understand it, it is of course much easier to track 5 numbers instead of 10.

Think Base 5 instead of Base 10 for number counting purposes.

Again, this is merely my opinion and observations. I could be wrong, I strongly suggest you do a simple search both here on Lottery Post as well as over at Compulotto's site for more information as to how to make use of VTracs and the suggested method of making it work for you.

Sir Metro

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I understand how vtrac works, I'm getting 2 numbers right, but I keep coming up short on one number. Maybe I need to start tracking the vtrac positions, but I'm not sure how to do that.  I think chart above was trying to do.. I'm missing something some where....

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Vtracs that I use are taken from an Excel file(s) from a Yahoo Lottery Group.  E-Lottery Universe

As far as I know you can still download the Excel files.  If you can't let me know and I will send you a copy.  I believe there are 4 or 5 different Excel files from individual states.  Use the Georgia file if possible.

If you can use Excel you will get a better understanding of Vtracs.

The basic concept with vtracs

Vtrac      Digit Conversion

1      =          0    &    5

2     =          1    &    6

3      =          2    &    7

4      =          3    &    8

5      =          4    &    9

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As Sirmetro has explained, you reduce 10 digits down to 5.

The key with vtrac is MOVEMENT.  Movement of vtracs from drawing to drawing.

For example:

Lets say the last 2 drawings in your state's Pick 3  numbers were  1 7 4 on Sunday and 862 on Monday.

Convert these to Vtracs and you get:  (see chart above)

2 3 5  (Sunday)

4 2 3  (Monday)

Looking at the example above you see the first position vtrac 2 on Sunday and vtrac 4 on Monday.

The movement is 2  (4 - 2 = 2)

The Key is to see look at your states past 100 to 200 past drawings and see the top movements for each vtrac.

Again, looking at the example above.

Vtrac 235

You want to see the top movements of vtrac 2  (1st position)

vtrac 3  (2nd Position)

vtrac 5  (3rd position)

Like I said earlier.  If you know how to use Excel just download the file(s) from Yahoo and you will get the basic idea of how vtrac works.

The Vtrac system I use is a little different.  My movements are (-) and (+).  So using the example from above.  4 -  2 = 2  I use a movement of -2 instead of 2.  This is what I used to Pick Minnesota's Pick 3 number last month for Atomic Dog.  Each day I selected 8 straight combinations for 30 days.  I kept using the top movement from each vtracs position.

As someone posted at Lotterpost,  this is only the tip of the iceburg.

Once you get the idea of how vtracs work.  Always look for repeating vtracs from 1 of the 3 positions of the previous drawing.  Look for more double vtracs (223,  344 etc)

Good Luck!!

wsls

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Current for 8/22/01
P1    P2  P3
V1 542 132 325
V2 314 135 132
V3 152 245 154
V4 352 324 352
V5 431 413 134

This is his top movement chart by position.

All the numbers in the chart above are vtracs.

1. Let's take an example.  Say last night's number was 7 5 4.  Converting the 754 to vtrac = 315

Now we look at the vtrac 3 (V3) and look at the chart above for postition 1 (P1).

V3 or vtrac 3 in position 1 (P1) is telling us that the top 3 vtracs to play in the next drawing for Position 1 are 1, 5, and 2

2. Let's look at the 2nd positon.  Last night's position 2 vtrac was "1"

Look at V1 (vtrac1) and then go over to P2 (Position 2) and you see the top 3 vtracs for the next drawing for position 2 are 1, 3, and 2

3.  Look at last night's 3rd position vtrac.  You see it is a "5".

Look at V5 (vtrac 5) and then go over to P3 (Position 3) and you see the top 3 vtracs for Position3 are the 1, 3, and 4.

Let's put this all together now for the next drawing.

Position 1 - Top 3 Vtracs  1 5 2

Position 2 - Top 3 Vtracs  1 3 2

Position 3 - Top 3 Vtracs  1 3 4

So the top 3 vtracs for each position are 1 1 1 (This was a bad example!!)

Next you convert the vtrac 1 1 1 to regular digits.

Vtrac 1 =  digits 0 and 5

0  0  0

5  5  5

Combinations:

000  005  050  055

500  505  550  555

If you play the top vtrac in each position you end up with 8 combinations.

If you play the top  2 vtracs you end up with 64 combinations

If you play the top 3 as in the chart above you would play 216 combinations.

My pocketbook dictates 8 combinations.

Good Luck!!

wsls

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can you send me a copy?

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can you post the excel chart here for us to download? thanks wnsm

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If you are not registered follow the registration process. Free

Once you are finished the registration process:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eLotteryUniverse/files/

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i got 3 numbers 3 different times so which one do i use for todays drawing?

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diamondjaxs,

Did you adjust the movement charts according to your states Pick 3?

As I explained to ccbrown.  You should enter about 200 past drawing up to the end of June.  Then adjust your movement charts.  Then enter the remaining drawings to the current day.  So what you want to look for in the past 30 drawings is how your movement chart is performing.

The 3 numbers you get are the TOP 3 vtracs for each position based on the last drawing.  So you should have 3 sets of 3 numbers.  You need to convert these numbers to regular digits.

VTRAC          DIGITS

1  =              0    5

2  =              1    6

3  =              2    7

4  =              3      8

5  =              4    9

The first vtrac in each of the 3 vtrac combinations are normally your top vtracs for the next drawing.

For example:

If your 3 Vtrac combinations are  135    245    321

Look at the 1st position in each of the 3 combinations.  In this example you have 1 2 3.  Convert these vtrac to digits (1 = 0 & 5, 2 = 1 & 6, 3 = 2 & 7)

So your digits combinations to play in the next drawing is

0    1  2

5    6  7

012  017  062  067  512  517  562  567

This gives you 8 combinations.

If you use all 9 of the 3 digit combinations you would end up with 216 combinations to play.

If you use the 1st 2 of each of the 3 combiantions.  You would be playing 64 combinations.

This is whay you really need to look at your movement charts.

Good Luck!!

wsls

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Best explanation of movement yet

Thanks Winsum

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Don't know how he came up with the numbers for each position--All I know is that is works.

If anyone knows where I can get a comlet vtrac chart --please pm it to me or post it here.

Let me be the first to express my ignorance.

What is a comlet VTRAC chart?

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diamondjaxs,

Did you adjust the movement charts according to your states Pick 3?

As I explained to ccbrown.  You should enter about 200 past drawing up to the end of June.  Then adjust your movement charts.  Then enter the remaining drawings to the current day.  So what you want to look for in the past 30 drawings is how your movement chart is performing.

The 3 numbers you get are the TOP 3 vtracs for each position based on the last drawing.  So you should have 3 sets of 3 numbers.  You need to convert these numbers to regular digits.

VTRAC          DIGITS

1  =              0    5

2  =              1    6

3  =              2    7

4  =              3      8

5  =              4    9

The first vtrac in each of the 3 vtrac combinations are normally your top vtracs for the next drawing.

For example:

If your 3 Vtrac combinations are  135    245    321

Look at the 1st position in each of the 3 combinations.  In this example you have 1 2 3.  Convert these vtrac to digits (1 = 0 & 5, 2 = 1 & 6, 3 = 2 & 7)

So your digits combinations to play in the next drawing is

0    1  2

5    6  7

012  017  062  067  512  517  562  567

This gives you 8 combinations.

If you use all 9 of the 3 digit combinations you would end up with 216 combinations to play.

If you use the 1st 2 of each of the 3 combiantions.  You would be playing 64 combinations.

This is whay you really need to look at your movement charts.

Good Luck!!

wsls

As one of those people who don't have excel, is there any way for someone to get the set-up (formulas etc) for the excel spreadsheet so that they can make a spreadsheet from them in a different spreadsheeet program (other than excel?) Not every one has excel, or a program that will convert it to their own spreadsheet.....and I really don't want to be spending hundreds of dollars for Excel, just to run one spreadsheet.

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